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fansincemagic
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| 2019 wrote: | | cital wrote: | I still say we go all in for Kyrie and Davis this summer... They are the youngest out of the free agents and can play together for a long time. Get a deal in place for Davis at the draft (with an agreement that the deal is made official 1 week into free agency), then sign Kyrie. We would be able to keep Bullock's cap hold as well... I know people are against it, but I offer Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, and all 4 first round picks (the deal works because of the cap space remaining after signing Kyrie and assuming our pick is going out in the deal). The difference between this trade and the Brooklyn trade is that Davis is still very young, Brooklyn was trading for a bunch of guys exiting their prime. This deal would also almost guarantee us getting another all-star to sign (Kyrie) knowing they would be playing with both LeBron and Davis long term... We would still have Bullock, Hart, Wagner, and Bonga, plus the Room Exception, and we would also still have a first round pick every other year...
Kyrie/Bonga
Bullock/Hart
LeBron
Davis
Room Exception/Wagner
There is no doubt in my mind that team is a true championship contender... You know we would get a very solid player with the room exception and even guys coming for the minimum that would want to play on that team. |
NO had their chance to get that package.. so long as Paul keeps the pressure on NO and every other team that AD is 100% walking, our new offer should not include Kuzma. |
It's somewhere in the middle. Signing Kyrie kills NY and Boston's plans, and I expect BI and Kuz to raise their value by the end of the year. NO gets one of them, Ball, Hart, the 1st and a future 1st. Keep in mind Javale also has a low cap hold as well, Rondo may take the room ex, Mbah a Moute the minimum
Kyrie 24/Rondo 24
Ingram 34/Kyrie 10/Bullock 4
Bullock 24/James 10/Mbah a Moute 14
James 24/Davis 10/Wagner 14
Davis 24/McGee 24 |
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sogood.
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | Quote: | Anthony Davis will sit tonight’s back to back against the Los Angeles Lakers due to rest.
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I think this is actually bad for us. They've been playing better when he's been out. |
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cital
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | cital wrote: | I still say we go all in for Kyrie and Davis this summer... They are the youngest out of the free agents and can play together for a long time. Get a deal in place for Davis at the draft (with an agreement that the deal is made official 1 week into free agency), then sign Kyrie. We would be able to keep Bullock's cap hold as well... I know people are against it, but I offer Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, and all 4 first round picks (the deal works because of the cap space remaining after signing Kyrie and assuming our pick is going out in the deal). The difference between this trade and the Brooklyn trade is that Davis is still very young, Brooklyn was trading for a bunch of guys exiting their prime. This deal would also almost guarantee us getting another all-star to sign (Kyrie) knowing they would be playing with both LeBron and Davis long term... We would still have Bullock, Hart, Wagner, and Bonga, plus the Room Exception, and we would also still have a first round pick every other year...
Kyrie/Bonga
Bullock/Hart
LeBron
Davis
Room Exception/Wagner
There is no doubt in my mind that team is a true championship contender... You know we would get a very solid player with the room exception and even guys coming for the minimum that would want to play on that team. |
NO had their chance to get that package.. so long as Paul keeps the pressure on NO and every other team that AD is 100% walking, our new offer should not include Kuzma. |
It's somewhere in the middle. Signing Kyrie kills NY and Boston's plans, and I expect BI and Kuz to raise their value by the end of the year. NO gets one of them, Ball, Hart, the 1st and a future 1st. Keep in mind Javale also has a low cap hold as well, Rondo may take the room ex, Mbah a Moute the minimum
Kyrie 24/Rondo 24
Ingram 34/Kyrie 10/Bullock 4
Bullock 24/James 10/Mbah a Moute 14
James 24/Davis 10/Wagner 14
Davis 24/McGee 24 |
Ball AND Ingram have to BOTH be in the trade to make it work capwise with signing a max free agent prior to the trade... Kuzma is the one that "could" be held out... BUT, no one is going to do the Lakers any favors, and if we don't get a trade done we are wasting another year of LeBron... I offer all 3 plus the 4 picks and GET IT DONE!
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| The Pelicans under Demps would have had Anthony Davis play 48M in this game so he could see his favorite boy toy try to take it to the Lakers. |
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| hydrohead wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Draymond green a clutch brother now |
and a spartan? magic and lebron will be at his doorstep at 9:01 |
And he will say “dudes, I am still under contract”.
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| governator wrote: | | Bron Dray AD? How’s that possible? I wanna keep BI |
It isn’t possible
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| I don’t mind Draymond Green and Bradley Beal summer |
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fansincemagic
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| cital wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | cital wrote: | I still say we go all in for Kyrie and Davis this summer... They are the youngest out of the free agents and can play together for a long time. Get a deal in place for Davis at the draft (with an agreement that the deal is made official 1 week into free agency), then sign Kyrie. We would be able to keep Bullock's cap hold as well... I know people are against it, but I offer Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, and all 4 first round picks (the deal works because of the cap space remaining after signing Kyrie and assuming our pick is going out in the deal). The difference between this trade and the Brooklyn trade is that Davis is still very young, Brooklyn was trading for a bunch of guys exiting their prime. This deal would also almost guarantee us getting another all-star to sign (Kyrie) knowing they would be playing with both LeBron and Davis long term... We would still have Bullock, Hart, Wagner, and Bonga, plus the Room Exception, and we would also still have a first round pick every other year...
Kyrie/Bonga
Bullock/Hart
LeBron
Davis
Room Exception/Wagner
There is no doubt in my mind that team is a true championship contender... You know we would get a very solid player with the room exception and even guys coming for the minimum that would want to play on that team. |
NO had their chance to get that package.. so long as Paul keeps the pressure on NO and every other team that AD is 100% walking, our new offer should not include Kuzma. |
It's somewhere in the middle. Signing Kyrie kills NY and Boston's plans, and I expect BI and Kuz to raise their value by the end of the year. NO gets one of them, Ball, Hart, the 1st and a future 1st. Keep in mind Javale also has a low cap hold as well, Rondo may take the room ex, Mbah a Moute the minimum
Kyrie 24/Rondo 24
Ingram 34/Kyrie 10/Bullock 4
Bullock 24/James 10/Mbah a Moute 14
James 24/Davis 10/Wagner 14
Davis 24/McGee 24 |
Ball AND Ingram have to BOTH be in the trade to make it work capwise with signing a max free agent prior to the trade... Kuzma is the one that "could" be held out... BUT, no one is going to do the Lakers any favors, and if we don't get a trade done we are wasting another year of LeBron... I offer all 3 plus the 4 picks and GET IT DONE! |
I figured they can sign and trade KCP or Lance, but I'm not sure if they can if they have to renounce them. I'm fine with Kuzma but you would have to get a solid defensive 2/3 with the room x. |
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cital
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | cital wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | cital wrote: | I still say we go all in for Kyrie and Davis this summer... They are the youngest out of the free agents and can play together for a long time. Get a deal in place for Davis at the draft (with an agreement that the deal is made official 1 week into free agency), then sign Kyrie. We would be able to keep Bullock's cap hold as well... I know people are against it, but I offer Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, and all 4 first round picks (the deal works because of the cap space remaining after signing Kyrie and assuming our pick is going out in the deal). The difference between this trade and the Brooklyn trade is that Davis is still very young, Brooklyn was trading for a bunch of guys exiting their prime. This deal would also almost guarantee us getting another all-star to sign (Kyrie) knowing they would be playing with both LeBron and Davis long term... We would still have Bullock, Hart, Wagner, and Bonga, plus the Room Exception, and we would also still have a first round pick every other year...
Kyrie/Bonga
Bullock/Hart
LeBron
Davis
Room Exception/Wagner
There is no doubt in my mind that team is a true championship contender... You know we would get a very solid player with the room exception and even guys coming for the minimum that would want to play on that team. |
NO had their chance to get that package.. so long as Paul keeps the pressure on NO and every other team that AD is 100% walking, our new offer should not include Kuzma. |
It's somewhere in the middle. Signing Kyrie kills NY and Boston's plans, and I expect BI and Kuz to raise their value by the end of the year. NO gets one of them, Ball, Hart, the 1st and a future 1st. Keep in mind Javale also has a low cap hold as well, Rondo may take the room ex, Mbah a Moute the minimum
Kyrie 24/Rondo 24
Ingram 34/Kyrie 10/Bullock 4
Bullock 24/James 10/Mbah a Moute 14
James 24/Davis 10/Wagner 14
Davis 24/McGee 24 |
Ball AND Ingram have to BOTH be in the trade to make it work capwise with signing a max free agent prior to the trade... Kuzma is the one that "could" be held out... BUT, no one is going to do the Lakers any favors, and if we don't get a trade done we are wasting another year of LeBron... I offer all 3 plus the 4 picks and GET IT DONE! |
I figured they can sign and trade KCP or Lance, but I'm not sure if they can if they have to renounce them. I'm fine with Kuzma but you would have to get a solid defensive 2/3 with the room x. |
They would all have to be renounced except for Bullock, who we would want to keep |
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Maybe Lakers should go after this Julius Randle fellow in free agency if they’re going to miss out on Durant, Kyrie, Leonard, Klay. Forget Butler too, Randle > Butler 
Then trade for D’Angelo Russell. 😏
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Maybe Lakers should go after this Julius Randle fellow in free agency if they’re going to miss out on Durant, Kyrie, Leonard, Klay. Forget Butler too, Randle > Butler
Then trade for D’Angelo Russell. 😏 |
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| We don’t need Randle unfortunately. We have Lebron who is worlds better. Too bad Randle isn’t a true center. He’s just not. They are both a wash on defense. |
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So for some of you... the solution is to trade away Ingram/Kuzma/Ball/Hart and our draft picks... so we can combine AD and LBJ with washed up veterans like we had tonight.
SMH... |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | So for some of you... the solution is to trade away Ingram/Kuzma/Ball/Hart and our draft picks... so we can combine AD and LBJ with washed up veterans like we had tonight.
SMH... |
Same bs other day |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | We don’t need Randle unfortunately. We have Lebron who is worlds better. Too bad Randle isn’t a true center. He’s just not. They are both a wash on defense. |
I’d rather have Randle, Dlo, Bryant and Zubac. We’d be a playoff team. |
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Put the people in charge of our drafts... in charge of the entire team.
We cannot afford to get rid of more young assets for more mediocre veterans. |
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| No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
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| scooterp10 wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | We don’t need Randle unfortunately. We have Lebron who is worlds better. Too bad Randle isn’t a true center. He’s just not. They are both a wash on defense. |
I’d rather have Randle, Dlo, Bryant and Zubac. We’d be a playoff team. |
Not really. But it would be fun I suppose.
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
we might get Draymond Green now that he is part of LeBron’s family. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
we might get Draymond Green now that he is part of LeBron’s family. |
He sucks and he's not a FA until next year. |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
we might get Draymond Green now that he is part of LeBron’s family. |
He sucks and he's not a FA until next year. |
We could always trade for him if Durant heads to the Clippers or Knicks. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
we might get Draymond Green now that he is part of LeBron’s family. |
He sucks and he's not a FA until next year. |
We could always trade for him if Durant heads to the Clippers or Knicks. |
Why you trading for that trash? 24 mins today and 4/4/3 and will be 30 years old son |
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just throwing some mud against the wall here....let's say we finish this season 42-40 and miss the playoffs. Lonzo never returns and everything pretty much remains as it is now to finish the season.
Summer happens, and the carousel takes place as popular opinion expects...Kawhi bounces to Clippers, Durant and Kyrie go to NYC. etc., etc....and even AD ends up in Boston. No Tier 1 or Tier 2 FA's join the Lakers.
How many games do you think we would win next year with the same starting lineup.....Ball, Ingram, Lebron, Kuzma, and McGee? How about with an A+ bench? I am talking about using the cap money on really good bench role players on 2-3 year deals. Players like Bullock....and I do not want to start naming names because of different opinions will just cause debate on those players....but 4-5 really good 25-30 year old role players on the bench....on contracts that are attractive enough to move if an opportunity presents itself later. No Moz/Deng crap...or even overpaying KCP for one year stuff.
I am guessing with all the other changes....GSW losing Durant and aging....Houston aging (Paul), etc., combined with our young guys improving we would be looking at 45-52 wins? Also, very well positioned to make a trade if a star is made available without depleting our entire roster. If you take away the fact that Lebron and Klutch would likely rebel against such a plan, are we not somewhat similar to the Iggy lead Warriors? It was Iggy....some young developing guys with star potential, and an excellent bench in those pre 73 win years.
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | No one is coming to this dumpster fire anyways. |
we might get Draymond Green now that he is part of LeBron’s family. |
He sucks and he's not a FA until next year. |
We could always trade for him if Durant heads to the Clippers or Knicks. |
Why you trading for that trash? 24 mins today and 4/4/3 and will be 30 years old son |
Ralph Mason Jr on twitter proposed a KCP and a 2nd round pick for Green, I would definitely do it, with Dray on the Lakers he wouldn’t worry about 3-4 scorers getting the buck of the shots and he can end up being our Ron Artest. |
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