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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject:

The only thing that Marcellus Wiley has ever been right about is saying that Kershaw can't control himself to repeat his mechanics the same way in the postseason. He simply doesn't execute pitches, and this was the case even when he actually had great stuff. Maybe he's too amped up, but whatever it is, he simply can't execute under the pressure of postseason baseball like you would expect such a great regular season performer to do. His defenders have often pointed out that he has thrown some great games in the postseason. Well, yeah, I would freaking hope that a player of his talent would have some of those LOL. It's that the implosions are like nothing I've ever seen from, and I'll say it again, such a legendarily great regular season athlete, in any sport.

Yes, Roberts probably shouldn't have had him in the 8th inning. But back-to-back homers on back-to-back pitches? It's like a Shakespearean tragedy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
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At some point, batting average does count for something.

U know who constantly produced for the Nationals this series?

Turner - .298
Soto - .282
Rendon - .319
Kendrick - .344

I know this team devalues batting avg in favor of ops, but somehow it doesn't translate to the playoffs.

We can't get hits and we're constantly striking out


We’re probably going to go hard for Rendon this offseason now.


you and every team that wants/needs a big bat.....he is the only real difference maker bat on the market, and he is going to get overpaid big time.


Dodgers need to pay the penance for this playoff catastrophe.


We don't need bats, we need a great set up man and closer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:04 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
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At some point, batting average does count for something.

U know who constantly produced for the Nationals this series?

Turner - .298
Soto - .282
Rendon - .319
Kendrick - .344

I know this team devalues batting avg in favor of ops, but somehow it doesn't translate to the playoffs.

We can't get hits and we're constantly striking out


We’re probably going to go hard for Rendon this offseason now.


you and every team that wants/needs a big bat.....he is the only real difference maker bat on the market, and he is going to get overpaid big time.


Dodgers need to pay the penance for this playoff catastrophe.


yeah, my assumption is your farm system is stocked well, and you will find more value in the trade market.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject:

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We don't need bats, we need a great set up man and closer.


Yet our bats were quiet this year n pretty much every playoffs
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject:

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The only thing that Marcellus Wiley has ever been right about is saying that Kershaw can't control himself to repeat his mechanics the same way in the postseason. He simply doesn't execute pitches, and this was the case even when he actually had great stuff. Maybe he's too amped up, but whatever it is, he simply can't execute under the pressure of postseason baseball like you would expect such a great regular season performer to do. His defenders have often pointed out that he has thrown some great games in the postseason. Well, yeah, I would freaking hope that a player of his talent would have some of those LOL. It's that the implosions are like nothing I've ever seen from, and I'll say it again, such a legendarily great regular season athlete, in any sport.

Yes, Roberts probably shouldn't have had him in the 8th inning. But back-to-back homers on back-to-back pitches? It's like a Shakespearean tragedy.



I had the privilege to see Koufax pitch with my dad in the 60s & all these comparisons with Koufax are completely off the table. Kerhsaw isnt' even in the same universe with #32. Koufax as we all know excelled in the playoffs not implode.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject:

Do we really have to use Pollock and Kelly next season? What a bust last year’s free agency was for us.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject:

Dodgers still have 2 years of the Clayton Kershaw experience left....so....they aren't gonna be able to get rid of him.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:08 pm    Post subject:

Dodgers are just not constructed well for the playoffs... We only have one Ace, a horrid bullpen & hitters that are not disciplined.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:08 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
The only thing that Marcellus Wiley has ever been right about is saying that Kershaw can't control himself to repeat his mechanics the same way in the postseason. He simply doesn't execute pitches, and this was the case even when he actually had great stuff. Maybe he's too amped up, but whatever it is, he simply can't execute under the pressure of postseason baseball like you would expect such a great regular season performer to do. His defenders have often pointed out that he has thrown some great games in the postseason. Well, yeah, I would freaking hope that a player of his talent would have some of those LOL. It's that the implosions are like nothing I've ever seen from, and I'll say it again, such a legendarily great regular season athlete, in any sport.

Yes, Roberts probably shouldn't have had him in the 8th inning. But back-to-back homers on back-to-back pitches? It's like a Shakespearean tragedy.



I had the privilege to see Koufax pitch with my dad in the 60s & all these comparisons with Koufax are completely off the table. Kerhsaw isnt' even in the same universe with #32. Koufax as we all know excelled in the playoffs not implode.


I think that was already established years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject:

Roberts Resume

2017:
Not pulling Kershaw after he got rocked for 4 runs in game 5
Not pulling Darvish after he looked REALLY shaky.

2018:
Yanking Hill too early game 4 through his lack of communication.
Batting Kike 3rd in the elimination game.

2019:
Keeping Kershaw in after he allowed a HR
Let Joe (bleep) Kelly lose the entire series.

Sprinkled between all this are horrendous lineups and bullpen moves. I'm probably missing a ton of other (bleep).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Dodgers are just not constructed well for the playoffs... We only have one Ace, a horrid bullpen & hitters that are not disciplined.


Ryu and Buehler both pitched great in this series. Both were ace level. But I don’t see us paying Ryu what he’s gonna get on the open market. So I don’t expect him back next season.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject:

Anyone calculate Kershaw's post season ERA?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Anyone calculate Kershaw's post season ERA?


who cares people are depressed enough
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

2 things you can count on for playoff Dodgers.
Roberts screwing with the bullpen.
Kershaw giving up multiple homeruns.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
Roberts Resume

2017:
Not pulling Kershaw after he got rocked for 4 runs in game 5
Not pulling Darvish after he looked REALLY shaky.

2018:
Yanking Hill too early game 4 through his lack of communication.
Batting Kike 3rd in the elimination game.

2019:
Keeping Kershaw in after he allowed a HR
Let Joe (bleep) Kelly lose the entire series.

Sprinkled between all this are horrendous lineups and bullpen moves. I'm probably missing a ton of other (bleep).


If Dave Roberts were in the Red Sox organization he probably wouldn't have made it past year 1.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
How many years does Kersh have left on his contract?


2 more years. He signed the 3 yr $93mm deal after opting out. This was year 1
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:12 pm    Post subject:

Its simple Kershaw can’t pitch in high pressure spots
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject:

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Its simple Kershaw can’t pitch in high pressure spots


It's even more simpler -- Kershaw can't pitch.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
The only thing that Marcellus Wiley has ever been right about is saying that Kershaw can't control himself to repeat his mechanics the same way in the postseason. He simply doesn't execute pitches, and this was the case even when he actually had great stuff. Maybe he's too amped up, but whatever it is, he simply can't execute under the pressure of postseason baseball like you would expect such a great regular season performer to do. His defenders have often pointed out that he has thrown some great games in the postseason. Well, yeah, I would freaking hope that a player of his talent would have some of those LOL. It's that the implosions are like nothing I've ever seen from, and I'll say it again, such a legendarily great regular season athlete, in any sport.

Yes, Roberts probably shouldn't have had him in the 8th inning. But back-to-back homers on back-to-back pitches? It's like a Shakespearean tragedy.


It really sucks because he’s an all-time great and and by all accounts an incredible human being. He needs a sports psychologist on retainer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:16 pm    Post subject:

nickuku wrote:
Roberts Resume

2017:
Not pulling Kershaw after he got rocked for 4 runs in game 5
Not pulling Darvish after he looked REALLY shaky.

2018:
Yanking Hill too early game 4 through his lack of communication.
Batting Kike 3rd in the elimination game.

2019:
Keeping Kershaw in after he allowed a HR
Let Joe (bleep) Kelly lose the entire series.

Sprinkled between all this are horrendous lineups and bullpen moves. I'm probably missing a ton of other (bleep).

He's pulled a hot Maeda multiple times. Sometimes for a cold left hander who gets immediately lit up. Sometimes for a pinch hitter when we're tied late even though there isn't a runner in scoring position.
He's let Jansen's pitch count get high before too. Today he decided to go the other way. Even after Kelly walked the lead off hitter.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
Dodgers still have 2 years of the Clayton Kershaw experience left....so....they aren't gonna be able to get rid of him.


I was so opposed to extending him after last year. Really hope we can unload him.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Anyone calculate Kershaw's post season ERA?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

AD23 wrote:
Its simple Kershaw can’t pitch in high pressure spots

I know there's no salary cap in baseball. But you have to think we could be using that $31 mill a year better.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject:

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Its simple Kershaw can’t pitch in high pressure spots


I thought was clear 3 years ago, but it's more important we pretend he's still ace... at least until we fire this manager.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:20 pm    Post subject:

Gerrit Cole please front office. You letting Ryu walk and Hill is done

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