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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 am    Post subject:

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Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.



I don't get the problem with this. The game wasn't until 7:30 at night. I don't see an issue with him taking off a couple of hours in the afternoon to take a short helicopter ride to see his son play. Why is that worse than going to an afternoon movie, which is probably what most players do when they have time to kill before a road game.


What do you think is more draining - sitting in the stands and cheering for your son or sitting in a movie for 2 hours and not moving?

Do you also seriously think that driving 200 miles round trip, being on the move, dealing with crowds, cheering at a game is the same as sitting in your room watching a movie or better yet, game tape?


First, he didn't drive 200 miles round trip. He took a short helicopter ride.

Second, I don't understand why you think Lebron going to watch his son play basketball for a couple of hours would "drain" him. Basketball players are human beings, not robots that they stick in a closet between games. They actually go out and do stuff -- just like you and me. Personally, watching my son play basketball sounds like a more pleasant afternoon than sitting in a movie theatre or being cooped up in a hotel room. Wouldn't drain me at all.


LA Times say the helicopter report was not right and it doesn't really matter. His focus was not on the game.

He is a professional and paid $35m to focus on basketball during the season.

Where do you draw the line? Would you defend him if he flew from Boston to LA back to Boston in one day to watch Bronny? What if AD had two days off and traveled to Miami to watch the Super Bowl and back?

When you don't read about other players doing this, you know it isn't usual.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:55 am    Post subject:

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Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.



I don't get the problem with this. The game wasn't until 7:30 at night. I don't see an issue with him taking off a couple of hours in the afternoon to take a short helicopter ride to see his son play. Why is that worse than going to an afternoon movie, which is probably what most players do when they have time to kill before a road game.

Agree. Bron's stats showed he was OK.
Others just didn't show up. Well, they did.
But Celtics' players wanted to win more in their home.
It was understandable.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:02 am    Post subject:

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activeverb wrote:
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Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.



I don't get the problem with this. The game wasn't until 7:30 at night. I don't see an issue with him taking off a couple of hours in the afternoon to take a short helicopter ride to see his son play. Why is that worse than going to an afternoon movie, which is probably what most players do when they have time to kill before a road game.


What do you think is more draining - sitting in the stands and cheering for your son or sitting in a movie for 2 hours and not moving?

Do you also seriously think that driving 200 miles round trip, being on the move, dealing with crowds, cheering at a game is the same as sitting in your room watching a movie or better yet, game tape?


First, he didn't drive 200 miles round trip. He took a short helicopter ride.

Second, I don't understand why you think Lebron going to watch his son play basketball for a couple of hours would "drain" him. Basketball players are human beings, not robots that they stick in a closet between games. They actually go out and do stuff -- just like you and me. Personally, watching my son play basketball sounds like a more pleasant afternoon than sitting in a movie theatre or being cooped up in a hotel room. Wouldn't drain me at all.


LA Times say the helicopter report was not right and it doesn't really matter. His focus was not on the game.

He is a professional and paid $35m to focus on basketball during the season.

Where do you draw the line? Would you defend him if he flew from Boston to LA back to Boston in one day to watch Bronny? What if AD had two days off and traveled to Miami to watch the Super Bowl and back?

When you don't read about other players doing this, you know it isn't usual.

Maybe Bron's teammates were also of the opinion that young celtics would be a piece of cake.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:04 am    Post subject:

I'm seeing in this team the same issue that the kobe-pau team had in the finals lost against the celtics.

Lack of toughness, or "cazzimma" as we call it in Italy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:08 am    Post subject:

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I'm seeing in this team the same issue that the kobe-pau team had in the finals lost against the celtics.

Lack of toughness, or "cazzimma" as we call it in Italy.


The current Celtics dont compare with 2008 champ Celtics.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:39 am    Post subject:

Not getting up?


More like our offense can't keep up. As great as our defense is teams can score... then we have to match that scoring and we can't!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:43 am    Post subject:

moonriver24 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.



I don't get the problem with this. The game wasn't until 7:30 at night. I don't see an issue with him taking off a couple of hours in the afternoon to take a short helicopter ride to see his son play. Why is that worse than going to an afternoon movie, which is probably what most players do when they have time to kill before a road game.

Agree. Bron's stats showed he was OK.
Others just didn't show up. Well, they did.
But Celtics' players wanted to win more in their home.
It was understandable.


So you don't see the game. Just an example was the volleyball offensive rebound basket by Kemba behind Lebron. It is in the highlights.

Stats are ok??? We got 27 points combined of our 2 superstars.

EKanter got 18 point in the first half, almost all in offensive rebounds. If Dwight or McGee go to block JBrown or JTatum driving, who is supposed to box out Kanter?? Davis or James. The others have their average as roll players as they are.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:45 am    Post subject:

nah. we're just outmatched
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:47 am    Post subject:

scout0_0 wrote:
Not getting up?


More like our offense can't keep up. As great as our defense is teams can score... then we have to match that scoring and we can't!


yup
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:06 am    Post subject:

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Dont we have the best record in the nba against >.500?


5-6 vs top 4 teams in each conference


Are there stats on this for the other top teams? Clippers? Bucks..ect

Otherwise we don't know if 5-6 is good or bad?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:07 am    Post subject:

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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Boldarblood wrote:
Dont we have the best record in the nba against >.500?


5-6 vs top 4 teams in each conference


Are there stats on this for the other top teams? Clippers? Bucks..ect

Otherwise we don't know if 5-6 is good or bad?


So what’s the remedy? Trade?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:07 am    Post subject:

lar9149 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Boldarblood wrote:
Dont we have the best record in the nba against >.500?


5-6 vs top 4 teams in each conference


Are there stats on this for the other top teams? Clippers? Bucks..ect

Otherwise we don't know if 5-6 is good or bad?


When is below .500 ever good?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:09 am    Post subject:

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LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:13 am    Post subject:

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drae wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:19 am    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
activeverb wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
activeverb wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.



I don't get the problem with this. The game wasn't until 7:30 at night. I don't see an issue with him taking off a couple of hours in the afternoon to take a short helicopter ride to see his son play. Why is that worse than going to an afternoon movie, which is probably what most players do when they have time to kill before a road game.


What do you think is more draining - sitting in the stands and cheering for your son or sitting in a movie for 2 hours and not moving?

Do you also seriously think that driving 200 miles round trip, being on the move, dealing with crowds, cheering at a game is the same as sitting in your room watching a movie or better yet, game tape?


First, he didn't drive 200 miles round trip. He took a short helicopter ride.

Second, I don't understand why you think Lebron going to watch his son play basketball for a couple of hours would "drain" him. Basketball players are human beings, not robots that they stick in a closet between games. They actually go out and do stuff -- just like you and me. Personally, watching my son play basketball sounds like a more pleasant afternoon than sitting in a movie theatre or being cooped up in a hotel room. Wouldn't drain me at all.


LA Times say the helicopter report was not right and it doesn't really matter. His focus was not on the game.

He is a professional and paid $35m to focus on basketball during the season.

Where do you draw the line? Would you defend him if he flew from Boston to LA back to Boston in one day to watch Bronny? What if AD had two days off and traveled to Miami to watch the Super Bowl and back?

When you don't read about other players doing this, you know it isn't usual.


As long as a player is working out, going to practice, playing in games, and meeting his professional obligations, I think he's free to do whatever he wants with his free time like anyone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:19 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
drae wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


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No one in the league


Kobe and Jordan were Sociopaths. It made them special on the court. Imagine if Lebron punched Kuzma over $200 in today’s Twitter age?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:36 am    Post subject:

LaLaLakeShow wrote:
lar9149 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Boldarblood wrote:
Dont we have the best record in the nba against >.500?


5-6 vs top 4 teams in each conference


Are there stats on this for the other top teams? Clippers? Bucks..ect

Otherwise we don't know if 5-6 is good or bad?


When is below .500 ever good?


It is always relative..remember 6 of those games have been on the road (Bucks, Clippers (?), Nuggets, Jazz, Celtics, Heat). Additionally, the Mavs were once top 4 and the Rockets and the Lakers beat them so this stat changes over time. Making it a bit useless If all the sudden the Nuggets, Jazz, or Clippers went on a losing streak (which has happened to all those teams already), this stat will all the sudden change (as the Lakers have beaten the Mavs 3 times and the Rockets once).

Road teams win more than 60% of the time and also every few teams have winning road records this year (probably the road advantage has significantly increased?)

A stat like above is more useful at the end of the season because things will even out by than..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:29 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
governator wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
drae wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


No one on the Lakers


No one in the league


Kobe and Jordan were Sociopaths. It made them special on the court. Imagine if Lebron punched Kuzma over $200 in today’s Twitter age?


They weren’t perfect either. I think it’s easy to look at a game like Monday and say that it would never happen to Kobe or Jordan but it could, and it did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:01 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
lar9149 wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Boldarblood wrote:
Dont we have the best record in the nba against >.500?


5-6 vs top 4 teams in each conference


Are there stats on this for the other top teams? Clippers? Bucks..ect

Otherwise we don't know if 5-6 is good or bad?


So what’s the remedy? Trade?


Buyouts are preferable unless the trade is a no brainer for us.
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Treble Clef wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
governator wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
drae wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


No one on the Lakers


No one in the league


Kobe and Jordan were Sociopaths. It made them special on the court. Imagine if Lebron punched Kuzma over $200 in today’s Twitter age?


They weren’t perfect either. I think it’s easy to look at a game like Monday and say that it would never happen to Kobe or Jordan but it could, and it did.


Yeah, but you would never question where their focus was that night.
At least not with Kobe...Mike had the gambling thing
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LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Treble Clef wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
governator wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
drae wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Lebron didn't come to LA to win championships. His priority is his family and expanding his empire. If he saw yesterdays game as an important, he wouldn't have gone to his son's game a 100 miles away before the game.

AD needs to learn from Lebron what it takes to win championships and fully devote himself to the game, but unfortunately at this point in Lebron's career, Lebron isn't the best role model.

Does anyone think Kobe would have been OK with an injured AD taking his teammates to a football game across the country after a road-trip?


There's nobody like Kobe in today's NBA. People need to move on


No one on the Lakers


No one in the league


Kobe and Jordan were Sociopaths. It made them special on the court. Imagine if Lebron punched Kuzma over $200 in today’s Twitter age?


They weren’t perfect either. I think it’s easy to look at a game like Monday and say that it would never happen to Kobe or Jordan but it could, and it did.


Yeah, but you would never question where their focus was that night.
At least not with Kobe...Mike had the gambling thing


Mike was the worst off the court. Drinking, cigars, gambling, womanizing, Casino all-nighters, punching Kerr for no reason. But he is the GOAT in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:20 pm    Post subject:

The title of this thread is unfair. We as Lakers fans definitely got up for this game. I was up emotionally and physically 😝. You can’t blame us OP! “We” were emotionally up.

Now the players, well I can’t speak for them. 🤣
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:15 pm    Post subject:

Not getting up emotionally or not good enough? I say the latter. When we played the bucks and when we played the clips 2x the better team won on all occasions
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:22 pm    Post subject:

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nah. we're just outmatched

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:26 pm    Post subject:

Well I think Bron will play hard depends on his rivalry not with the Lakers rivalry. Look when he is playing with Luka, he goes all out everytime he play against him. He also play hard againt James Harden, Giannis, The Nugget, The Miami Heat and The Cavs. I think he's not playing hard against the Clippers yet though.
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