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venturalakersfan
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Warriors have 2 top 10 first round picks, the #2 this year and potentially the Wolves next season. That would give the Suns trade assets and a $15.6 mil TPE if they want to try and compete.
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Jesusdelonla
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Warriors have 2 top 10 first round picks, the #2 this year and potentially the Wolves next season. That would give the Suns trade assets and a $15.6 mil TPE if they want to try and compete. |
top 10 pick for a guy who is on a 1year deal and will be coming off a major injury
and like pjiddy said i am a Oubre homer |
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LastStand 2.0
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If jrue holiday is even remotely possible to me that’s the guy you get
He’s everything they need, defense, solid shooter, size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness
He’s not a rondo level PG but he is better at everything else at this stage
He’d be the win of the offseason IMO
If you somehow could get holiday and bring back Kcp you’d have by far the best defensive team in the nba. The length and athleticism would be unreal |
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Jesusdelonla
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| LastStand 2.0 wrote: | If jrue holiday is even remotely possible to me that’s the guy you get
He’s everything they need, defense, solid shooter, size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness
He’s not a rondo level PG but he is better at everything else at this stage
He’d be the win of the offseason IMO
If you somehow could get holiday and bring back Kcp you’d have by far the best defensive team in the nba. The length and athleticism would be unreal |
Better packages out there then ours if he goes on the block |
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| 32 wrote: | | https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1322379829115822081?s=19 |
Not surprised, Dudley said the players didn’t like the idea of playing 50 games. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| LastStand 2.0 wrote: | If jrue holiday is even remotely possible to me that’s the guy you get
He’s everything they need, defense, solid shooter, size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness
He’s not a rondo level PG but he is better at everything else at this stage
He’d be the win of the offseason IMO
If you somehow could get holiday and bring back Kcp you’d have by far the best defensive team in the nba. The length and athleticism would be unreal |
Zero way to get him. DGreen, Kuzma, and 28 isn’t even close if all things were equal, and since I’m sure the Pelicans are feeling a bit sore we won the ring with AD there’s going to be a Laker tax to boot. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | Milsap's passing, spacing and veteran savvy would be major positives. Wouldn't be unhappy with that outcome. People often talk about spacing as being a function of shooting (and it is). But if your team passing is strong, that's another way to create space.
The subtle truth about the championship Warriors is that they were excellent in shooting and passing, making it impossible to stop them.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Millsap for the vet's min? Heck yeah. Anything higher? Uh no. |
I'd be surprised if he was on the table at that price. Didn't he move over $30 million last year? |
His last contract was for 3 years/$90 million, but he won't get anywhere close to that again. I could see him falling to the vet's minimum, but it's just as likely Denver will resign him or some team will throw at least part of the MLE his way. Most contenders would welcome a guy like him. |
Milsap might be the type of player who falls to vet min money because of the lower revenue that will be coming in.
There aren't going to be many teams looking to spend money- most will be looking to shed salary. For the few teams that are going to want to add money to try to compete, the flat cap and tax levels (lower than what teams were planning for a year ago) will keep most of them from spending too much, as they won't want to get hard-capped.
There just might not be much money out there for a guy like Milsap. If someone offers him half of the tp-mle, that wouldn't add up to much more than a vet min deal, and at that point maybe he comes here on a min deal to have the best chance of winning a ring. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Millsap for the vet's min? Heck yeah. Anything higher? Uh no. |
Agreed. |
I second the motion. |
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| babyskyhook wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Millsap for the vet's min? Heck yeah. Anything higher? Uh no. |
Agreed. |
I second the motion. |
Taking whose place? If we lose JaVale or/and Dwight, we'll need rim protectors and rim runners.
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| mhan00 wrote: | | LastStand 2.0 wrote: | If jrue holiday is even remotely possible to me that’s the guy you get
He’s everything they need, defense, solid shooter, size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness
He’s not a rondo level PG but he is better at everything else at this stage
He’d be the win of the offseason IMO
If you somehow could get holiday and bring back Kcp you’d have by far the best defensive team in the nba. The length and athleticism would be unreal |
Zero way to get him. DGreen, Kuzma, and 28 isn’t even close if all things were equal, and since I’m sure the Pelicans are feeling a bit sore we won the ring with AD there’s going to be a Laker tax to boot. |
This! Time to move on just like some of the players mentioned that we are potentially signing for the MLE who we have no shot of signing. |
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Cam Reddish - who would you give up?
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| €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Cam Reddish - who would you give up? |
Kuz + 28 but prefer Hunter. |
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| carjoch831 wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Cam Reddish - who would you give up? |
Kuz + 28 but prefer Hunter. |
Any trade involving Kuz should be for a vet who could help us win now and not a project like those 2. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| 3baller wrote: | | carjoch831 wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Cam Reddish - who would you give up? |
Kuz + 28 but prefer Hunter. |
Any trade involving Kuz should be for a vet who could help us win now and not a project like those 2. |
100% correct |
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LastStand 2.0
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| RI Laker wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | LastStand 2.0 wrote: | If jrue holiday is even remotely possible to me that’s the guy you get
He’s everything they need, defense, solid shooter, size, athleticism, intelligence, toughness
He’s not a rondo level PG but he is better at everything else at this stage
He’d be the win of the offseason IMO
If you somehow could get holiday and bring back Kcp you’d have by far the best defensive team in the nba. The length and athleticism would be unreal |
Zero way to get him. DGreen, Kuzma, and 28 isn’t even close if all things were equal, and since I’m sure the Pelicans are feeling a bit sore we won the ring with AD there’s going to be a Laker tax to boot. |
This! Time to move on just like some of the players mentioned that we are potentially signing for the MLE who we have no shot of signing. |
Lol time to move on?
Sure some suggestions are more unrealistic than others but posts like “move on” are hilarious to me
It’s not as if any fans have any say in what happens
It’s not like people suggesting James harden is going to make the FO say “hold on guys let’s not do anything else until the fans move on from harden” |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| babyskyhook wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | Milsap's passing, spacing and veteran savvy would be major positives. Wouldn't be unhappy with that outcome. People often talk about spacing as being a function of shooting (and it is). But if your team passing is strong, that's another way to create space.
The subtle truth about the championship Warriors is that they were excellent in shooting and passing, making it impossible to stop them.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Millsap for the vet's min? Heck yeah. Anything higher? Uh no. |
I'd be surprised if he was on the table at that price. Didn't he move over $30 million last year? |
His last contract was for 3 years/$90 million, but he won't get anywhere close to that again. I could see him falling to the vet's minimum, but it's just as likely Denver will resign him or some team will throw at least part of the MLE his way. Most contenders would welcome a guy like him. |
Milsap might be the type of player who falls to vet min money because of the lower revenue that will be coming in.
There aren't going to be many teams looking to spend money- most will be looking to shed salary. For the few teams that are going to want to add money to try to compete, the flat cap and tax levels (lower than what teams were planning for a year ago) will keep most of them from spending too much, as they won't want to get hard-capped.
There just might not be much money out there for a guy like Milsap. If someone offers him half of the tp-mle, that wouldn't add up to much more than a vet min deal, and at that point maybe he comes here on a min deal to have the best chance of winning a ring. |
That's certainly possible. If he has to accept the vet's min, he'll have his pick of any team in the league. Then it's just a matter of which team he likes best. |
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lakerican
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What about the guard Windhorst was referring is TRozier?
DGreen & KKuzma for TRozier works... |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| HAWAIIGUY27 wrote: | Derrick Rose, Danny Green, Talen Horton-Tucker, LAL future 1st to CHI
Kyle Kuzma, JaVale McGee to DET
Zach LaVine to LAL
Who says no? |
I don't think anyone says no. The Bulls would just laugh and hang up the phone. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| lakerican wrote: | What about the guard Windhorst was referring is TRozier?
DGreen & KKuzma for TRozier works... |
Would rather just pay Rondo |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | lakerican wrote: | What about the guard Windhorst was referring is TRozier?
DGreen & KKuzma for TRozier works... |
Would rather just pay Rondo |
i am all up for trading kuzma and Dgreen but it looks like every guy we bring up, from beal to trozier...its the same package...kuzma + d green |
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lakerican
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, is there is anyone else? |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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LAL - Zach Lavine
Bulls - Hields/Green/ 28th
Kings - Kuzma/Otto Porter
Bulls shed salary
Kings get 2 wings players
Lakers get there future player! |
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| They should keep the opt-out dates before the draft so trades are easy to make |
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