In my opinion this makes Kobe look bad, I don't have a clue what's going on in their family but his parents shouldn't have to resort to this. Kobe is mega rich, he should make sure his folks are well taken care of. Like I said, I'm just speaking from a perspective of an outsider looking in.
I'm an outsider looking in, and I don't get your perspective. How does Kobe's parents stealing from their son make KOBE look bad?
Why would you make your own parents issue a public apology....
And you're basing this off of what? Nothing. Stop making up stuff. _________________ LG needs a min IQ requirement for posting.
"Prior to evolving his game this season (12-13), Kobe became a tall Allen Iverson." - Lakersarethebesteva
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something. _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever.
In my opinion this makes Kobe look bad, I don't have a clue what's going on in their family but his parents shouldn't have to resort to this. Kobe is mega rich, he should make sure his folks are well taken care of. Like I said, I'm just speaking from a perspective of an outsider looking in.
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In my opinion this makes Kobe look bad, I don't have a clue what's going on in their family but his parents shouldn't have to resort to this. Kobe is mega rich, he should make sure his folks are well taken care of. Like I said, I'm just speaking from a perspective of an outsider looking in.
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:28 am Post subject:
KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
In my opinion this makes Kobe look bad, I don't have a clue what's going on in their family but his parents shouldn't have to resort to this. Kobe is mega rich, he should make sure his folks are well taken care of. Like I said, I'm just speaking from a perspective of an outsider looking in.
LOL you "perspective" should get "EDUMACATED"
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject:
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#DominateParents _________________ "Love me or hate me; it's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons."
I wonder; They wanted a home in Vegas, did they ask Kobe to buy it for them, did he say no? I get the impression there's some jealousy involved.
If I understand correctly, he bought Vanessa's parents a larger house than he did them.
What Kobe does to his money is his own. There was a follow up report earlier that said Kobe was willing to buy his parents a 250K something house in Vegas but the parents wanted a bigger one at around 500k. Kobe said no. So the mom and dad decided to auction Kobe's stuff. To me that's pretty embarrassing for the parents to pull a stunt like that. It's basically blackmail. From a PR perspective, they've hurt their son a great deal. I know Kobe is their son and all. But the dude is married with 2 kids. Plus the mansion that went to Vanessa's mom was part of a settlement earlier during their divorce proceedings. I am not sure what happened to that now that they've reconciled. If anything that mansion is most likely titled under Vanessa. Thus they retain the ownership rights. _________________ The road back to the top...
I wonder; They wanted a home in Vegas, did they ask Kobe to buy it for them, did he say no? I get the impression there's some jealousy involved.
If I understand correctly, he bought Vanessa's parents a larger house than he did them.
What Kobe does to his money is his own. There was a follow up report earlier that said Kobe was willing to buy his parents a 250K something house in Vegas but the parents wanted a bigger one at around 500k. Kobe said no. So the mom and dad decided to auction Kobe's stuff. To me that's pretty embarrassing for the parents to pull a stunt like that. It's basically blackmail. From a PR perspective, they've hurt their son a great deal. I know Kobe is their son and all. But the dude is married with 2 kids. Plus the mansion that went to Vanessa's mom was part of a settlement earlier during their divorce proceedings. I am not sure what happened to that now that they've reconciled. If anything that mansion is most likely titled under Vanessa. Thus they retain the ownership rights.
Didn't his parents disown him after vanessa until kobe had his first daughter?
Maybe his parents will be nice again when kobe has a son. _________________ Kobe
I wonder; They wanted a home in Vegas, did they ask Kobe to buy it for them, did he say no? I get the impression there's some jealousy involved.
If I understand correctly, he bought Vanessa's parents a larger house than he did them.
What Kobe does to his money is his own. There was a follow up report earlier that said Kobe was willing to buy his parents a 250K something house in Vegas but the parents wanted a bigger one at around 500k. Kobe said no. So the mom and dad decided to auction Kobe's stuff. To me that's pretty embarrassing for the parents to pull a stunt like that. It's basically blackmail. From a PR perspective, they've hurt their son a great deal. I know Kobe is their son and all. But the dude is married with 2 kids. Plus the mansion that went to Vanessa's mom was part of a settlement earlier during their divorce proceedings. I am not sure what happened to that now that they've reconciled. If anything that mansion is most likely titled under Vanessa. Thus they retain the ownership rights.
Didn't his parents disown him after vanessa until kobe had his first daughter?
Maybe his parents will be nice again when kobe has a son.
Kobe didn't offer them a 250k house, he offered them a 250k downpayment. Isn't the downpayment usually 10% of what the house is being sold for? So basically he was offering them a 2.5 mil home and they wanted a 4.5 mil home. They need to sit down with that nonsense. The fact that they couldn't cover the 200k difference when Joe has been a coach in the WNBA and is currently working as a coach tells me all I need to know about how they handle money.
I will say that the apology was awkward. Either Kobe told them to apologize or they apologized because they realized the short-sightedness of their actions, but whatever it was awkward.
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject:
BigBoi wrote:
hoopschick29 wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
In my opinion this makes Kobe look bad, I don't have a clue what's going on in their family but his parents shouldn't have to resort to this. Kobe is mega rich, he should make sure his folks are well taken care of. Like I said, I'm just speaking from a perspective of an outsider looking in.
I'm an outsider looking in, and I don't get your perspective. How does Kobe's parents stealing from their son make KOBE look bad?
It looks like an act of desperation on their part. She probably needed the money so bad, while Kobe is swimming in it.
Except that's not the case, they said so themselves in their statement.
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 12898 Location: Los Angeles
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject:
clutchkobe wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
postandpivot wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
postandpivot wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
So you would steal from your own child? _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
bad parents are parents that hit and do unheard things to you....None of you have the right to judge these people....only kobe can judge them. i know how hard it is to be a parent and i would never state that other people are bad parents without knowing both sides of the story....i know you love kobe....but this is ridiculous.
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
If you've done something in your life as dismissive or passive aggressive as selling your own child's accomplishments and mementos whose worth is predicated on the same amount of hard work that has bought you cars and houses, you are unequivocally a bad parent.
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject:
clutchkobe wrote:
bad parents are parents that hit and do unheard things to you....None of you have the right to judge these people....only kobe can judge them. i know how hard it is to be a parent and i would never state that other people are bad parents without knowing both sides of the story....i know you love kobe....but this is ridiculous.
Bad parents are what you described. But attempting to profit off your child's achievements underhandedly by selling things they KNOW don't belong to them is also bad parenting. There's nothing HARD about not stealing your kid's things. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
So you would steal from your own child?
and who said they stole from them.....was this proven in court. this story is being blown out of proportion. Is there anyone you wont attack for kobe. i love kobe to....but he is not always right. Why are they even trying to get money? this is their business but things are said between love ones, that they dont mean.
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject:
clutchkobe wrote:
hoopschick29 wrote:
clutchkobe wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
postandpivot wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
postandpivot wrote:
The Shadow King wrote:
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
So you would steal from your own child?
and who said they stole from them.....was this proven in court. this story is being blown out of proportion. Is there anyone you wont attack for kobe. i love kobe to....but he is not always right. Why are they even trying to get money? this is their business but things are said between love ones, that they dont mean.
First of all, have a seat.
Second, what do you call making a deal to sell 100+ items that belong to your son behind his back without telling him? That's called stealing. Why they did it is irrelevant. The fact that they did it IS the point.
Third, had Joe and Pam kept whatever dispute they have with Kobe in the family, this wouldn't have happened. But you know what they did? They took money...$450k in advance for things they didn't own. This ended up in court because they handed things that didn't belong to them over to a 3rd party.
And finally, had Kobe been a real hardass, this would be going to trial next week. And Kobe would've won. And Joe and Pam would've been stuck on stupid trying to figure out how they're gonna pay Goldin Auctions back that 1/2 mil they took under fraudulent circumstances. Instead, they have a chance to break even with the 6 items they're being allowed to sell and all it cost them was an apology. Kobe showed his parents way more consideration than they gave him. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Damn... it would break my heart if it were my parents doing this. My mother wouldn't sell the Mr. Freeze picture that I drew her in 3rd grade for anything.
bad comparison. you drew it for HER. kobe was not winning rings and playing ball for his parents. he did that for himself. sure he gave them some things after he earned awards and wore jersey's etc. but the truth is, he didnt do those things for them. thats completely different.
It is still a cherished memory. The sentiment is the same. But even if they are not the same, you mean to tell me Kobe didn't mind much that they sold his trophies because he didn't earn those things FOR them? I find that incredibly far-fetched.
you're missing my point. its not about kobe. your parents keep your old stuff because THEY want to cherish it. if you draw your mother something in the 1st grade. she will keep it forever. you drew it for HER.
kobe plays ball for HIMSELF, he wins FOR HIMSELF. just so happened he gave them things after he won things, he left his child hood jersey's.
those things are more or less garage stuff. not stuff a parent would go thru and go "awwww, i remember when you were 2 years old and you made this for me and daddy."
the only person that would be all extra proud of his hoop stuff is his dad(unless his mom was heavy into sports and basketball).
So you go out of a way to express a moot fact? Yeah, Kobe's situation is different from mine. But unless you are implying that Kobe's memorial trophies don't mean anything to him, the sentiment is still the same.
Must you always be so argumentative about everything all of the time? Go hug your family or something.
stop labeling the parents....you dont know them. one incident and now they are bad parents. if thats the case all of the rest of us are bad parents to....because there will come a time when you think you are doing something right and they think you are wrong.
So you would steal from your own child?
and who said they stole from them.....was this proven in court. this story is being blown out of proportion. Is there anyone you wont attack for kobe. i love kobe to....but he is not always right. Why are they even trying to get money? this is their business but things are said between love ones, that they dont mean.
First of all, have a seat.
Second, what do you call making a deal to sell 100+ items that belong to your son behind his back without telling him? That's called stealing. Why they did it is irrelevant. The fact that they did it IS the point.
Third, had Joe and Pam kept whatever dispute they have with Kobe in the family, this wouldn't have happened. But you know what they did? They took money...$450k in advance for things they didn't own. This ended up in court because they handed things that didn't belong to them over to a 3rd party.
And finally, had Kobe been a real hardass, this would be going to trial next week. And Kobe would've won. And Joe and Pam would've been stuck on stupid trying to figure out how they're gonna pay Goldin Auctions back that 1/2 mil they took under fraudulent circumstances. Instead, they have a chance to break even with the 6 items they're being allowed to sell and all it cost them was an apology. Kobe showed his parents way more consideration than they gave him.
Don't waste your time hoops. You're arguing with someone who called Kobe a "bad son" when the story first broke. Then harped on those who criticize Kobe's mom and turned around and criticized the mother of Kobe's kids lol. _________________ LG needs a min IQ requirement for posting.
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