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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject:

Bottom line is he's not comfortable taking them if he's not wide open. He's 21, he'll get there.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject:

Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Agreed.. he really does play like a dummy when he's in foul trouble. His first few fouls were bogus tonight.

I think that hurt the team defensively in the first half.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:47 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."


Lol I’m one of the biggest fans of him on here. Excuse me for not being overly excited after this pathetic performance by this lakers team.

Yes he had a good scoring game.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Not a fan of the turnovers, but I'm happy he didn't shrink after getting blocked twice on the dunk attempts. He actually ramped his offense up and followed with an and-1 and sunk his 3's afterwards.

Just hope his hand is okay. Saw him holding it out in those last few minutes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."


Don't you know? Unless you score more than the #1 scorer in the league (Harden 36.5) scoring more than the #2 player (PG 28.9) is just pretty well.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:53 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."


Lol I’m one of the biggest fans of him on here. Excuse me for not being overly excited after this pathetic performance by this lakers team.

Yes he had a good scoring game.


Yea great scoring game considering the refs took him out of the first half.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:55 pm    Post subject:

LOL I can’t believe people are in their feelings about “pretty well”

And I’m a huge ingram supporter too haha
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:55 pm    Post subject:

another strong game....that is the next step for him....begin stringing several strong performances together
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."


Lol I’m one of the biggest fans of him on here. Excuse me for not being overly excited after this pathetic performance by this lakers team.

Yes he had a good scoring game.


I'm not overly excited by this pathetic Lakers team performance neither. It seems like BI and Lebron are the only ones stepping up... Luke been had to go. I think Maginka and Jeanie should go, but we know they are not. I'm hearing that Jeanie is also the reason Luke haven't gotten fired.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
LOL I can’t believe people are in their feelings about “pretty well”

And I’m a huge ingram supporter too haha


Just one guy questioned it boss.. Most of us know you're generally positive.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 pm    Post subject:

Getting his soul snatched by that scrub Diallo was pretty disappointing, the refs also didn't do him any favors, nice scoring stats tho.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject:

I just hope we make the playoffs. He’s heating up at the right time. Hopefully our young guys get a chance to show their stuff in the big games
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:03 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Needs to stop getting those dumb fouls and turnovers.

But one of the few that played with aggression tonight and scored pretty well


Scored pretty well is funny... He was 10/18 fgs, 3/4 3p, 6/9 ft, and scored 29 points, in 25 minutes. I would say that is better than "pretty well."


Don't you know? Unless you score more than the #1 scorer in the league (Harden 36.5) scoring more than the #2 player (PG 28.9) is just pretty well.


It seems like it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject:

Only complain: should not have picked up the 3rd foul so quick.

Was listening to la audio and they were saying BI looks mad and let's see what he does. He went ahead and picked up that offensive foul and was done for the half
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
I just hope we make the playoffs. He’s heating up at the right time. Hopefully our young guys get a chance to show their stuff in the big games


Ingram and Kuz are having better seasons this year than Brown and Tatum but you wouldn't know it listening to the talking heads on ESPN. Would love it if they could shut those guys up by showcasing their talents in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject:

He wasn’t the problem at all tonight. Look at the other non LBJ vets. Nothin.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
eFG% of some key perimeter players since 3 point era began plus key current players

Steph 58.2
Nash 55.6
Klay 55.0
Hield 54.9
Stockton 54.6
R. Miller 54.4
LBJ 54.1
KD 54.1
Kawhi 53.4
Magic 53.3
Ray Allen 53.0
Kuzma 52.8
Tatum 52.6
Worthy 52.5
Kyrie 52.4
Harden 52.4
Jaylen 52.3
Butler 52.2
Tobias 52.2
TJ Warren 52.2
CJ 52.0
Manu 52.0
CP3 51.8
Beal 51.8
Khris 51.7
Bird 51.4
Gordon 51.2
PG 51.1
Jordan 50.9
Lillard 50.9
IT 50.9
Doncic 50.6
Lowry 50.5
Hayward 50.1
Pierce 50.0
Dumars 49.8
Jrue 49.7
Barnes 49.7
Wade 49.6
Payton 49.6
Oladipo 49.5
Grant Hill 49.2
Donovan 49.1
Booker 49.1
Tim Hardaway 49.0
Vince 48.9
Penny 48.6
Kobe 48.2
LouWill 48.2
Melo 48.2
Kemba 48.1
D. Wilkins 47.8
TMac 47.0
Tony Parker 46.6
Detroit IT 46.5
DeRozan 46.4
Kidd 46.4
Westbrook 46.3
Wall 46.2
DSJ 46.0
Iverson 45.2

(Zion 70.5)

It's interesting how people call Ingram a trash shooter at 21 when he's shooting 50.1% while many who they worship... Westbrook, Kobe... shoot even worse. They will say... "Oh, well it was a different era when Kobe and Jordan were playing"... but that didn't seem to affect Stockton, Nash, Reggie. You also need to take into account that shot creators shoot more poorly than catch and shoot guys... but Ingram is a guy who can create his own shot. As someone who loves great shooters, I'm far from satisfied with Ingram's shooting... but keep these other players in mind if you are going say how bad he is.


I notice that you used everybody else's career eFG% and used Ingrams 50.1 EFG this year for comparison. I like BI but c'mon now. BI's career EFG% is a subpar 48%.

Different era and different league average eFG too. Up until the 2015-2016 season where the cavs came back to win it vs GSW, the league average TS% was less than 55% and league average EFG was 50%.

Michael Jordan had a career TS% of 57% and career eFG of 51%. Both above average. Kobe was at 55% and 48%. MJ was above average in both TS and eFG when he played. Kobe was at average TS and below average eFG.

Since BI came into the league, the average has been around 55.5% TS and 52% eFG. BI so far in his career is at 51.7% TS and 48% eFG. Both way below league average. Even if you only take into account this season's 53.9% TS and 50% eFG, he is still below average.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject:

I really like Brandon as a player but his turnovers are f*cking this team.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject:

I like what i see in Ingram. In my opinion he is the only one who has superstar potential. He has certain tools that you cant teach and I see him in a couple of years dominating and being a number one option.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
Only complain: should not have picked up the 3rd foul so quick.

Was listening to la audio and they were saying BI looks mad and let's see what he does. He went ahead and picked up that offensive foul and was done for the half


Saw it coming a mile away hahaah. As soon as he didn’t get the initial call.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
I really like Brandon as a player but his turnovers are f*cking this team.


Naw that's not what is messing this team up.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:24 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Only complain: should not have picked up the 3rd foul so quick.

Was listening to la audio and they were saying BI looks mad and let's see what he does. He went ahead and picked up that offensive foul and was done for the half


Saw it coming a mile away hahaah. As soon as he didn’t get the initial call.


He needs to learn how to control his anger, or at least channel is properly
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject:

He's starting to assert his dominance in certain areas of the game. I hope by next season, he'll have that epiphany that Giannis had and just realizes "hey, I'm that (bleep) guy and I can go out there and do this every night".

Crappy loss, but damn BI doing work.
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