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| jodeke wrote: | What's being overlooked is, Trumps tweets are the foundation for his stupidity defense when he's indicted.  |
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| ribeye wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | Trump just tweeted "Totally clears the president. Thank you!"
The walls are closing in, folks. |
And Carmelo Anthony is clearly the MVP as well, I suppose. |
I won People's Sexiest Man Alive!
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| kikanga wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | Trump just tweeted "Totally clears the president. Thank you!"
The walls are closing in, folks. |
And Carmelo Anthony is clearly the MVP as well, I suppose. |
I won People's Sexiest Man Alive! |
Idris Kikanga. Or is it Kikanga Elba? |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | Trump just tweeted "Totally clears the president. Thank you!"
The walls are closing in, folks. |
And Carmelo Anthony is clearly the MVP as well, I suppose. |
I won People's Sexiest Man Alive! |
Idris Kikanga. Or is it Kikanga Elba? |
That's Fake News! Idris didn't win it. I won it.
And even if I didn't win it. It's not a big deal.
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I don't think Trump understands who Individual 1 is.
BTW, where are all our conservative friends? They've been mysteriously absent. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | governator wrote: | | splashmtn wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | VicXLakers wrote: | | Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | Anyone who considered Hillary "the lesser of two evils" is an idiot. |
I've never understood why Hillary had the stigma of being corrupt but plenty of people I talked to just didn't like her for whatever reason. |
the republicans have been working hard on that caricature and caricatures of all Democrats for years ...I think it was at newt gingrich's direction that it started |
Ocasio-Cortez is next in line, but I think she's a distraction. |
please elaborate? |
GOP been dogging her hard, paint a nasty pic of her, Hillary like |
"BE BEST":
Donald Trump Jr. Attacks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez With Dog-Eating Meme |
She roasted him pretty hard back
| Quote: | | “I have noticed that Junior here has a habit of posting nonsense about me whenever the Mueller investigation heats up,” she tweeted. “Please, keep it coming Jr - it’s definitely a ‘very, very large brain’ idea to troll a member of a body that will have subpoena power in a month. Have fun!” |
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| Ok lawyers, what is this ‘southern district’ stuff that got CNN hyper-excited? |
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| governator wrote: | | Ok lawyers, what is this ‘southern district’ stuff that got CNN hyper-excited? |
SDNY has implicated Trump as a co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's campaign finance crimes. |
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| Just closed up the r/losangeles thread on congestion pricing only to see it here too. |
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| Quote: | Federal prosecutors have concluded that President Donald Trump participated in federal crimes when he directed his former personal attorney Michael Cohen to commit campaign finance violations by paying off two women during his 2016 campaign.
The conclusion was drawn by federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, who on Friday filed a sentencing memo suggesting that Cohen serve a “substantial” prison sentence of 51 to 63 months. While they found Trump to be complicit in Cohen's crimes, no formal charge has been rendered against the president. |
Dun Dun Duuunnn
So how long before the Southern District formally names Trump and officially files charges? Are they likely leaking all of the "Individual 1" mentions to Trumps team so they can get their affairs in order prior to official charges being made so the carnage is as orderly as possible? Or are they likely to wait until December 23rd and present him with a little Christmas present of those charges?
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| Dominator wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Ok lawyers, what is this ‘southern district’ stuff that got CNN hyper-excited? |
SDNY has implicated Trump as a co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's campaign finance crimes. |
will there actually be any consequences for trump? |
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Dominator wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Ok lawyers, what is this ‘southern district’ stuff that got CNN hyper-excited? |
SDNY has implicated Trump as a co-conspirator in Michael Cohen's campaign finance crimes. |
will there actually be any consequences for trump? |
When he's no longer President, potentially. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Trump just tweeted "Totally clears the president. Thank you!" |
But that "Individual 1" guy is totally hosed. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Surfitall wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | tlim wrote: | I've always felt that the efforts against Pelosi were really just misogyny.
Love what she has done and will do. |
You know why? . . . Because that is exactly what it is. |
Really? You can’t disagree with some of the policies she has supported and her reluctance to support other policies (like Medicare For All)? You can’t be against corporatism in the Democratic Party, of which she plays a significant role and crave something different? It has to be misogyny? |
Plenty of men have similar positions and don't get the amount of flack that she does. I wonder what the difference is . . . |
I have substantive differences with Surf, but I will vouch for him on the fact that he views all the mainstream democrats pretty equally. He’s an exception though.
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | Quote: | Federal prosecutors have concluded that President Donald Trump participated in federal crimes when he directed his former personal attorney Michael Cohen to commit campaign finance violations by paying off two women during his 2016 campaign.
The conclusion was drawn by federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, who on Friday filed a sentencing memo suggesting that Cohen serve a “substantial” prison sentence of 51 to 63 months. While they found Trump to be complicit in Cohen's crimes, no formal charge has been rendered against the president. |
Dun Dun Duuunnn
So how long before the Southern District formally names Trump and officially files charges? Are they likely leaking all of the "Individual 1" mentions to Trumps team so they can get their affairs in order prior to official charges being made so the carnage is as orderly as possible? Or are they likely to wait until December 23rd and present him with a little Christmas present of those charges? |
If SDNY files charges, I imagine there will be appeals up to the Supreme Court (where we don't have the numbers).
There's a great debate about whether a sitting President can be charged. The fact that it's state charges makes it interesting though.
I think Mueller has more. Filing charges against Trump is easy. Making a bulletproof case for impeachment is probably the goal (even though it's probably impossible).
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| kikanga wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | Quote: | Federal prosecutors have concluded that President Donald Trump participated in federal crimes when he directed his former personal attorney Michael Cohen to commit campaign finance violations by paying off two women during his 2016 campaign.
The conclusion was drawn by federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, who on Friday filed a sentencing memo suggesting that Cohen serve a “substantial” prison sentence of 51 to 63 months. While they found Trump to be complicit in Cohen's crimes, no formal charge has been rendered against the president. |
Dun Dun Duuunnn
The SDNY is a federal district, not state. I do believe there will be state charged in the future, but this is a federal case.
So how long before the Southern District formally names Trump and officially files charges? Are they likely leaking all of the "Individual 1" mentions to Trumps team so they can get their affairs in order prior to official charges being made so the carnage is as orderly as possible? Or are they likely to wait until December 23rd and present him with a little Christmas present of those charges? |
If SDNY files charges, I imagine there will be appeals up to the Supreme Court (where we don't have the numbers).
There's a great debate about whether a sitting President can be charged. The fact that it's state charges makes it interesting though.
I think Mueller has more. Filing charges against Trump is easy. Making a bulletproof case for impeachment is probably the goal (even though it's probably impossible). |
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| Quote: | | I think Mueller has more. Filing charges against Trump is easy. Making a bulletproof case for impeachment is probably the goal (even though it's probably impossible). |
Mueller will make a bulletproof case but it won't make a difference. The House may impeach but I don't think the Senate will convict.
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What we need to do is vote for a third party no matter what happens because me and the younger generation, we are so jaded we will never believe in what the dems or reps believe.
If you thinkk voting for the same two parties will change anything you are wrong and it starts here
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kikanga wrote:
| Quote: | | I think Mueller has more. Filing charges against Trump is easy. Making a bulletproof case for impeachment is probably the goal (even though it's probably impossible). |
Mueller will make a bulletproof case but it won't make a difference. The House may impeach but I don't think the Senate will convict.
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A Japanese government official would've already committed hara kiri after being accused of or implicated in all these. But then again the Trump family and their enablers are a different breed.
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | What we need to do is vote for a third party no matter what happens because me and the younger generation, we are so jaded we will never believe in what the dems or reps believe.
If you thinkk voting for the same two parties will change anything you are wrong and it starts here |
I would counter that you are the one wrong. As long as the two parties are so far apart, they tend to cancel out each other. Just imagine the two parties were Democratic Progressive and Democratic Moderate instead of what what we have.
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| jodeke wrote: | kikanga wrote:
| Quote: | | I think Mueller has more. Filing charges against Trump is easy. Making a bulletproof case for impeachment is probably the goal (even though it's probably impossible). |
Mueller will make a bulletproof case but it won't make a difference. The House may impeach but I don't think the Senate will convict. |
I tend to agree with you. Even if Mueller found out Trump personally committed murder. I still don't think the Senate would convict.
But I still want Mueller to make the strongest case possible for impeachment. And I want the House to act on it and impeach Trump.
That way when 2020 comes around, we have GOP Senators on record saying Trump is above the law.
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