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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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How can a Honest Christian support and promote Donald Trump or anyone other than Tiffany and Baron?
Our FLOTUS45 wore a coat while visiting the children in cages that had painted on the back of it in big letters that she didn't care. How much worse can it get? |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: |
Yes. Trump made straight white Evangelical males feel like an endangered species. Many Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have felt like that for a while, perhaps because the "others" have been doing better and better.
Imo it's also:
1. An attack on political correctness, which is either caused by racism or simply a feeling that the Dems don't care about straight white Christian men.
2. The undercurrent of authoritarianism in our nation that's been brewing for a while, which is anathema to the anti-authoritarian roots of our republic. |
It's funny how often Trump says Democrats would hate the precedent set. How we'd be furious if a Democrat President is impeached and investigated for colluding with a foreign power,breaking the law, and holding up Congressionally appropriated funds.
But I like thinking of the reverse. Seeing how Republicans would respond to Dems supporting an authoritarian President pushing forward progressive policy. They're lucky Dems don't fight fire with fire. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Huey Lewis & The News Star Player
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | slavavov wrote: |
Yes. Trump made straight white Evangelical males feel like an endangered species. Many Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have felt like that for a while, perhaps because the "others" have been doing better and better.
Imo it's also:
1. An attack on political correctness, which is either caused by racism or simply a feeling that the Dems don't care about straight white Christian men.
2. The undercurrent of authoritarianism in our nation that's been brewing for a while, which is anathema to the anti-authoritarian roots of our republic. |
It's funny how often Trump says Democrats would hate the precedent set. How we'd be furious if a Democrat President is impeached and investigated for colluding with a foreign power,breaking the law, and holding up Congressionally appropriated funds.
But I like thinking of the reverse. Seeing how Republicans would respond to Dems supporting an authoritarian President pushing forward progressive policy. They're lucky Dems don't fight fire with fire. |
Authoritarians always assume their enemies have the same authoritarian impulses. They can't imagine a world in which good people do good things for good reasons. It's partly how they justify their actions, thinking the other side has the same authoritarian impulses but with different political objectives.
Just today, Pelosi says she prays for Trump all the time. His response is to tweet that he doesn't believe her. In other words, he can't comprehend that other people might not be motivated by malice in everything they do.
So his fans then justify everything he does because they think a Democrat president would do the same, even though we just went through 8 years of a Democratic president who never displayed any of that behavior.
Of course, I'd be furious if a Democratic president colluded with foreign adversaries, corrupted the entire government, and constantly broke the law. I'd be furious to have enabled such a terrible president to be elected, and I'd support his impeachment. But Trump's base can't comprehend that because they think we're just like them, but on the other side of the political spectrum. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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eddiejonze Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Just wait until what Yang is predicting, which WILL happen, and automation will render about half of our jobs obsolete in the next 30 years....
I'll be considered a senior citizen by then but if we don't elect a Dem now, This angry Drumpf base that is jealous that the "educated's" have moved on to a better life will become straight up murderous like THE PURGE movies once all jobs will require an engineering degree at minimum. _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Why doesn't anyone mention the damage done to Ukraine
Can they also mention that Trump and Nunes already had a quid pro quo with the corrupt Ukrainian President before Zelensky
Zelensky (bleep) the corrupt prosecutor who was going to help Putin/Trump/Manafort
Zelensky is the (bleep) HERO in this situation
He didn't roll over but he's (bleep) because our legal system that overprotects our dirty Russian president could keep him in office until 2025
Ask him why he wants to frame Ukraine as evildoers in America's 2016 election?
So America can kick them to the curb and let Russia invade? |
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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eddiejonze wrote: | Just wait until what Yang is predicting, which WILL happen, and automation will render about half of our jobs obsolete in the next 30 years....
I'll be considered a senior citizen by then but if we don't elect a Dem now, This angry Drumpf base that is jealous that the "educated's" have moved on to a better life will become straight up murderous like THE PURGE movies once all jobs will require an engineering degree at minimum. |
How young do you think Trump voters are? |
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Huey Lewis & The News wrote: | to anyone who is right of center: what are our nation's top 5 problems? |
Can you define the Center? |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | kikanga wrote: | slavavov wrote: |
Yes. Trump made straight white Evangelical males feel like an endangered species. Many Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have felt like that for a while, perhaps because the "others" have been doing better and better.
Imo it's also:
1. An attack on political correctness, which is either caused by racism or simply a feeling that the Dems don't care about straight white Christian men.
2. The undercurrent of authoritarianism in our nation that's been brewing for a while, which is anathema to the anti-authoritarian roots of our republic. |
It's funny how often Trump says Democrats would hate the precedent set. How we'd be furious if a Democrat President is impeached and investigated for colluding with a foreign power,breaking the law, and holding up Congressionally appropriated funds.
But I like thinking of the reverse. Seeing how Republicans would respond to Dems supporting an authoritarian President pushing forward progressive policy. They're lucky Dems don't fight fire with fire. |
Authoritarians always assume their enemies have the same authoritarian impulses. They can't imagine a world in which good people do good things for good reasons. It's partly how they justify their actions, thinking the other side has the same authoritarian impulses but with different political objectives.
Just today, Pelosi says she prays for Trump all the time. His response is to tweet that he doesn't believe her. In other words, he can't comprehend that other people might not be motivated by malice in everything they do.
So his fans then justify everything he does because they think a Democrat president would do the same, even though we just went through 8 years of a Democratic president who never displayed any of that behavior.
Of course, I'd be furious if a Democratic president colluded with foreign adversaries, corrupted the entire government, and constantly broke the law. I'd be furious to have enabled such a terrible president to be elected, and I'd support his impeachment. But Trump's base can't comprehend that because they think we're just like them, but on the other side of the political spectrum. |
Just look at some of the bogus stuff conservatives say about us on the left. They think we're socialists (in a bad way, like the Soviet Union), they think we want to criminalize Christianity, that we literally want to kill conservatives and devout Christians, that the Democratic party is a crime syndicate, that we were the ones who colluded with Russia, that Obama and other Dems secretly support Muslim terrorists, etc.
Narcissists always project. And to make it worse, conservatives act like they're the ones who believe in liberty, and they call themselves "libertarians" although they're nothing like that. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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That was beautiful in a huge way
Read it earlier and kindness and Authenticity hits even the darkest of people
I hope some posters are made of these powerful women standing up for themselves and their fellow citizens so young girls can hang them in their rooms etc
"I pray for the President everyday!"
Fuk wit dat (bleep)
Has Fox news mentioned it? |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Biden's problems don't stem from his intelligence. They stem from his arrogance.
He's just so committed to his own hype that he can't observe the current political climate and adjust to it. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Scalise - who after he was shot received universal support and certainly many prayers from Nancy Pelosi - said that she "yelled" at the reporter. Classic misogyny. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: |
Biden's problems don't stem from his intelligence. They stem from his arrogance.
He's just so committed to his own hype that he can't observe the current political climate and adjust to it. |
Yeah, that was meant to be a rhetorical comment. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Scalise - who after he was shot received universal support and certainly many prayers from Nancy Pelosi - said that she "yelled" at the reporter. Classic misogyny. |
Not to mention the typical hypocrisy of the GOP . . . Trump has routinely treated members of the press in far more despicable fashion. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Scalise - who after he was shot received universal support and certainly many prayers from Nancy Pelosi - said that she "yelled" at the reporter. Classic misogyny. |
You'd think after a brush with death he might re-examine his life -- but no, he went right back to be against any kind of gun legislation, wanting to take healthcare away from others and supports kidnapping innocent children and locking them in cages. So he and the rest of the morally bankrupt Republican party can take their misogyny and shove it where the sun don't shine. |
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: |
Biden's problems don't stem from his intelligence. They stem from his arrogance.
He's just so committed to his own hype that he can't observe the current political climate and adjust to it. |
Yeah, that was meant to be a rhetorical comment. |
I was just clarifying for our friends on the Right (and those that claim they are "Independent" in an attempt to appear to distance themselves from Trump while in actuality they serve to advance him) who are easily confused by high concepts such as rhetoric.
_________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-outbreaks/mumps-other-outbreaks-force-us-detention-centers-to-quarantine-over-2000-migrants-idUSKBN1QR0EW
MARCH 10, 2019 / 6:11 AM / 9 MONTHS AGO
Mumps, other outbreaks force U.S. detention centers to quarantine over 2,000 migrants
Kid below died May 20. They knew he was very ill.
Quote: | The border patrol’s statement on the day of Carlos’ death says the teenager was “found unresponsive this morning during a welfare check”.
The video shows Carlos stopped moving at 1.39am on 20 May, 15 minutes after he toppled forward and landed face-first on the cell’s concrete floor. Border patrol logs say an agent performed a welfare check at 2.02am, 4.09am, and 5.05am.
Norma Jean Farley, the forensic pathologist who performed the autopsy, told ProPublica that she was told the agent looked through the window but didn’t go inside.
Police photos show a large pool of blood around Carlos’ head. |
theguardian.com
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/05/video-border-patrol-teen-death-us-immigration
The US won't provide flu vaccines to migrant families at border detention camps
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/20/the-us-wont-vaccinate-migrant-children-against-the-flu-at-border-camps.html
They said the U.S. death rate in children from the flu is about 1 in 600,000. So far, three children have died out of 200,000 people held at detention facilities along the border, they wrote.
^^^°How many are locked up? Wowza.
Before Trump
Quote: | The United States had previously gone almost a decade without any children dying while under U.S. immigration custody. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | kikanga wrote: | slavavov wrote: |
Yes. Trump made straight white Evangelical males feel like an endangered species. Many Republicans, especially Evangelicals, have felt like that for a while, perhaps because the "others" have been doing better and better.
Imo it's also:
1. An attack on political correctness, which is either caused by racism or simply a feeling that the Dems don't care about straight white Christian men.
2. The undercurrent of authoritarianism in our nation that's been brewing for a while, which is anathema to the anti-authoritarian roots of our republic. |
It's funny how often Trump says Democrats would hate the precedent set. How we'd be furious if a Democrat President is impeached and investigated for colluding with a foreign power,breaking the law, and holding up Congressionally appropriated funds.
But I like thinking of the reverse. Seeing how Republicans would respond to Dems supporting an authoritarian President pushing forward progressive policy. They're lucky Dems don't fight fire with fire. |
Authoritarians always assume their enemies have the same authoritarian impulses. They can't imagine a world in which good people do good things for good reasons. It's partly how they justify their actions, thinking the other side has the same authoritarian impulses but with different political objectives.
Just today, Pelosi says she prays for Trump all the time. His response is to tweet that he doesn't believe her. In other words, he can't comprehend that other people might not be motivated by malice in everything they do.
So his fans then justify everything he does because they think a Democrat president would do the same, even though we just went through 8 years of a Democratic president who never displayed any of that behavior.
Of course, I'd be furious if a Democratic president colluded with foreign adversaries, corrupted the entire government, and constantly broke the law. I'd be furious to have enabled such a terrible president to be elected, and I'd support his impeachment. But Trump's base can't comprehend that because they think we're just like them, but on the other side of the political spectrum. |
If you got a nickel every time we said "projection" in this thread. You'd be a very rich man. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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eddiejonze Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:12 am Post subject: |
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For being so dumb, Biden has figured out how to be smarter than Kamala harris...
Whoops!
I would have thought Harris was gonna be the next nominee, here on LG at least- after her bump from attacking Biden.
Who's the next candidate we're gonna prop up for having a witty zinger against poor ol Joe? _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:18 am Post subject: |
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eddiejonze wrote: | For being so dumb, Biden has figured out how to be smarter than Kamala harris...
Whoops!
I would have thought Harris was gonna be the next nominee, here on LG at least- after her bump from attacking Biden.
Who's the next candidate we're gonna prop up for having a witty zinger against poor ol Joe? |
I'm genuinely happy for you. You've supported Biden unfailingly for months now and I anticipated a post like this about 5 pages back.
kikanga"[quote="kikanga wrote: | Wilt wrote: | Kamala Harris is dropping out. |
I was so high on her after the 1st debate. Boy was I wrong. She couldn't defend her record AT ALL. She flip flopped on Medicare for All. And she couldn't get the small donors. I still find her likeable. But she just wasn't good enough. |
Because of your undying belief. I am skeptical of Pete's recent push. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | governator wrote: | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | How Every Senator Voted
Republicans
Rand Paul Ky.
N
Democrats
Doug Jones Ala.
Y
Joe Manchin III W.Va.
Y
Kyrsten Sinema Ariz.
Y
The vote for Bill Barr confirmation''''
People voted Yes to a man who had already written plenty of literature showing he was unfit to be Trump's AG
Was Rand Paul's no vote just for optics?
He made America far worse off and empowered Trump and all the (bleep) that comes with him.
Twice now he has been an imposter. Defrauding America's citizenry and the whole world with his lies and cover-ups
Now he.seems.to be loonier than Trump himself
These people must be removed at any cost |
would it be better to vote for a diff democrat senate candidates for those districts or let them play politics? |
I googled "Remove Joe Manchin now"
All the relevant sites filled with petitions
It is nice to see.only 3 voted yes.
It's just that his appointment felt like a conspiracy to me. Known illegal fixer gets reappointed to AG
To fix again
Like if aliens were ever found youd need an AG like Barr or Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
OR IF RUSSIANS HACKED our 2016 Election you'd need a fixer cover-up guy
He was also able to kill Epstein to help Trump and bigger families.
Yes, any Dem who voted Yes for Barr was too lazy to read up on his duties and is therefore unqualified to hold public office. |
That’s how I felt regarding Al Franken, we had to take the moral high ground over politics... I don’t know, not sure if it did anything having him removed, nothing’s changed, maybe I was wrong and should look the other way when Dems play politics (even at GOP level) |
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:29 am Post subject: |
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They only "believe" in that as long as the president is a Republican and they think the autocrat daddy will protect them while hurting others. If Obama were still president, or when the next Democrat wins, they will revert -- because they have no core principles other than racism, misogyny, bigotry, white supremacy, patriarchy, selfishness, fear and greed. |
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