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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: |
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And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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DC statehood made it out of House committee yesterday. Will make it out of the House floor soon. And it will die at Manchin's "protect the filibuster" feet. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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The strain of lying and the Oval Office has taken its toll on Pence. I hope he has a full recovery but karma has reared its beautiful head. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
And if the US intelligence had that paper-trail evidence and did not turn it over to the Mueller investigation then how is that not (further) obstruction by the Trump administration? _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
unfortunately it doesnt matter in regards to jailtime which is all that matters IMHO. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
Quote: | George Conway -at- gtconway3d
And there's no reason to believe the intelligence assessment released today wasn't available to the former guy when he issued this corrupt pardon (of Manafort). |
_________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
Quote: | George Conway ( a t ) gtconway3d
And there's no reason to believe the intelligence assessment released today wasn't available to the former guy when he issued this corrupt pardon (of Manafort). |
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would this be a new charge ? which wouldnt fall under pardon. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | SweetP wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
Quote: | George Conway ( a t ) gtconway3d
And there's no reason to believe the intelligence assessment released today wasn't available to the former guy when he issued this corrupt pardon (of Manafort). |
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would this be a new charge ? which wouldnt fall under pardon. |
I don't think so. Trump's pardon of Manafort was for everything done up until that moment (related to the Russian probe) I believe.
Trump pardoned Manafort for keeping his mouth shut about how the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians. Muller's team put Manafort in prison for many years based on his financial crimes when he wouldn't come clean about what he had done as Trump's campaign manager and then Trump pardoned him. Point is even if Trump wanted to claim he knew nothing of what Manafort was up to on his behalf, the intelligence was known to him after the fact and he still pardoned Manafort. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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SweetP Star Player
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Quote: | Manu Raju @mkraju
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert were the lone two members to vote against a bill that would reauthorize the National Marrow Donor Program, which matches bone marrow donors and cord blood units with patients who have leukemia and other diseases
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The gun nut gals are (bleep) idiots. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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We don’t really know what the entirety of manafort’s pardon was, or if there’s more than one (there was a lot of speculation about secret pardons). On the one hand we can speculate that any reasonably non moronic person would expect and get a pretty blanket pardon so there’s no chance he gets indicted again and rolls over. On the other, this was the most incompetent group of evildoers I’ve seen, so it’s possible they didn’t cross all the t’s. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | We don’t really know what the entirety of manafort’s pardon was, or if there’s more than one (there was a lot of speculation about secret pardons). On the one hand we can speculate that any reasonably non moronic person would expect and get a pretty blanket pardon so there’s no chance he gets indicted again and rolls over. On the other, this was the most incompetent group of evildoers I’ve seen, so it’s possible they didn’t cross all the t’s. |
This. They broke laws they didn't even know about, so it's possible that they left themselves exposed. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:20 am Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And in case anyone cares, more evidence came out today (from the US Treasury Department) that Trump campaign *colluded with Russia.*
They connected Manfort to Kilimnick to Russian Intelligence, which we all assumed (but Mueller couldn't prove) but now there's actual paper-trail evidence. |
Also wanted to point out that it is extremely likely one part of our government had this information all along and hid it from the Mueller investigation on Trump's orders. Can you say, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?
I know the former guy will never be charged, but he's a straight up American traitor and should be tried for treason and given the Rosenberg treatment. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | We don’t really know what the entirety of manafort’s pardon was, or if there’s more than one (there was a lot of speculation about secret pardons). On the one hand we can speculate that any reasonably non moronic person would expect and get a pretty blanket pardon so there’s no chance he gets indicted again and rolls over. On the other, this was the most incompetent group of evildoers I’ve seen, so it’s possible they didn’t cross all the t’s. |
Manafort also had other state level financial crimes the prosecution chose to omit from their original case. Those are still hanging out there and could be prosecuted by NY and theoretically not covered by federal pardon.
But really Manafort should be charged with treason (and people don't need to respond back with the technical definition of treason, blah blah blah). |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | We don’t really know what the entirety of manafort’s pardon was, or if there’s more than one (there was a lot of speculation about secret pardons). On the one hand we can speculate that any reasonably non moronic person would expect and get a pretty blanket pardon so there’s no chance he gets indicted again and rolls over. On the other, this was the most incompetent group of evildoers I’ve seen, so it’s possible they didn’t cross all the t’s. |
Manafort also had other state level financial crimes the prosecution chose to omit from their original case. Those are still hanging out there and could be prosecuted by NY and theoretically not covered by federal pardon.
But really Manafort should be charged with treason (and people don't need to respond back with the technical definition of treason, blah blah blah). |
Keep in mind that because he has no 5th amendment rights due to such pardons, he now can be forced to testify as to EVERYTHING .... AND, if he lies, he can still be up for perjury charges. Even with a pardon, he isn't completely in the clear. This is relevant to any potential indictments arising from the Muller probe against the President which have not yet been made. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Republican members of Congress Empty G and Paul Gosar are creating an "America First Caucus" that emphasizes "Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and infrastructure that "befits the progeny of European architecture"
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Quote: | Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar collaborated to form the far-right caucus, whose aim is to "follow in President Trump's footsteps, and potentially step on some toes and sacrifice sacred cows for the good of the American nation," according to a document obtained by Punchbowl News.
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is currently facing a federal sex-trafficking probe, announced his "proud" support for the group, tweeting, "We will end wars, stop illegal immigration & promote trade that is fair to American workers." Other Trump loyalists on Capitol Hill, like Reps. Barry Moore and Louie Gohmert, have also agreed to join the caucus, Punchbowl News reported.
The America First Caucus' mission statement also parroted many of Trump's lies about the 2020 election and voter fraud, saying, "Recent election results demonstrate a compromised integrity of our elections and made our election system a subject of global mockery."
The document's section on infrastructure said the caucus will "work towards an infrastructure that reflects the architectural, engineering and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of European architecture,"
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: | Republican members of Congress Empty G and Paul Gosar are creating an "America First Caucus" that emphasizes "Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and infrastructure that "befits the progeny of European architecture" |
White flour!
_________________ Garvey, Lopes, Cey, Russell |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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FernieBee wrote: | SweetP wrote: | Republican members of Congress Empty G and Paul Gosar are creating an "America First Caucus" that emphasizes "Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and infrastructure that "befits the progeny of European architecture" |
White flour!
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Subtle, they're not. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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Republicans just want to party like it’s 999. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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trmiv wrote: | Republicans just want to party like it’s 999. |
They are a people of the 20s...the 19, 18, 17, 1620s. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: | Republican members of Congress Empty G and Paul Gosar are creating an "America First Caucus" that emphasizes "Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and infrastructure that "befits the progeny of European architecture"
All the best people
Quote: | Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar collaborated to form the far-right caucus, whose aim is to "follow in President Trump's footsteps, and potentially step on some toes and sacrifice sacred cows for the good of the American nation," according to a document obtained by Punchbowl News.
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is currently facing a federal sex-trafficking probe, announced his "proud" support for the group, tweeting, "We will end wars, stop illegal immigration & promote trade that is fair to American workers." Other Trump loyalists on Capitol Hill, like Reps. Barry Moore and Louie Gohmert, have also agreed to join the caucus, Punchbowl News reported.
The America First Caucus' mission statement also parroted many of Trump's lies about the 2020 election and voter fraud, saying, "Recent election results demonstrate a compromised integrity of our elections and made our election system a subject of global mockery."
The document's section on infrastructure said the caucus will "work towards an infrastructure that reflects the architectural, engineering and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of European architecture,"
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You know, there was another famous group in history that espoused this exact dogma. American Nazi sympathizers who worshipped Hitler called themselves America First. They should just go ahead and call themselves Nazis. I know that's how I will be referring to them from here on out. The GOP Nazi Caucus. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Roger stone getting sued by doj is positive. Claiming he owes 2milli. Because of fraudulent llc or whatever it’s called. |
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SweetP Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | Roger stone getting sued by doj is positive. Claiming he owes 2milli. Because of fraudulent llc or whatever it’s called. |
These people live to crime so I am hoping DOJ goes after the worst of them for whatever they can. Manafort, Stone, Flynn, Nunes, DJT jr, Jared, Ivanka, Eric, Gaetz, Steven Miller, Mnuchin... as well as the big orange turd himself. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few, there are so many in the Trump orbit _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: | Republican members of Congress Empty G and Paul Gosar are creating an "America First Caucus" that emphasizes "Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and infrastructure that "befits the progeny of European architecture"
All the best people
Quote: | Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar collaborated to form the far-right caucus, whose aim is to "follow in President Trump's footsteps, and potentially step on some toes and sacrifice sacred cows for the good of the American nation," according to a document obtained by Punchbowl News.
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, who is currently facing a federal sex-trafficking probe, announced his "proud" support for the group, tweeting, "We will end wars, stop illegal immigration & promote trade that is fair to American workers." Other Trump loyalists on Capitol Hill, like Reps. Barry Moore and Louie Gohmert, have also agreed to join the caucus, Punchbowl News reported.
The America First Caucus' mission statement also parroted many of Trump's lies about the 2020 election and voter fraud, saying, "Recent election results demonstrate a compromised integrity of our elections and made our election system a subject of global mockery."
The document's section on infrastructure said the caucus will "work towards an infrastructure that reflects the architectural, engineering and aesthetic value that befits the progeny of European architecture,"
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America first ... by idolizing Europe ... but not current Europe cause current Europe is socialist and communist.
But past Europeans and their political traditions.
If our founding fathers loved anything it was European political and power structures. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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