IG is on point. People forget what Kobe had to deal with in Colorado and totally disregard the racial implications of the trial in 04. He didn't just deal with prosecutorial misconduct by the DA- he also dealt with a mob that presumed he was guilty solely because of his skin color. The games in Denver were brutal, but he always silenced the crowd in some way or form. Also want to point out the "victim" was taken more seriously, and the media gave her the benefit of the doubt the entire way through, despite all the holes in her story (see Dave Chapelle's skit on it).
The media made it infinitely worse. ESPN sided with the racists in Denver, and wrote hit piece after hit piece, with Shelly Smith leading the way. I think she's one of the few people who Kobe didn't forgive years later, because she was paramount in turning the mob against him.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say. Totally different from getting physical or spitting on players, which should be a bannable offense.
Do you know what the two fans said? You are judging LBJ without knowing what was said?
And it’s not LBJ who kicked them out. It was arena security and there are terms and conditions for each ticket to watch a game in person. Clearly they violated that or else they wouldn’t kick out paying fans.
IG is on point. People forget what Kobe had to deal with in Colorado and totally disregard the racial implications of the trial in 04. He didn't just deal with prosecutorial misconduct by the DA- he also dealt with a mob that presumed he was guilty solely because of his skin color. The games in Denver were brutal, but he always silenced the crowd in some way or form. Also want to point out the "victim" was taken more seriously, and the media gave her the benefit of the doubt the entire way through, despite all the holes in her story (see Dave Chapelle's skit on it).
The media made it infinitely worse. ESPN sided with the racists in Denver, and wrote hit piece after hit piece, with Shelly Smith leading the way. I think she's one of the few people who Kobe didn't forgive years later, because she was paramount in turning the mob against him.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say. Totally different from getting physical or spitting on players, which should be a bannable offense.
True. Some of this stuff happened both pre and post-Colorado. Til this day, I haven't forgotten what Woj, Jason Whitlock, Jamele Hill and the pundits said about Kobe. I know people have softened up on some of them, but (bleep) every single one of them.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:49 am Post subject:
KindCrippler2000 wrote:
IG is on point. People forget what Kobe had to deal with in Colorado and totally disregard the racial implications of the trial in 04. He didn't just deal with prosecutorial misconduct by the DA- he also dealt with a mob that presumed he was guilty solely because of his skin color. The games in Denver were brutal, but he always silenced the crowd in some way or form. Also want to point out the "victim" was taken more seriously, and the media gave her the benefit of the doubt the entire way through, despite all the holes in her story (see Dave Chapelle's skit on it).
The media made it infinitely worse. ESPN sided with the racists in Denver, and wrote hit piece after hit piece, with Shelly Smith leading the way. I think she's one of the few people who Kobe didn't forgive years later, because she was paramount in turning the mob against him.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say. Totally different from getting physical or spitting on players, which should be a bannable offense.
Did any of those fans say I hope your daughter dies in a Helicopter crash?
Sure they said (bleep) to Kobe about Kobe.. Psalm 27 was his response
IG is on point. People forget what Kobe had to deal with in Colorado and totally disregard the racial implications of the trial in 04. He didn't just deal with prosecutorial misconduct by the DA- he also dealt with a mob that presumed he was guilty solely because of his skin color. The games in Denver were brutal, but he always silenced the crowd in some way or form. Also want to point out the "victim" was taken more seriously, and the media gave her the benefit of the doubt the entire way through, despite all the holes in her story (see Dave Chapelle's skit on it).
The media made it infinitely worse. ESPN sided with the racists in Denver, and wrote hit piece after hit piece, with Shelly Smith leading the way. I think she's one of the few people who Kobe didn't forgive years later, because she was paramount in turning the mob against him.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say. Totally different from getting physical or spitting on players, which should be a bannable offense.
Did any of those fans say I hope your daughter dies in a Helicopter crash?
Sure they said (bleep) to Kobe about Kobe.. Psalm 27 was his response
Jazz fans are known to do stupid stuff and making death threats is something they like to do in a consistent basis. if the Laker fans were doing it to there own player... aka Danny Green, then the opposition fans are gonna be doing it any player they don’t like.
IG is on point. People forget what Kobe had to deal with in Colorado and totally disregard the racial implications of the trial in 04. He didn't just deal with prosecutorial misconduct by the DA- he also dealt with a mob that presumed he was guilty solely because of his skin color. The games in Denver were brutal, but he always silenced the crowd in some way or form. Also want to point out the "victim" was taken more seriously, and the media gave her the benefit of the doubt the entire way through, despite all the holes in her story (see Dave Chapelle's skit on it).
The media made it infinitely worse. ESPN sided with the racists in Denver, and wrote hit piece after hit piece, with Shelly Smith leading the way. I think she's one of the few people who Kobe didn't forgive years later, because she was paramount in turning the mob against him.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say. Totally different from getting physical or spitting on players, which should be a bannable offense.
Did any of those fans say I hope your daughter dies in a Helicopter crash?
Sure they said (bleep) to Kobe about Kobe.. Psalm 27 was his response
They said much, much worse, including racial slurs and calling him a rapist game after game. I hated those people with a vengeance, but I never thought kicking them out was a viable solution at all. Larry Nance also had to delete a tweet about Colarado, and Kobe was quick to forgive him. The thing with Kobe always that he shut them up with his play. The fans who hated him respected him for that.
Lebron's just a different breed. This isn't going to be the last time fans say these kinds of things. Part of being an athlete is learning how to deal with it, and not going on a power trip when things don't go your way.
Lebron is different because this era is different. You can’t say anything about anyone anymore or you get canceled. He’s just a product of todays environment. He’s not the first player of this era to have fans kicked out of a game, and won’t be the last.
People need to stop comparing older eras with today. Players are brought up to think and feel differently then past players. This is not a Lebron issue, it’s the world we live in now and there’s no going back
I would just say kids are off limits. Talk all you want about the player, but no one here can seriously think it’s all good for a fan to talk about someone’s young children. Especially saying you wished they died? I mean come on y’all, have to be some standards of decency that apply.
People here act like Lebron did not play during Kobe’s era… Lebron also came in the league as one of the most hated prospect kid. I remember his own Cavs team mates was talking trash about him when het got drafted by the Cavs. Been in the league for 19 years and you don’t think he has heard it all from all the fans?
We live in a very sensitive time right now when people/fans think they can say whatever they want and become famous for it. Trash talking is fine when it comes to the game or even the person you saying it to… But there is a borderline to it, specially when you start involving family death.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:58 pm Post subject:
cal1piggy wrote:
i am glad lbj got the fan kicked out. family members should be off limits.
Imagine saying something like that to Ron Artest. Do you really want to say something like that to someone as big as LeBron and just assume he won’t lose his temper? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
that was just a special performance by Lebron.. wow.. amazing close out.
just wished he didn't bother kicking out the fans.. just don't need the added negative drama around the team.
read a couple of comments from people who said they were at the game claiming she told Lebron that she hopes he dies in a car crash.
Now if this is true...I dont give a flying (bleep) somebody tell me that im personally throwing that person out..That (bleep) is downright evil and EVIL BEGONE!!
if true, that's a severe over reaction on Lebron's part... he needs to toughen up and tune those things out ... that's just being too sensitive.
I just can't handle it anymore, having to defend Lebron for people calling him a snowflake, ... just because some girl tells him a hypothetical situation that may never happen.
Kobe or MJ would have never done that. Kobe would have put up 50 and smiled at the couple every time down the floor. But Lebron is no Kobe or MJ.
This isn't a good look for Lebron in my opinion. I get fans saying stupid (bleep), but it sets a dangerous precedent for a player to kick out fans simply because he doesn't like what they have to say.
If you are worried about the "precedent" of players getting fans ejected for saying obnoxious things, you are many years too late.
I know at least two other current Lakers (Westbrook and Rondo) who have had fans ejected in the past.
The NBA has had official policies on fan conduct for years, including specific types of statements that could get fans ejected. On every stadium in the NBA, the seats near the court have little signs on them warning fans they could be ejected for verbal abuse of players or officials.
Now that we know the details of this incident, it's hard for me to imagine anyone who thinks Lebron was in the wrong here.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:20 pm Post subject:
I get that sports can be a very passionate experience, especially if you are there are at the game, and maybe you have some drinks or maybe some other substances You might do or say things that you wouldn't at work, at church, or in some other real life situation.
Despite game tickets being crazy expensive - paying $500-$2000 a pop for courtside seats doesn't give you the right to step out of line and do or say things that you couldn't do in any other public venue or life situation.
Personally, I don't do anything more than maybe boo a call I think the refs. got wrong. I remember being a teenager and getting really abusive at my high school basketball games. But I'm a grown-up now and I've learned how to conduct myself as an adult.
I'm a die hard Laker fan, so naturally I hate the Celtics. But if I was at a game, I would not swear at Tatum or any of the players. Now if it was Danny Ainge, maybe, jk. Players are people, and demeaning them only demeans yourself. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions!
When he started saying he watched the film, I was expecting him to say something like, he was embarrassed by the way he behaved, apologize to his teammates that his behavior caused him to be out for 2 games, etc. But nope, his thought after watching the film is that he didn’t think it was an accident, SMH.
When he started saying he watched the film, I was expecting him to say something like, he was embarrassed by the way he behaved, apologize to his teammates that his behavior caused him to be out for 2 games, etc. But nope, his thought after watching the film is that he didn’t think it was an accident, SMH.
Why are you guys giving this guy attention? He is a no body.. probably 80% of NBA fans don’t even know he is, let him chew himself up.
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