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ringfinger
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| Beir32 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | It is unacceptable he only scores 4 points in this game. |
Double the output of Danny Green who took more shots and makes more than 7x what Kuz does. |
He is garbage too, but nobody expects DG to be our 3rd best option. Kuzma is on rookie contract trying to get a large one, he should have way more incentive to play better |
He doesn’t get the ball and they don’t run plays for him.
You think he should be running point? |
I think he should be playing defense at least. |
Sure. But he’s also not a great defender.
We aren’t using him correctly at all. He’s not someone we should be trading IMO. He’s well worth the vet min he is being paid.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Ship him out |
Wrong Laker. |
I'd take 2008-2012 Bynum over Kuzma.
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mad55557777
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| MJST wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Ship him out |
Wrong Laker. |
I'd take 2008-2012 Bynum over Kuzma. |
The healthy one or the injuries one? |
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AllorNothing
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Ship him out |
Wrong Laker. |
I'd take 2008-2012 Bynum over Kuzma. |
The healthy one or the injuries one? |
Either one probably more impactful. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Ship him out |
Wrong Laker. |
I'd take 2008-2012 Bynum over Kuzma. |
We can’t trade 2008-2012 Bynum.
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I'm ready to move on from Malibu Barbie. I think we've seen all we need to see from him.
If he stays, I hope he proves me wrong. |
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2019
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
Why would you want to trade him at his lowest possible value?
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
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ringfinger
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
Which vet min player should we trade him for?
Or are we talking 2nd round pick?
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StoicChalice392
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
yup. No handles. Can't create to save his ass. |
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Wvc0925
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| Weak bench player overhyped by laker media and fanboys |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
Which vet min player should we trade him for?
Or are we talking 2nd round pick? |
Why are you under the impression that it has to be a min player?
That is not how things work. You can add salary fillers fyi.. or maybe that perspective works for you since you are a fan of kylie kuzma. |
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cencio_999
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I don't believe that we can take the risk of facing the playoff with kuzma.
Our window for a title is small, and probably next year will be even harder, with lbj 1 year older and nets and maybe warriors back in the contenders picture.
Nothing seen so far suggests the kuzma play can elevate in the playoff, rather the opposite.
So let's trade him, and that's it. |
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BigBoi
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Ship him out |
Wrong Laker. |
I'd take 2008-2012 Bynum over Kuzma. |
The healthy one or the injuries one? |
Either one probably more impactful. |
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| scout0_0 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
Which vet min player should we trade him for?
Or are we talking 2nd round pick? |
Why are you under the impression that it has to be a min player?
That is not how things work. You can add salary fillers fyi.. or maybe that perspective works for you since you are a fan of kylie kuzma. |
Kylie??? OMG even I couldn’t have come up with that. Kudos to you my friend  people think it’s hate when you’re just cracking jokes |
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ringfinger
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| scout0_0 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
Which vet min player should we trade him for?
Or are we talking 2nd round pick? |
Why are you under the impression that it has to be a min player?
That is not how things work. You can add salary fillers fyi.. or maybe that perspective works for you since you are a fan of kylie kuzma. |
You don't need to add salary fillers to ride the trade Kuzma train. You can move just him right now, to any team in the league, with ease.
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PayasoLoco
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| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | scout0_0 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | He's a few more games away from me joining the trade Kuz train. |
i joined already. he is trash.
if his shot is not falling he provides nothing |
Which vet min player should we trade him for?
Or are we talking 2nd round pick? |
Why are you under the impression that it has to be a min player?
That is not how things work. You can add salary fillers fyi.. or maybe that perspective works for you since you are a fan of kylie kuzma. |
You don't need to add salary fillers to ride the trade Kuzma train. You can move just him right now, to any team in the league, with ease. |
Clarkson without the shot creating ability. Send him to cleveland or sac so he can get his "shine" |
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calistrtballr
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| We need a wesley matthews/covington badly |
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KindCrippler2000
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lol @ Kuz being the scapegoat for the team's problems.
He's a symptom of the problem. He's not the problem. |
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NBAFAN24
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| Wvc0925 wrote: | | Weak bench player overhyped by laker media and fanboys |
^^^This
Kuzma is the future face of the Lakers. Kuzma is a future all-star. Kuzma is a franchise player. |
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cheesehead88
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| ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | It is unacceptable he only scores 4 points in this game. |
Double the output of Danny Green who took more shots and makes more than 7x what Kuz does. |
He is garbage too, but nobody expects DG to be our 3rd best option. Kuzma is on rookie contract trying to get a large one, he should have way more incentive to play better |
He doesn’t get the ball and they don’t run plays for him.
You think he should be running point? |
This is actually the only option the Lakers have left right now
Saw Vogel use a lot of lineups with Kuz, AD, Bron last night
Usually Bradley, Defensive Demon, Rondo, KCP, Green manning the two perimeter spots
Of those five only KCP and Defensive Demon provided anything
All three of Rondo, Green, Bradley should be demoted
Bradley should come off the bench if the Lakers are winning to provide ball pressure to protect leads
Rondo should be at the very end of the bench
Green simply cannot guard small forwards (like Tobias Harris) or perimeter players with speed/power (Westbrook)
So Green needs to go to the bench too with Bradley
Defensive Demon and KCP should start if you want traditional lineups
If think Kuzma has “anything at all” left in the tank at the “geriatric age of 24”
Can start Kuzma and Bron in the backcourt with a front court of AD, McGee, Dwight
This would provide “physicality” that we need
Post up Kuzma or Bron on the smallest defender on the other team
Pound them
If get into foul trouble so what?
That’s when you bring in your little guys and shooters.
If Lakers behind bring in Cook and Daniels for offense
If Lakers ahead bring in Green and Bradley for defense
Gilbert Arenas suggested it during the summer
In a five out lineup. Bron or AD/ Bron or Kuzma go to the corners
McGee/Dwight would be setting staggered screens/ rolling/ crashing the offensive glass
https://www.google.com/amp/s/lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/10/11/gilbert-arenas-suggests-lakers-use-big-lineup-that-would-kill/amp/
“LeBron at the point, Kuzma at the two,” Arenas said. “Anthony Davis at the three. You can go JaVale and Dwight. In hindsight you’d be like, ‘Oh, they’d get killed.'”
Arenas added that the Lakers wouldn’t run into matchup problems anywhere, particularly on defense. He mentioned how with the lineup’s size, other teams would struggle trying to find shots.
“On defense you got all 6’10 (sic) and above just locking down,” Arenas said. “Play like a zone type and just say ‘Oh, go to the basket.’ You got five freak athletes jumping trying to block that shot.” |
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https://www.fr24news.com/2020/01/at-the-request-of-rajon-rondo-kyle-kuzma-slows-down-russell-westbrook-in-the-lakers-victory.html
"Rondo sort of pulled me sideways at half-time in the locker room and just asked me if I could keep it, and I said," Sure, "said Kuzma. "Westbrook really hurt us in the first half, posting our guards, and it's just hard, it's a tough load. He's a big, strong, physical guard. In the second half, this stuff was eliminated, putting a bigger body on top of it. "
Kuzma was asked to elaborate on his defensive game plan against the former quintessential player.
"Keep it right in front," he said. “I am confident in myself defensively. Just try to keep it in front, take hard shots and just not at fault. These guys are looking for faults. And if you keep them off the line, it bodes well enough for you. " |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | It is unacceptable he only scores 4 points in this game. |
Double the output of Danny Green who took more shots and makes more than 7x what Kuz does. |
And is also over half a decade older. But justify away.
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| Beir32 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | It is unacceptable he only scores 4 points in this game. |
Double the output of Danny Green who took more shots and makes more than 7x what Kuz does. |
He is garbage too, but nobody expects DG to be our 3rd best option. Kuzma is on rookie contract trying to get a large one, he should have way more incentive to play better |
He doesn’t get the ball and they don’t run plays for him.
You think he should be running point? |
I think he should be playing defense at least. |
Or rebounding. Of course they aren’t going to run plays for him, he isn’t that good. How many plays did we run for DFish? Or how many plays were run for prime Danny Green? Yet both contributed to winning. The difference is IQ and effort.
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