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| Lakerz113 wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
Damm I am tht fan but u might be right here...
Tht for life... |
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| LGFan wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
Damm I am tht fan but u might be right here...
Tht for life... |
lol it’s clear now, the sad part is you never know what is sarcasm on this thread. |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
I agree.
It's not like we're fawning over a zubac level player |
And Zu is a fine young role-player!
The bottom line is that outside of the elite shooters, NBA stars have to get to the rim and finish and THT does so at an elite level at age 20. He's not a PG, but he clearly knows how to pass, he rebounds very well for a guard, and he's a pain in the ass as an on-ball defender because of his freakish dimensions.
If he shoots, he's a star.
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| panamaniac wrote: | | Lonzo would be a smarter investment over Russ. Better fit and is actually a solid building block post LeBron. |
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You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
If clones of prime Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant emerged from a hidden cryo freeze container. And they both came to us asking to sign at the vet min.
I'd ask them if they are willing to come off the bench. Don't need those scrubs taking important minutes from THT's development.
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| 32 wrote: | | The THT situation is very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out. |
Agreed. Especially since we have yet to trade a Klutch player away. |
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| 2019 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
So was Whitey McFord
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
It's all about home grown talent.
If a player didn't come out of the soil of my mom's garden wearing a Lakers jersey. And it has to be the side of the garden closest to the back door. I don't want them on our squad. It's the only way I'll be satisfied with another championship.
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For christ sakes, there goes another one....
Will you guys cut it out..I can’t keep buying a new one.
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| DLaker wrote: | Please revised if wrong.
Let say we go after RW, sign and trade DS, Montrez and a pick possible without giving up THT, Kuz?
Reason being is we can sign THT and Caruso and still sign a mid level without triggering the hard cap. Then we can sign as many vet min players we want.
LBJ, AD, RS, KCP, Kuz
THT, Caruso, Mark, Mid lvl, and rest vet min.
Is this possible under the cap? |
A trade for Russ or Cp3 (opted into PO) will not trigger the hard cap. They both make roughly the same amount 44m+ and we would need to send out a minimum of 35.3m in aggregated salary.
S&t using Schro is a max of 19.2m (if he agrees to that specific amount being his yr1 salary) otherwise it’s 16m (anything higher than 19.2m and pretty much up to his max of 33.7m). It’s cause if BYC, it’s complicated...it’s been explained here: http://www.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=191415
But let’s just say it’s most likely 16m due to Schro not settling on that 19.2m price point. Trez opted in comes in at 9.7m. So at 25.7m with those two aggregated, we need an additional 9.6m in salary to add to that package. Marc/McKinnie (fully guaranteed)/#22S&t’d comes out to 7.1m. So we’re still short around 2.5m.
That’s why Kuz, Kcp, THT S&t’d (BYC) or AC S&t’d (BYC) is necessary to add to a Schro S&t (BYC).
But once Russ or Cp3’s deal hits our books, we can go crazy on vet mins after we exhaust the miniMLE...the apron can’t stop us! |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | The THT situation is very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out. |
Agreed. Especially since we have yet to trade a Klutch player away. |
Sorry we not trading rich man's MJ...err tht |
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| kikanga wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
It's all about home grown talent.
If a player didn't come out of the soil of my mom's garden wearing a Lakers jersey. And it has to be the side of the garden closest to the back door. I don't want them on our squad. It's the only way I'll be satisfied with another championship. |
Our fanbase has needed a culling for years now.
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| LGFan wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | The THT situation is very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out. |
Agreed. Especially since we have yet to trade a Klutch player away. |
Sorry we not trading rich man's MJ...err tht |
Have we even parted with a klutch player ? We are running it back. |
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| LGFan wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
Damm I am tht fan but u might be right here...
Tht for life... |
If it were up to me, I would waive everyone else on the roster and have him go 1 on 5. Surest path to a ring. He's that good. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
You think just because no one in NBA history has ever averaged 15 apg per season that THT can't be the first one to do it?
Ye of little faith. I am predicting a peak of 65-42-25 for him on 98%-83%-102% shooting. |
Damm I am tht fan but u might be right here...
Tht for life... |
If it were up to me, I would waive everyone else on the roster and have him go 1 on 5. Surest path to a ring. He's that good. |
Ok..we get it let’s not derail this thread more than it is. |
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| 2019 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
Yeah, "all star" isn't a great shorthand for how good a player is.
I mean, good for Russell for making one all-star team as an injury replacement but he's really nothing more than an average NBA starting point guard.
As you note, all-stars have included nothing special guys like Chris Gatling, Mehmet Okur, BJ Armstrong, Roy Hibbert, and James Donaldson. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
Yeah, "all star" isn't a great shorthand for how good a player is.
I mean, good for Russell for making one all-star team as an injury replacement but he's really nothing more than an average NBA starting point guard.
As you note, all-stars have included nothing special guys like Chris Gatling, Mehmet Okur, BJ Armstrong, Roy Hibbert, and James Donaldson. |
What the (bleep) is wrong with you people?
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THT makes the All-Star team as an alternate for an injured player:
Me, a savvy LG.com poster: "He's clearly the next Devin Ebanks. He should be traded for Corey Joseph asap."
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
Yeah, "all star" isn't a great shorthand for how good a player is.
I mean, good for Russell for making one all-star team as an injury replacement but he's really nothing more than an average NBA starting point guard.
As you note, all-stars have included nothing special guys like Chris Gatling, Mehmet Okur, BJ Armstrong, Roy Hibbert, and James Donaldson. |
What the (bleep) is wrong with you people? |
What, do you really think that D'angelo Russell is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack NBA starting point guard? I don't. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
Yeah, "all star" isn't a great shorthand for how good a player is.
I mean, good for Russell for making one all-star team as an injury replacement but he's really nothing more than an average NBA starting point guard.
As you note, all-stars have included nothing special guys like Chris Gatling, Mehmet Okur, BJ Armstrong, Roy Hibbert, and James Donaldson. |
What the (bleep) is wrong with you people? |
What, do you really think that D'angelo Russell is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack NBA starting point guard? I don't. |
Yes, I think he's much better than Derrick Caracter and Jamaal Magloire ever were and better than Dennis Schröder has ever been or ever will be.
So why would I trade THT like he's Darius Miles?
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: |
What, do you really think that D'angelo Russell is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack NBA starting point guard? I don't. |
Yes, I think he's much better than Derrick Caracter and Jamaal Magloire ever were and better than Dennis Schröder has ever been or ever will be.
So why would I trade THT like he's Darius Miles? |
I found your response full of non-sequitors.
I was discussing how valid making an all-star team was as a shorthand for how good a player is.
Since you were the one who used this shorthand, I asked you whether you thought D'angelo Russell was more than a middle-of-the-pack point guard.
I don't see what that has to do with how Russell compares to Derrick Caracter or Magloire, or with THT and Darius Miles. I agree Russell is better than Schroder, but I would consider Schroder around 25-30 of the 30 starting point guards.
The question is if you were going to rank all 30 NBA starting point guards, where would you put Russell? For me, he's about 15th or so -- middle of the pack. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: |
What, do you really think that D'angelo Russell is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack NBA starting point guard? I don't. |
Yes, I think he's much better than Derrick Caracter and Jamaal Magloire ever were and better than Dennis Schröder has ever been or ever will be.
So why would I trade THT like he's Darius Miles? |
I found your response full of non-sequitors.
I was discussing how valid making an all-star team was as a shorthand for how good a player is.
Since you were the one who used this shorthand, I asked you whether you thought D'angelo Russell was more than a middle-of-the-pack point guard.
I don't see what that has to do with how Russell compares to Derrick Caracter or Magloire, or with THT and Darius Miles. I agree Russell is better than Schroder, but I would consider Schroder around 25-30 of the 30 starting point guards.
The question is if you were going to rank all 30 NBA starting point guards, where would you put Russell? For me, he's about 15th or so -- middle of the pack. |
Awesome! Good for DLo!
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| pjiddy wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | The THT situation is very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out. |
Agreed. Especially since we have yet to trade a Klutch player away. |
I don’t expect they will trade Tucker. It’s incredibly hard to find a prospect with his combination of talents outside the lottery (and even then).
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: |
What, do you really think that D'angelo Russell is anything more than a middle-of-the-pack NBA starting point guard? I don't. |
Yes, I think he's much better than Derrick Caracter and Jamaal Magloire ever were and better than Dennis Schröder has ever been or ever will be.
So why would I trade THT like he's Darius Miles? |
I found your response full of non-sequitors.
I was discussing how valid making an all-star team was as a shorthand for how good a player is.
Since you were the one who used this shorthand, I asked you whether you thought D'angelo Russell was more than a middle-of-the-pack point guard.
I don't see what that has to do with how Russell compares to Derrick Caracter or Magloire, or with THT and Darius Miles. I agree Russell is better than Schroder, but I would consider Schroder around 25-30 of the 30 starting point guards.
The question is if you were going to rank all 30 NBA starting point guards, where would you put Russell? For me, he's about 15th or so -- middle of the pack. |
Awesome! Good for DLo! |
No worries. I understand why you are avoiding the question. Be well. |
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PGs I'd definitely take over DLO:
Steph
Lillard
Kyrie
Westbrook
CP3
Jrue
Conley
Lowry
Luka
Trae
Ja
Ben Simmons
Jamal Murray
SGA
That's 14. Beyond that it gets interesting. He's in the Brogdon, De'Aaron Fox range. Arguments could be made for LiMelo as well. And if Lowry leaves. Fred VanVleet is in play as well.
Kemba and Wall can't stay healthy. So they're DQ'd.
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