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Kobetan Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | 32 wrote: | In that Times piece, it sounds like Gasol may not be back. |
That's honestly fine by me. He's a statue. I liked our identity better with mobile players on the floor, including bigs. His shooting is nice but I just think overall he wasn't the best fit, given his severe mobility issues at this stage of his career. |
His playmaking was huge. At least we have Russ now |
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hydrohead Star Player
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ChickenStu wrote: | 32 wrote: | In that Times piece, it sounds like Gasol may not be back. |
That's honestly fine by me. He's a statue. I liked our identity better with mobile players on the floor, including bigs. His shooting is nice but I just think overall he wasn't the best fit, given his severe mobility issues at this stage of his career. |
AD starting the the 5 if Gasol is gone. _________________ Darvin |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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roger_federer wrote: | Are we looking to create history by creating aroster with no shooters?
We shipped KCP and Kuz. Now Gasol? And we are planning to not get caruso bach but bring THT. |
Nice use of "we".
I knew you were a Lakers fan. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Still holding out hope we can get a good player back for Dennis is an S&T. Or at the very least a Trade Exception. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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MIMLaker Franchise Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 10015 Location: Los Angeles/ Alhambra, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming we don't get Hield, I could see us going this route:
C -
1 - Gasol -need the spacing
2 - Dwight - can only offer vet min, but Rob will try
3 - McGee - again vet min only, but we need the length. (If he'd come for cheap, I'd love Nerlens Noel instead of McGee for younger legs and more mobility on D.)
PF -
1 - AD -more at C late, but still here for now
2 - Kieff - bring him back with Early Bird raise
3 - Melo - too many reports for it not to happen - vet min only
SF -
1 - LBJ - duh
2 - Matthews - vet min raise only, but we need his D.
SG -
1 - Bullock - throw the MLE at him and it's still 40% raise from what he had last year. Guy hit 40% on 6 att/gm playing next to Randle. Imagine what he can do here. Also swings up to SF to play next to Russ.
2 - Avery Bradley - Can totally see him coming back. Imagine unleashing him and AC on defensive attack mode. Plus, knows Vogel's rotations, so that will help.
PG -
1 - Brodie - Mamba ferocity in D-Wade's body. Yikes.
2 - Caruso - When Russ sits, he'll be at "point" opposite LBJ. I expect he'll signa 4-ytear for total between $35 and $42M.
3 - THT - Our No. 4 playmaker - not going anywhere. Also probably a 4-year deal sim. to AC.
Really don't want to sign Rudy Gay due to his age and because his 3-pt % craters every other year - and this next year is scheduled to be his down year. (Seriously, look it up. It's like how every other Star Trek movie used to suck.)
The roster above is already at 13 players. I don't see McKinnie coming back... and I think Dudz may be on the way out, too. I see Rob leaving that 14th slot open for the occasional call-up for Ayayi or Reaves, or for one last FA buyout at the end of the year if we need wing help or someone for injury replacement.
If, if, IF we get Hield and it doesn't involve role players coming over from the Wizards or Bulls or something, then I hope the MLE slot gets filled by JaMychal Green instead so we can get some relative youth/ defensive versatility at the forward spots.
Could also end up being filled by Cory Joseph as our annual sacrifice to the Klutch Gods in lieu of KCP. |
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Kobetan Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Still holding out hope we can get a good player back for Dennis is an S&T. Or at the very least a Trade Exception. |
Speak it into existence!! |
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BlueNGold Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-07-31/nba-free-agency-lakers-clippers-options |
Quote: | BT: The Lakers need shooting. One name that is coming up is Patty Mills. He can shoot the lights out and would be great off the bench. Wayne Ellington is another shooter who has interest in rejoining the Lakers. Trevor Ariza and Andre Iguodala are veteran wings who are candidates. Carmelo Anthony is interested, just waiting on a call from the Lakers when free agency opens Monday. Guess who might be back for a third time? Yup, Dwight Howard is ready to return and play center. Jeff Green and Goran Dragic also are names to look out for. |
I like the Dwight mention |
What a treasure trove of info this is.
This article makes it sound like Ellington, Melo, and Dwight will definitely be on the way.
Mills, Gay (if at all possible), Green, and Dragic would be EXCELLENT pickups, though that all but squeezes Caruso out. I know that is under the assumption that everyone and their brother takes the vet minimum, but man, what a thought that is.
Speaking of Caruso, I saw it mentioned earlier, but he'd be one that I think would absolutely agree to a S&T. Whereas Dennis is an egotistical douchebag, Bald Mamba strikes me as someone who is extremely proud of his time as a Laker.
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kobetan wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | 32 wrote: | In that Times piece, it sounds like Gasol may not be back. |
That's honestly fine by me. He's a statue. I liked our identity better with mobile players on the floor, including bigs. His shooting is nice but I just think overall he wasn't the best fit, given his severe mobility issues at this stage of his career. |
His playmaking was huge. At least we have Russ now |
Everyone has their preferences, and I realize that he does have some skill that he brought to the table. But for me, I just didn't like the fit. One of those cases where even if defensive analytics didn't hate what he did (far from it), my eye test didn't like it lol. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | So it looks like the Goran Dragic to Lakers talk I posted today was real.. Iโm becoming a Insider these days haha |
DS S&T for opting in Dragic works, heโll take KCP role or THTโs back up, whichever
If we can get Jeff Green, heโll replace Kuzma
Then Dwight for Trez
Then the shooters, Melo, Mills, Ellington |
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible to S&T Dennis for Dragic and Igoudala? |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Is it possible to S&T Dennis for Dragic and Igoudala? | if heat max Dennis lol |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Does anyone have access to the LA Times? Dan Woike is reporting that the Lakers getting JJ Reddick is a real possibility. |
You have a way with words... does it sound like "REAL POSSIBILITY"?
DW: BT mentions some interesting names that Iโve heard as well. I think Jeff Green would be an ideal fit as a floor-spacer. Same goes for Wayne Ellington. Iโd keep an eye on JJ Redick. Torrey Craig had a really nice postseason and showed his versatility as a defender. Patty Mills would be a perfect instant-offense kind of player and someone whose defensive shortcomings could be overcome with someone like Anthony Davis behind him. Garrett Temple is the kind of player who inevitably ends up as a target for contenders looking for high-character, low-drama help. |
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BlueNGold Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I am of the belief that we will have the oldest team in NBA history this year |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Is it possible to S&T Dennis for Dragic and Igoudala? | if heat max Dennis lol |
Heat hold team options. Could be let go to make room for Lowry _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Is it possible to S&T Dennis for Dragic and Igoudala? | if heat max Dennis lol |
I think they would rather max Lowry lol |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff Green? He played really well for the Nets. Surprised he is available. I would gladly take him. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Kobetan wrote: | Haven't been following the 76ers, how did Dwight do backing up Joel??
Is he still Dwight-ish? |
Not bad for a backup center. I googled, โNF YouTube Dwight Howard 2021โ
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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this sounds pretty good
mills/tht/caruso
wb/ellington/mathews
lbj/gay/ariza or mckinnie or green
ad/melo/morris
dwight/gasol/dieng?
small lineup
mills
ellington or tht
wb
lbj
ad
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | governator wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Is it possible to S&T Dennis for Dragic and Igoudala? | if heat max Dennis lol |
I think they would rather max Lowry lol |
Actually, we need Vas to confirm the $ cause if heat sign Schroeder, theyโll be hard capped so theyโll need to shed salaries, surely wouldnโt mind picking up those two at all |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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That Evan Massey guy is reporting that Buddy Hield to the Lakers could still happen
https://mobile.twitter.com/massey_evan/status/1421659568552169478
Iโm posting it cause heโs been right on a few stuff lately
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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BlueNGold wrote: | I am of the belief that we will have the oldest team in NBA history this year |
Could be haha
I hope we can beat out the bulls for oldest team to win a ring.
Quote: | 1997-98 Chicago Bulls
Weighted Age (WAGE): 32.096
Oldest Player: Dennis Rodman (37) |
But I think AD, THT, Alex and the rookies will keep us below that. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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His tweet says
Quote: | but nothing to report there either. |
_________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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IG I'm reporting...with 100% certainty the sun will rise tomorrow!!!
Plus my sauces said it's a guarantee the Lakers will announce something on Monday!!! |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah guys I saw the last paragraph |
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have a feeling Dwight Howard, Danny Green, Avery Bradley will be back as they try to get that old chemistry back that we lacked last year. Then I see Matthews, Caruso, THT, Morris, and McLemore back. As for Schroder I think heโs sign and traded to the team that misses out on Lowry, Ball, Dinwiddie. Knicks, Bulls, Heat, Mavs will be an odd man out. My guess is Ball to the Knicks, Lowry to the Heat, Dinwiddie to the Wizards, Rose to the Bulls, Conley to the Jazz. Mavs may get Dragic but I could see them liking Schroder because heโs younger but Dragic could end up in Dallas. Other teams in need of a PG are the Clippers, Celtics, Wolves those 3 teams donโt have cap tho and not sure have players either to give us. I wouldnโt be shocked if Schroder is just back on the team. Playing again behind Westbrook and back to where heโs best 6th man so it wouldnโt be that bad having him back. And we get him for what we offered before maybe even less.
Westbrook - Schroder - Caruso
Green - THT - Bradley
James - Matthews - McLemore
Davis - Melo - Morris
Gasol - Howard
Or could be
Westbrook
Schroder
Green
James
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