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LakerDynasty6.0 Star Player
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Melo is the litmus test: no melo --> All good
One advantage i see of the "power of Lebron" is in directly talking with other FAs (something Magic or Rob can't do). We'll get a second max for sure (btw, nice try KD, blowing hot-air) _________________ Starting Lakers Dynasty6.0! NOW!!
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Staccatos Star Player
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Does Bron even lift? |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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50,000 Volts...! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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rmonkey Starting Rotation
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How much would he like? |
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Wino Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | Melo is the litmus test: no melo --> All good
One advantage i see of the "power of Lebron" is in directly talking with other FAs (something Magic or Rob can't do). We'll get a second max for sure (btw, nice try KD, blowing hot-air) |
Yep, couple of good points here. I do NOT want Melo in any way, the man seems to refuse to play defense. On top of that, he has a huge ego and becomes a problem in every place he has played. Don't want him.
And KD is blowing a bunch of BS hot-air for sure. My response, at this point, is F him, don't even want him anymore. The man dissed Westbrook and went to GS to play with the best team in the league. Want to talk about TOXIC BS just look at Durant!! Even his own team mate called him out and told him to shut his pie hole.
I do think KD is a great player but he seems to be a bit of a blow hard IMHO. Would rather have someone more willing to be a part of a team. He wants to hurt the Lakers, let us instead figure out a way to make him sorry. _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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oldlakerfan Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:27 am Post subject: |
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He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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cal1piggy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
Randle would’ve been very happy? And you know this because...? _________________ Tacos |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
Randle would’ve been very happy? And you know this because...? |
12m + 4.45m = 16.45m for 1 year contract
9m x 2 years = 18m for 2 year contract
which contract would you like more? |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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cal1piggy wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
Randle would’ve been very happy? And you know this because...? |
12m + 4.45m = 16.45m for 1 year contract
9m x 2 years = 18m for 2 year contract
which contract would you like more? |
But I’m not Randle, and if you follow the reports, Randle wasn’t interested in more lucrative deals. He had his sights already set on New Orleans.
Quote: | “There were more lucrative deals on the table that will allow Randle to re-enter free agency next summer if he chooses. But make no mistake, he views New Orleans as the place he wants to be long term. That’s one of the main reasons he decided to sign with them.”
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https://theathletic.com/497756/2018/09/05/julius-randle-just-getting-started-in-new-orleans-after-hard-learned-lessons/ _________________ Tacos |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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cal1piggy wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
Randle would’ve been very happy? And you know this because...? |
12m + 4.45m = 16.45m for 1 year contract
9m x 2 years = 18m for 2 year contract
which contract would you like more? |
And he wanted more than 1 year though.
The real culprit is the Deng deal. Even stretched it could have been used for Jules. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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cal1piggy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
we could have given 12m + a little more for 1 year (e.g. lance $) to randle and he would have been very happy |
According to reports, Randle asked the Lakers to renounce him because (1) he was concerned that his role would change dramatically this year and (2) the Lakers weren't willing to make a long term commitment to him.
I don't see any basis for your guess that Randle would have been happy with a one-year deal from us. My guess is he would have foregone a little extra money from the Lakers for a chance to showcase himself with New Orleans and sign a big deal with someone else next year, which now could happen. He didn't want to be a placeholder while we tried to get a max free agent. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | oldlakerfan wrote: | He had enough power so that we got stuck with KCP and Lost out on Randle.
Really poor decision but he is a great player. |
This isn't accurate.
KCP's deal is a placeholder for the 2019 max FA.
So unless you are not a fan of pursuing a max FA (KD, KL, Klay, etc.), then KCP/LBJ are not the culprits. Jules wanted at least a 2nd year (rightfully so) and got one with the Pels. That would have precluded a 2019 max FA (unless the team salary dumped him for nothing which adds more work and was probably something that Jules didn't want). |
Or if Julius opts out for a bigger long term deal, which likely is what will happen. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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