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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:44 pm    Post subject: RIP payless shoe stores

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/business/payless-closing-stores-bankrupt/index.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:56 pm    Post subject:

not sure what their quality was like in recent decades....but if it was like it was when I was a kid, this is a win for feet everywhere.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:11 am    Post subject:

oh man, this is where I get Shaq's dunkman shoes over the years
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:48 am    Post subject:

That’s 2100 stores in the US, with all the retail workers from each store, plus management, Etc. Manufacturing was the first domino to fall in the automation/ai/internet revolution. Retail, trucking/drivers, contact center workers and clerical workers are next. Followed by professional jobs, lawyers, doctors, etc.

I also posted about this in the political thread, but McKinsey projects 1/3 of American jobs will be eliminated because of these forces in the next 11 years. I know it doesn’t seem like much as we see these things slowly happen around us, but pay attention because this is a bigger deal than it seems.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:21 am    Post subject:

surprised they lasted so long. Their reputation was trashed as a place you would be made fun of if you got your shoes from back when I was a kid.
And now as budget shoe shopper for my kids (refuse to pay big bucks on shoes for kids who will trash them, lose them, or just quickly grow out of them) they did not have a competitive bang for buck on what they offered.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject:

Internet based retail will eventually wipe out most brick and mortar stores except for grocery stores, home improvement stores and car shopping.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject:

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Internet based retail will eventually wipe out most brick and mortar stores except for grocery stores, home improvement stores and car shopping.


Even those, amazon owns whole foods, walmarts going online hard and carvana
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:15 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
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Internet based retail will eventually wipe out most brick and mortar stores except for grocery stores, home improvement stores and car shopping.


Even those, amazon owns whole foods, walmarts going online hard and carvana


I don't think grocery stores will ever go away, sure you can buy prepackaged foods online, but most people like to pick their seafood, meats and produce in store.
As far as car dealerships goes, those will never go away at least in the US, the local governments and states will make sure the current system is in place....they will have their hand in the cookie jar even in the internet age.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject:

I get my shoes at either Kohl's or Shoe Carnival.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Good, their shoes sucked
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
governator wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Internet based retail will eventually wipe out most brick and mortar stores except for grocery stores, home improvement stores and car shopping.


Even those, amazon owns whole foods, walmarts going online hard and carvana


I don't think grocery stores will ever go away, sure you can buy prepackaged foods online, but most people like to pick their seafood, meats and produce in store.
As far as car dealerships goes, those will never go away at least in the US, the local governments and states will make sure the current system is in place....they will have their hand in the cookie jar even in the internet age.


I would not be so sure about that. Millenials hate going into car dealerships at nearly double the rate of Baby Boomers and when asked about newer car buying alternatives, 54% said they would “love” being able to sell or buy a car from home and 42% were fine buying a car without a test drive.

Tesla has successfully layed down the blueprint for how manufacturers can circumnavigate State mandatory dealer laws, and the public has responded overwhelming to their distribution model which lacks a dealership network. Each year more people choose to use a broker to purchase foreign cars directly from the manufacturer just so they can avoid the US dealership all together, as 87% of Americans report not liking to deal with car dealers.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
governator wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Internet based retail will eventually wipe out most brick and mortar stores except for grocery stores, home improvement stores and car shopping.


Even those, amazon owns whole foods, walmarts going online hard and carvana


I don't think grocery stores will ever go away, sure you can buy prepackaged foods online, but most people like to pick their seafood, meats and produce in store.
As far as car dealerships goes, those will never go away at least in the US, the local governments and states will make sure the current system is in place....they will have their hand in the cookie jar even in the internet age.


I would not be so sure about that. Millenials hate going into car dealerships at nearly double the rate of Baby Boomers and when asked about newer car buying alternatives, 54% said they would “love” being able to sell or buy a car from home and 42% were fine buying a car without a test drive.

Tesla has successfully layed down the blueprint for how manufacturers can circumnavigate State mandatory dealer laws, and the public has responded overwhelming to their distribution model which lacks a dealership network. Each year more people choose to use a broker to purchase foreign cars directly from the manufacturer just so they can avoid the US dealership all together, as 87% of Americans report not liking to deal with car dealers.

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Younger generations won't even want to own a vehicle because there will be no need to. So, dealerships will indeed go away too. They'll just be holding lots where autonomous Uber and Lyft fleets wait to be requested.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject:

I remember as a poor little kid in the very early 90s going there. My mom buying me 11 dollar sneakers with Velcro straps. Worst though was being stuck there bored out of my mind while mom shopped.

I’d rank it the 3rd most boring store after:

1. Baby clothing stores
2. Fabric stores

With Quincinera dress shops as a possible tie for 3rd.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject:

Dladi Vidac wrote:
I remember as a poor little kid in the very early 90s going there. My mom buying me 11 dollar sneakers with Velcro straps. Worst though was being stuck there bored out of my mind while mom shopped.

I’d rank it the 3rd most boring store after:

1. Baby clothing stores
2. Fabric stores

With Quincinera dress shops as a possible tie for 3rd.


I feel you on multiple levels with this post.....I was a little younger with my memories of Payless, but there was not much to do.....measure your foot on those metal things, and I can recall me and my cousins using the things you set on and then have a slant on one side for makeshift slides.....especially if you could find one with the rubber removed (or it was easy to remove ).

Another boring one for me was medical uniform shops. My mom went to Nursing school when I was a kid, and when she graduated we were always visiting uniform shops. There was nothing in those joints to entertain a 7 year old boy. In regards to my dad, it was waiting at a garage/tire shop....just setting in that little waiting room in the middle of the day with a fuzzy soap opera on the tv. I honestly think tire shop waiting rooms was a primary reason Gameboys and other hand held games got popular.
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Dladi Vidac wrote:
I remember as a poor little kid in the very early 90s going there. My mom buying me 11 dollar sneakers with Velcro straps. Worst though was being stuck there bored out of my mind while mom shopped.

I’d rank it the 3rd most boring store after:

1. Baby clothing stores
2. Fabric stores

With Quincinera dress shops as a possible tie for 3rd.


lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.
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That’s 2100 stores in the US, with all the retail workers from each store, plus management, Etc. Manufacturing was the first domino to fall in the automation/ai/internet revolution. Retail, trucking/drivers, contact center workers and clerical workers are next. Followed by professional jobs, lawyers, doctors, etc.

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Dladi Vidac wrote:
I remember as a poor little kid in the very early 90s going there. My mom buying me 11 dollar sneakers with Velcro straps. Worst though was being stuck there bored out of my mind while mom shopped.

I’d rank it the 3rd most boring store after:

1. Baby clothing stores
2. Fabric stores

With Quincinera dress shops as a possible tie for 3rd.

that was me too. for such a small shoe store my mom seemed to spend an eternity in that store while Im a combination of being beyond bored and terrified with anxiety that she might force me to get shoes from there
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 am    Post subject:

It's the beginning of FEMA Death camps

They will use the soon to be empty Sears and these shoe stores for processing centers and lockup
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:33 am    Post subject:

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lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.



Was it the LA Gear Regulator?
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vanexelent wrote:
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lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.



Was it the LA Gear Regulator?


or was it these bad boys?

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if you had wanted Jordan's, you may have ended up the the Pony Knockoff..

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lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.



Was it the LA Gear Regulator?


nope! there was no inflation funcionality whatsoever. Plus I think LA Gear was too "big" for Payless at that time.
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Plus I think LA Gear was too "big" for Payless at that time.


yeah, LA Gear was legit name brand shoes around that time....like British Knights and Brooks.
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People got beat up for wearing LA gear. They were the Clippers/WCW/ghostbusters with the gorilla/mexican grocery store knock off otterpops, of shoes.
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lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.



Was it the LA Gear Regulator?


nope! there was no inflation funcionality whatsoever. Plus I think LA Gear was too "big" for Payless at that time.


Assasins?
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vanexelent wrote:
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lol!!!

My first experience with Payless was in '89 when I asked for some reebok pumps. My mom went to Payless and got me this pair of sneakers with a large, puffy basketball embroidered onto the tongue and told me that it was a better version of the pumps. The basketball was beefy and springy enough that I believed it for a couple of weeks.



Was it the LA Gear Regulator?


nope! there was no inflation funcionality whatsoever. Plus I think LA Gear was too "big" for Payless at that time.


Assasins?


no, I'm 90% sure they were Pro Wings
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