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| If Baylor wins, do they make the CFP? |
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That Oklahoma-Baylor game was fun to watch.
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If Wisconsin beats Ohio St, who gets in, Wisconsin or Oklahoma?
Oklahoma is rooting for LSU and Ohio St today |
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PHILosophize
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curious what the committee would do if LSU wins and Ohio State decides to sit all their starters
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | curious what the committee would do if LSU wins and Ohio State decides to sit all their starters |
Why would Ohio State sit all their starters? They would be out of the playoffs if they did that and lost. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | curious what the committee would do if LSU wins and Ohio State decides to sit all their starters |
Why would Ohio State sit all their starters? They would be out of the playoffs if they did that and lost. |
well that's the question - would the committee really leave a 1-loss OSU team out? and at that point it's not even really a true loss 
they'd sit them so as not to risk any injuries, can't really get the 1 seed anymore, etc
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | curious what the committee would do if LSU wins and Ohio State decides to sit all their starters |
Why would Ohio State sit all their starters? They would be out of the playoffs if they did that and lost. |
well that's the question - would the committee really leave a 1-loss OSU team out? and at that point it's not even really a true loss
they'd sit them so as not to risk any injuries, can't really get the 1 seed anymore, etc |
Yeah, that's a pretty crazy idea. They'd be left out of the playoffs just for disrespecting the game.
And forfeiture is worse than a true loss...
You can’t forfeit a conference title game and still expect to get into the playoffs. |
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 maybe so
but if it's supposed to be the best four teams and OSU already demolished Wisconsin...
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| PHILosophize wrote: | maybe so
but if it's supposed to be the best four teams and OSU already demolished Wisconsin... |
Yeah, but it's a voting process and there's no set criteria on how each voter should vote.
There's a misconception that the committee picks the 4 best team as a group.
It's a voting process like the MVP and they tally up the votes to see who the 4 playoff teams are.
They do discuss at each voting step but the voting is still held by secret ballot
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Each committee member will create a list of the 30 teams he or she believes to be the best in the country, in no particular order. Teams listed by three or more members will remain under consideration.
Each member will list the best six teams, in no particular order. The six teams receiving the most votes will comprise the pool for the first seeding ballot. This is called a "listing step."
In the first seeding ballot, each member will rank those six teams, one through six, with one being the best. The top team in each member’s ranking will get 1 point; second‐best, 2 points, third-best, 3 points, etc. The three teams receiving the fewest points will become the top three seeds. The three teams that were not seeded will be held over for the next seeding ballot.
Each member will list the six best remaining teams, in no particular order. The three teams receiving the most votes will be added to the three teams held over to comprise the next seeding ballot.
Steps No. 3 and 4 will be repeated until 25 teams have been seeded. There will be seven rounds of voting. Each round will have a "listing step" and a "ranking step."
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What you're basically asking is how disrespectful can Ohio St act and still make the playoffs?
Can they just refuse to show up for the title game? Can they just allow a bunch of intramural students to play in the game?
Can they just kneel on every play and refuse to even play defense and lose 100-0? How much of a mockery can they make of the game and still make the playoffs?
I'd say they'd be left out if they made a mockery of the game by resting all their starters in the Big 10 title game.
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in all seriousness I don't think OSU would ever do that
but I do think it's a legitimate debate as to what the committee should (not necessarily would) do in that circumstance
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| PHILosophize wrote: | in all seriousness I don't think OSU would ever do that
but I do think it's a legitimate debate as to what the committee should (not necessarily would) do in that circumstance |
Yeah, if it's just a theoretical debate then you're right, LSU and Ohio State could lose their title games on purpose and still make the playoffs. They are that far ahead of the other teams coming into this weekend. And this has been noted by other analysts/articles. |
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I think Ohio State is in even with a loss, but I do think that they would be left out if they actually tanked the game and didn't play anybody, because that's not a conventional loss. At that point, the committee would have the out of selecting a conference champion OU over a tanking non-conference champion Ohio State. There's no way they will tank the game.
Also, Ohio State is in play for the #1 seed, and you'd rather play Oklahoma than Clemson in the semifinal. I think LSU absolutely deserves the #1 seed, but the committee may not agree. |
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a little ironic Jalen Hurts is likely going to the playoffs and Saban & his former teammates are not.....but if you think about it, if Hurts stays at Alabama, they may not lose to Auburn and he is taking Alabama to the playoffs.
A little more far fetched, but maybe Tua does not even play against LSU if Hurts is there, and a healthy Hurts leads Alabama to a win, and Tua is 100% healthy because he sits the last few games. |
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Mike Norvell agrees to deal to become Florida State's new coach
| Quote: | | Mike Norvell, who in four seasons has taken Memphis' football program to unprecedented heights, has agreed to a deal to become Florida State's next head coach, sources told ESPN's Chris Low. |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | maybe so
but if it's supposed to be the best four teams and OSU already demolished Wisconsin... |
They are still playing for a conference championship and aren’t going to give that up. Also, they will get more time off than usual between now and the college playoff. Too much rust could be an issue if they rest starters. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | ^
I think Ohio State is in even with a loss, but I do think that they would be left out if they actually tanked the game and didn't play anybody, because that's not a conventional loss. At that point, the committee would have the out of selecting a conference champion OU over a tanking non-conference champion Ohio State. There's no way they will tank the game.
Also, Ohio State is in play for the #1 seed, and you'd rather play Oklahoma than Clemson in the semifinal. I think LSU absolutely deserves the #1 seed, but the committee may not agree. |
Maybe OSU really is tanking the game?
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Game over. |
Oregon winning is a loss for the Pac-12 |
The PAC-12 hasn’t had a team in the playoff in 3 years! And that was a 4th seeded Washington team that looked outmatched against Alabama. And the year before that, no PAC-12 team again. Counting this year, it looks like it’s going to be 6 SEC teams compared to 1 for the PAC-12 going back to 2016.
It’s rare when the PAC-12 has a team in there and even more rare to see them look competitive. Meanwhile, the SEC ALWAYS gets a team and sometimes gets 2 teams, and those teams tend to look pretty good in the playoffs. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Game over. |
Oregon winning is a loss for the Pac-12 |
The PAC-12 hasn’t had a team in the playoff in 3 years! And that was a 4th seeded Washington team that looked outmatched against Alabama. And the year before that, no PAC-12 team again. Counting this year, it looks like it’s going to be 6 SEC teams compared to 1 for the PAC-12 going back to 2016.
It’s rare when the PAC-12 has a team in there and even more rare to see them look competitive. Meanwhile, the SEC ALWAYS gets a team and sometimes gets 2 teams, and those teams tend to look pretty good in the playoffs. |
Oh, and to make things even more embarrassing, the best team in the PAC-12, a team that dominated both Utah and USC, lost to the 5th best team in the SEC. Utah probably did themselves a favor by not making it into the playoff where they almost certainly would have been exposed in front of an even bigger audience.
I wish the PAC-12 would go back to 8 conference games, and maybe start taking a page out of the SEC playbook and schedule more cupcakes. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | ^
I think Ohio State is in even with a loss, but I do think that they would be left out if they actually tanked the game and didn't play anybody, because that's not a conventional loss. At that point, the committee would have the out of selecting a conference champion OU over a tanking non-conference champion Ohio State. There's no way they will tank the game.
Also, Ohio State is in play for the #1 seed, and you'd rather play Oklahoma than Clemson in the semifinal. I think LSU absolutely deserves the #1 seed, but the committee may not agree. |
May OSU really is tanking the game? |
if they lose, they should be out in my opinion....LSU would probably love it....they would easily be #1 and get Wisconsin in the Semi's |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Game over. |
Oregon winning is a loss for the Pac-12 |
The PAC-12 hasn’t had a team in the playoff in 3 years! And that was a 4th seeded Washington team that looked outmatched against Alabama. And the year before that, no PAC-12 team again. Counting this year, it looks like it’s going to be 6 SEC teams compared to 1 for the PAC-12 going back to 2016.
It’s rare when the PAC-12 has a team in there and even more rare to see them look competitive. Meanwhile, the SEC ALWAYS gets a team and sometimes gets 2 teams, and those teams tend to look pretty good in the playoffs. |
Oh, and to make things even more embarrassing, the best team in the PAC-12, a team that dominated both Utah and USC, lost to the 5th best team in the SEC. Utah probably did themselves a favor by not making it into the playoff where they almost certainly would have been exposed in front of an even bigger audience.
I wish the PAC-12 would go back to 8 conference games, and maybe start taking a page out of the SEC playbook and schedule more cupcakes. |
Yeah, that might all be true but if Utah wins yesterday, they have a shot at making the playoffs. It'd be between them and Oklahoma.
And financially speaking, that's a loss for the Pac 12. |
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| How bad can OSU lose and still make the playoffs? |
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I was watching a game a few hours ago...I was falling asleep (have a head cold) but I think it was the AAC game.....the refs called 12 men on the field on Cincinnati, and Cincinnati challenged the call. I thought it was weird, but apparently their guys realized on the video, the 12th guy was not visible getting off the field. Sure enough, even though the refs saw the guy and the broadcasters saw the guy, the rule is there has to be video evidence and since they did not have the angle to see the guy, it had to be overturned because there was only 11 guys on the video.
Just something they may want to look at and be sure to always have an overhead shot of the whole field going forward. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | How bad can OSU lose and still make the playoffs? |
not sure...I think if they maybe got rolled 31-3 or something, there may be a question. It is more likely an injury to Fields or Dobbins would cause the committee to hesitate. If Fields went down, they are screwed....their backup QB is WVU's former backup QB, and he is not very talented. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Clemson just dismembering fools and nobody is paying attention.... |
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