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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

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If anyone's on the Lakers reddit, there's film footage of people freaking out over Lebron today Even with the Chinese Government cancelling their support, Lebron still draws the crowds

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfr17r/lebron_had_the_fans_in_china_wildn_out_witness/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqsg0/look_at_all_these_chinese_fans_towards_lbj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqvf6/chinese_fans_chanting_lbj_last_night_at_a_mall/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah 6 hours away. Some shut-eye and an early alarm are in order.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:22 pm    Post subject:

I need a strong year from the Lakers now that the Dodgers flamed out again.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Is there anything the league does to even the odds between teams that visit and play in China, and those that don't. It seems like it would put the teams going at a disadvantage, given that they are away from their practice facilities and have to adjust to different time zones twice.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:29 pm    Post subject:

They're playing at 4:30 in the morning? I forgot about the time difference. Guess I'll dvr it then.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:37 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
If anyone's on the Lakers reddit, there's film footage of people freaking out over Lebron today Even with the Chinese Government cancelling their support, Lebron still draws the crowds

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfr17r/lebron_had_the_fans_in_china_wildn_out_witness/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqsg0/look_at_all_these_chinese_fans_towards_lbj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqvf6/chinese_fans_chanting_lbj_last_night_at_a_mall/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:33 pm    Post subject:

4 more hours!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:51 pm    Post subject:

cal1piggy wrote:
drae wrote:
If anyone's on the Lakers reddit, there's film footage of people freaking out over Lebron today Even with the Chinese Government cancelling their support, Lebron still draws the crowds

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfr17r/lebron_had_the_fans_in_china_wildn_out_witness/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqsg0/look_at_all_these_chinese_fans_towards_lbj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/dfqvf6/chinese_fans_chanting_lbj_last_night_at_a_mall/


good to see


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:57 pm    Post subject:

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A Hong Kong Resident competitor gave a shout out to Hong Kong protests and was banned for a year and lost his 10k earnings.
These cowards have been this way since I was a child
The Great Firewall made me hate everything about Chinese government
https://www.thedailybeast.com/blizzard-employees-staged-a-walkout-to-protest-banned-pro-hong-kong-gamer

I quit wow a few years ago but this is more boot licking that shouldn't happen
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The game publisher behind online multiplayer hits like World of Warcraft and Overwatch banned Hong Kong-based professional Hearthstone player Chung Ng Wai from thegame’s lucrative pro league for a year on Tuesday. Chung, who uses the handle “Blitzchung,” prompted the ban after saying “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times” during an interview about his tournament wins. Blizzard’s actions forced him to forfeit $10,000 in prize money he had already won.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:00 am    Post subject:

ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Our Overlord D.B.
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A Hong Kong Resident competitor gave a shout out to Hong Kong protests and was banned for a year and lost his 10k earnings.
These cowards have been this way since I was a child
The Great Firewall made me hate everything about Chinese government
https://www.thedailybeast.com/blizzard-employees-staged-a-walkout-to-protest-banned-pro-hong-kong-gamer

I quit wow a few years ago but this is more boot licking that shouldn't happen
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The game publisher behind online multiplayer hits like World of Warcraft and Overwatch banned Hong Kong-based professional Hearthstone player Chung Ng Wai from thegame’s lucrative pro league for a year on Tuesday. Chung, who uses the handle “Blitzchung,” prompted the ban after saying “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times” during an interview about his tournament wins. Blizzard’s actions forced him to forfeit $10,000 in prize money he had already won.


A few of Blizzard's games are extremely popular in China to the point where, during lull periods, China may very well have more people playing WoW than America.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject:

How bout them Apples. https://www.reuters.com/article/hongkong-protests-apple/apple-removes-police-tracking-app-used-in-hong-kong-protests-from-its-app-store-idUSL2N26V00Z?utm_source=reddit.com

Hope ya'll have the same energy condemning each of these companies.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:59 am    Post subject:

2 1/2 hours to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:08 am    Post subject:

South Park: Band in China

full episode

https://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s23e02-band-in-china
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:15 am    Post subject:

Haven't been following but will this game be broadcasted and if so what network. Thanks guys
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:11 am    Post subject:

Supposedly on nbatv.
1 hour and 20 mins to go!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:34 am    Post subject:

I can’t imagine how i would feel if they extradited someone from my family to Britain if they spoke out against the queen. A hopeless feeling of despair and helplessness I suppose.

I guess I’m silly for expecting that we as a people would act any differently towards another country with what is going on in our own increasingly authoritarian nation.

But still it’s pretty sad how quickly certain the commitment to certain inalienable principles withered in the nba when something real became at stake.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:57 am    Post subject:

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Unless the US stops trading with China, then there is no reason to leave the responsibility on the NBA or expect any businesses to stand with HK. Do we feel that morally superior? That our constitution is the creme de la creme and every other country should be like us? Have our political system, our way of life and thinking? This all sounds familiar in history.

Funny to me Trump poked fun of Kerr and Pop because it starts at the top. If we really want to stand with HK, then America and Trump has to come out and say it, so that all hell can really break loose. But that's not the case, is it? Our government dances around these issues when they deal with China because it's complicated and delicate. Yet we expect the NBA to put the smack down on China and stand with HK? This whole thing makes no sense.


Every human should have the right to speak freely without fear of torture or imprisonment. Yet the only constitution in the world which protects this freedom is our own. So yeah..in this we have moral high ground.
China’s government is oppressive and vile. How can anyone suggest otherwise?


This kind of thinking is the reason why America is in conflict with a lot of countries. Americans project their culture to others, demand everyone follow suit and stand from a moral high horse.

We have to understand each country has its own set of cultures framed by their own histories. Some beliefs may seem strange to us, but we have no right to condemn or interfere.

We say China is vile, yet it is America that has 6000 nuclear warheads, holding the world by its throat. We say China is oppressive yet it is America that destroyed Iraq and killed thousands due an accusation of WMDs that was actually proven false.

Let the players play. Leave China and its internal issues for their own politicians to solve.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:06 am    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
Is there anything the league does to even the odds between teams that visit and play in China, and those that don't. It seems like it would put the teams going at a disadvantage, given that they are away from their practice facilities and have to adjust to different time zones twice.



Not that I know of. I don't know what the league could do.


India: Sacramento and Indiana
China: Lakers and Brooklyn
Japan: Toronto and Houston


If all of the teams were considered to be bad (destined for the lottery), then helping them some would have minimal influence on the regular season. There are too many good teams in that group for the NBA to consider giving them some type of boost.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:20 am    Post subject:

The real question is … will we get a game thread with the game on while everyone's sleeping
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:28 am    Post subject:

lesluthor wrote:
LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
Unless the US stops trading with China, then there is no reason to leave the responsibility on the NBA or expect any businesses to stand with HK. Do we feel that morally superior? That our constitution is the creme de la creme and every other country should be like us? Have our political system, our way of life and thinking? This all sounds familiar in history.

Funny to me Trump poked fun of Kerr and Pop because it starts at the top. If we really want to stand with HK, then America and Trump has to come out and say it, so that all hell can really break loose. But that's not the case, is it? Our government dances around these issues when they deal with China because it's complicated and delicate. Yet we expect the NBA to put the smack down on China and stand with HK? This whole thing makes no sense.


Every human should have the right to speak freely without fear of torture or imprisonment. Yet the only constitution in the world which protects this freedom is our own. So yeah..in this we have moral high ground.
China’s government is oppressive and vile. How can anyone suggest otherwise?


This kind of thinking is the reason why America is in conflict with a lot of countries. Americans project their culture to others, demand everyone follow suit and stand from a moral high horse.

We have to understand each country has its own set of cultures framed by their own histories. Some beliefs may seem strange to us, but we have no right to condemn or interfere.

We say China is vile, yet it is America that has 6000 nuclear warheads, holding the world by its throat. We say China is oppressive yet it is America that destroyed Iraq and killed thousands due an accusation of WMDs that was actually proven false.

Let the players play. Leave China and its internal issues for their own politicians to solve.


Sounds like you want to stand on your own moral high horse, not that I approve of the Iraq war one iota. But that's not the subject here and defending free speech is a far different topic, unless by projection you're insinuating nobody has a right to an opinion because Iraq.

This all started when one guy tweeted his opinion on a subject. Yes it was touchy and the timing was stupid, but the overreaction is childish. Do you really think defending an American's right to have an opinion equals projecting power and demanding others follow suite? It's actually the reverse. China doesn't want someone in America who works for an NBA team to have free speech on a subject they don't approve of, and they are the one projecting economic power to silence him.

Get off your own moral high horse, and if you're ready to talk about free speech, talk about it. In the meantime a basketball discussion would actually be nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:40 am    Post subject:

drae wrote:
The real question is … will we get a game thread with the game on while everyone's sleeping


Lol rise and shine!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:42 am    Post subject:

wow, the place is packed
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:57 am    Post subject:

howard looks much better than last game.
no lbj - ad pick and roll yet
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 am    Post subject:

drae wrote:
The real question is … will we get a game thread with the game on while everyone's sleeping


9AM here in Brazil, so I'm up and running
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:11 am    Post subject:

lesluthor wrote:
LaLaLakeShow wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
Unless the US stops trading with China, then there is no reason to leave the responsibility on the NBA or expect any businesses to stand with HK. Do we feel that morally superior? That our constitution is the creme de la creme and every other country should be like us? Have our political system, our way of life and thinking? This all sounds familiar in history.

Funny to me Trump poked fun of Kerr and Pop because it starts at the top. If we really want to stand with HK, then America and Trump has to come out and say it, so that all hell can really break loose. But that's not the case, is it? Our government dances around these issues when they deal with China because it's complicated and delicate. Yet we expect the NBA to put the smack down on China and stand with HK? This whole thing makes no sense.


Every human should have the right to speak freely without fear of torture or imprisonment. Yet the only constitution in the world which protects this freedom is our own. So yeah..in this we have moral high ground.
China’s government is oppressive and vile. How can anyone suggest otherwise?


This kind of thinking is the reason why America is in conflict with a lot of countries. Americans project their culture to others, demand everyone follow suit and stand from a moral high horse.

We have to understand each country has its own set of cultures framed by their own histories. Some beliefs may seem strange to us, but we have no right to condemn or interfere.

We say China is vile, yet it is America that has 6000 nuclear warheads, holding the world by its throat. We say China is oppressive yet it is America that destroyed Iraq and killed thousands due an accusation of WMDs that was actually proven false.

Let the players play. Leave China and its internal issues for their own politicians to solve.


The players want to play.

Unfortunately, we had a GM who was an idiot and tweeted a subject when he did not fully understand the consequences and circumstances surrounding this subject.
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