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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject:

I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject:

Kuz and Rondo will no doubt help.. Kuz in particular will have a huge impact but if Troy Daniels and Cook can come in and hit 3-5 3's combined, it gives our bench a big boost.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:22 pm    Post subject:

slavavov wrote:
I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.


There's a few players on the team who will drain the clock down to under 10 seconds then dump it off to Lebron or AD. Looking at you Cook. Caruso did it a couple of times as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject:

Much better rotations today by Frank Vogel.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:26 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject:

slavavov wrote:
I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.


Definitely still a concern. We looked better agains the Clippers. However if the defense can be there consistently we can buy ourselves some time to iron out the offensive side. Vogel's on the clock to get it clicking.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
slavavov wrote:
I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.


There's a few players on the team who will drain the clock down to under 10 seconds then dump it off to Lebron or AD. Looking at you Cook. Caruso did it a couple of times as well.


Im not surprise with Cook base on where he came from. W’s never really ran a traditional PG system. He had 3 snipers to always dump the pass to.

I think we’ll be fine once Cooks and KCP shots start falling. Only positive I can see.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject:

slavavov wrote:
I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.


No doubt, it worked against the Jazz (they play slow themselves) but will not work against the Nuggets or Blazers for example. Although they did some things against the clippers so maybe it was just the matchup.

Need to play with more pace though, general point is true.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Lebron and AD where phenomenal. Crazy to think this is only light work for them right now.
They’re only getting started.
Better and better every game.
Those 2 lobs were


Dwight was great. Tough presence inside the paint forever.
Really wish he didn’t get that Flagrant late in the game. No silly Draymond Suspensions.


Troy and Danny are lights out!
Just flat out assassins from deep. An we know Danny has solid defense didn’t know Troy isn’t bad on that end either.


Avery Bradley basically erased KcP’s role. All the mid range scoring and lock down defense is what KCP has built his name on his entire career. Gotta shake this funk.
Nice to see Lebron pulling him aside at the end of the game to keep his head up.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject:

Also have to understand Lebron is still learning and feeling out his team mates...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:33 pm    Post subject:

Like Vogel. He is really a experienced coach. Makes no hesitation in rotation. AD and LBJ at F, Green and Bradley at G. McGee and Howard at C. Caruso, take up the role for Rando, coming off the bench to bring to ball up. KCP, Daniels, Cooks and Dudley as bench scorers, play D and hit 3s.

Can’t wait to see Rando back and Kuz as our 6th man.

Last years we kept searching for different combinations which hurt players’ confidence and chemistry.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:39 pm    Post subject:

slavavov wrote:
I'll definitely take this win, but our offense is WAY too slow. We never really push the ball, and there's usually only 10-12 seconds left on the shot clock when we start to really look for a shot.

That will not get it done against the elite teams.


Caruso helped the pace in the 3rd, he pushes and sets early screens... nothing that popped off the screen but still a slight help. Still maybe the worst P/R Pg in the league I'll admit
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:39 pm    Post subject:

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Like Vogel. He is really a experienced coach. Makes no hesitation in rotation. AD and LBJ at F, Green and Bradley at G. McGee and Howard at C. Caruso, take up the role for Rando, coming off the bench to bring to ball up. KCP, Daniels, Cooks and Dudley as bench scorers, play D and hit 3s.

Can’t wait to see Rando back and Kuz as our 6th man.

Last years we kept searching for different combinations which hurt players’ confidence and chemistry.


Awesome take Sina. I agree with it all.

On a side note though I’m assuming your spell check is constructing “Rando”?




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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject:

We still got a ways to go, but it's gonna be exciting watching this team grow together. Man, when Kuzma and Rondo get back, our bench is gonna be noiiiiiiiiiiice!

Also, I hope we add Iggy to the mix.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:02 pm    Post subject:

Woooooooootttttttttt
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:54 pm    Post subject:

Good seeing some of the guys practicing after the game. They putting in work
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:14 am    Post subject:

We need Dwight to be a mix between Rodman and Mutombo.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:40 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Kuz and Rondo will no doubt help.. Kuz in particular will have a huge impact but if Troy Daniels and Cook can come in and hit 3-5 3's combined, it gives our bench a big boost.


Kuzma has to be the most overrated player in the past decade. Having him healthy will help with depth but if we are expecting him to be some kind of difference, good bye in the second round.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:06 am    Post subject:

Good win! Nice to see Green already panning out and love seeing Troy splash those 3s.

KCP can suck a nut for the rest of the season for all i care.


Im really happy BI is doing well even tho he isn't on the team anymore.

Lets go!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject:

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Yesterday, Coach Vogel changed up the lineup at the start of the 3Q by subbing in Caruso for JaVale, which made AD the center. That lineup of Caruso, Bradley, Green, LeBron, & AD played 8 minutes together and finished with an:

OffRtg: 118.8
DefRtg: 82.4
NetRtg: +36.4
TS%: 62.5%


https://twitter.com/ali_behpoornia/status/1188112412089602048?s=21

Closing lineup on most nights with Kuz back:

Caruso/Bradley (matchup based)
Green
Kuz
Lebron
AD
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:45 pm    Post subject:

dr. buss wrote:
We need Dwight to be a mix between Rodman and Mutombo.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:06 pm    Post subject:

Wasn't Utah being billed as a stronger team than the Lakers by the media germ spreaders?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject:

StoicChalice392 wrote:
Wasn't Utah being billed as a stronger team than the Lakers by the media germ spreaders?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:23 pm    Post subject:

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Wasn't Utah being billed as a stronger team than the Lakers by the media germ spreaders?


I thought so. Yet despite the sloppy ball handling at times and numerous TO, we had the game under control. AB and DG were amazing defensively. AD mentioned after the game they didn't want a repeat of Game 1 were they get tortured by the opposing guards. They actually implemented what they said. Good in-game adjustments by Vogel and great execution by the players. I'll take it.
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