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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:23 am Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Out of curiosity, why did you twice respond word for word the same to the same post over 14 hours apart?
Rest assured, many times I ask questions I think I know the answer to. This is one of those times.
I'm not proficiently versed in court procedure. I wasn't sure about hung juries. When you posted
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I think he was asking whether they could later retry him on the charges the jury was hung on, and the answer is yes. That would only be likely if they are hung on all charges though.
I didn't think that true but wasn't sure. You cleared it up. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:59 am Post subject:
No, I’m wondering why you made the exact same post twice, but over 14 hours apart? _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:28 am Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
No, I’m wondering why you made the exact same post twice, but over 14 hours apart?
Didn't know I did. What posts are you referring to? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:03 pm Post subject:
Look at the two posts above the last one on the last page. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:59 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Look at the two posts above the last one on the last page.
I don't know why that happened. After the first read, I thought it was a computer glitch. I went back, reread, noticed the different post times and dates. The only thing I can come with is a computer glitch or I made a brain fart identical post. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:17 pm Post subject:
Chauvin's defense would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It would be like me shooting somebody and saying, "I didn't kill that person. The bullet did. I'm innocent." _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Chauvin's defense would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It would be like me shooting somebody and saying, "I didn't kill that person. The bullet did. I'm innocent."
It’s also like saying the person was on drugs so maybe he died from that instead. So the shooter shouldn’t be held responsible. Even if it’s on video.
It’s a strange defense.
Drugs that the person likely took throughout their lives (yet never died from before?). The defense is essentially saying someone who got hit by a car died from the bee sting that happened seconds before the car ran them over. Chauvin's defense is an embarrassment and insult to the average juror's intelligence level.
Chauvin's defense only needs to be good enough to effectively appeal to the racist views of the jury: the views which place the police above non-whites regardless of resulting death. _________________ Garvey, Lopes, Cey, Russell
Chauvin's defense would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It would be like me shooting somebody and saying, "I didn't kill that person. The bullet did. I'm innocent."
It’s also like saying the person was on drugs so maybe he died from that instead. So the shooter shouldn’t be held responsible. Even if it’s on video.
It’s a strange defense.
Drugs that the person likely took throughout their lives (yet never died from before?). The defense is essentially saying someone who got hit by a car died from the bee sting that happened seconds before the car ran them over. Chauvin's defense is an embarrassment and insult to the average juror's intelligence level.
Yeah the prosecution was just arguing that we would have to believe a miracle happened to buy that. The prosecution is right; it’s nonsense.
Chauvin's defense would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
It would be like me shooting somebody and saying, "I didn't kill that person. The bullet did. I'm innocent."
It’s also like saying the person was on drugs so maybe he died from that instead. So the shooter shouldn’t be held responsible. Even if it’s on video.
It’s a strange defense.
Drugs that the person likely took throughout their lives (yet never died from before?). The defense is essentially saying someone who got hit by a car died from the bee sting that happened seconds before the car ran them over. Chauvin's defense is an embarrassment and insult to the average juror's intelligence level.
Yeah the prosecution was just arguing that we would have to believe a miracle happened to buy that. The prosecution is right; it’s nonsense.
Agreed! Thought you were siding with the defense here
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:49 am Post subject:
Got word LAPD is geared up for the verdict. I hope it doesn't have to act. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Gray suit again. That can't be coincidence, all these gray suits. Light gray is often the last go-to in a wardrobe if black or dark blue aren't at the cleaners. They probably think if we have him wearing black, it could look like he's mourning Floyd's death and we can't have him wearing pinstripes and dark colors if not just pinstripes by themselves. That might make him seem like he's trying to be fashionable. Slate gray is a nether-shade, closest to pastel that any of the standard suit colors could get. Plus, it suggests 50/50 between black and white. The last thing the defense wants is the jury to even subconsciously think in terms of black and white in this case. IE: this is a black and white matter, this was a black man and a white cop. Or he could love the color gray, but they often try to create appearances these lawyers. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:30 am Post subject:
The prosecution gave a compassionate closing statement. Had me close to misting once or twice. Steve Schleicher humanized George Floyd painted Derek Chauvin as a heartless inhuman. Defense up next. I have a feeling their closing arguments will be as unbelievable as their defense. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
The prosecution gave a compassionate closing statement. Had me close to misting once or twice. Steve Schleicher humanized George Floyd painted Derek Chauvin as a heartless inhuman. Defense up next. I have a feeling their closing arguments will be as unbelievable as their defense.
I was just watching Faux's defense strategy w/ Kayleigh, etc. They of course come off sounding like Snapper Jones talking about what the Lakers' opponent needs to do in order to win. They never cease to find a yes man of the right hue to take the side of the cops on Fox. He wanted to focus on KEY! issues surrounding Floyd stating, "Hold on, I'm claustrophobic, gimme 3 secs". To him, that was resisting. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:53 am Post subject:
I know it won't happen but I wish Chauvin is found guilty and housed in the general population with no Hemovir available.
Would a reasonable police officer pick a pebble out of a tire while a prone suspect is saying he can't breathe? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:36 am Post subject:
If we get a decision today I think it will be guilty. The longer the jury's out the better it is for Chauvin. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:30 am Post subject:
BadGuy wrote:
LarryCoon wrote:
"We can also see.....that he was eating a banana."
And as Monty Python demonstrated, a banana is a deadly weapon.
Found it strange that the defense attorney kept bringing that up. Also, is he just trying to filibuster his way out of a verdict today?
Defense; Was that a banana, was that a pill, what was that? He mentioned pills were found in the car. He didn't mention anything about a banana. Trying to get the jury to think Floyd had pills in his mouth. Chauvin has no defense. The videos are solid evidence he committed murder.
I'm on the jury of public opinion. I vote guilty on all charges. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject:
BadGuy wrote:
LarryCoon wrote:
"We can also see.....that he was eating a banana."
And as Monty Python demonstrated, a banana is a deadly weapon.
Found it strange that the defense attorney kept bringing that up. Also, is he just trying to filibuster his way out of a verdict today?
That guy was rambling, I'm surprised he didn't comment that George was wearing a tank top, "as we can all see", like it was something significant or "Mr. Floyd was wearing dark pants, right?" suggesting his pants were a contributing factor in his death. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:23 pm Post subject:
The judge essentially said that Maxine Waters' comments could be grounds for a mistrial on appeal, even though he wouldn't grant one now. That cannot be good.
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