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Shounld the 1948 Title count, too? |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Should the 1948 NBL Championship count? |
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The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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OX1947 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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man, i dont even remember what happen 10 min ago, let alone 1948. My dad and mom werent even born yet... |
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10scott10 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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The onl reason it doesn't was to facilitate the merger. becuase the other league was in bigger cities and hence more money, they honored the other title. of course the laker then did kill that team mercilessly during the first 3 play-offs of the NBA |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: |
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10scott10 wrote: | The onl reason it doesn't was to facilitate the merger. becuase the other league was in bigger cities and hence more money, they honored the other title. of course the laker then did kill that team mercilessly during the first 3 play-offs of the NBA |
Yes, I understnd that - but I still think we need to hang the 1948 team's banner at Staples. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Jedi24MVP Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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who cares? 8 titles in a modern era of parity is more impressive than what the Celtics did in an age with very little of it. _________________ "These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing Chess."
-Kobe Bryant |
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activeverb Retired Number
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 37470
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Should the 1948 NBL Championship count? |
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Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
That's like a Pacers fan yelling, "We have won three NBA championships" because they won three ABA titles.
The way I look at it, we're lucky they count the BAA titles we won.
We have 14 rings. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Should the 1948 NBL Championship count? |
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activeverb wrote: | Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
That's like a Pacers fan yelling, "We have won three NBA championships" because they won three ABA titles.
The way I look at it, we're lucky they count the BAA titles we won.
We have 14 rings. |
1. The BAA was the NBA. They changed the name in '50.
2. At keast at the local level, the LAKERS should count it as an organizational championship, even if it is not an NBA title. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Should the 1948 NBL Championship count? |
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Dr. Laker wrote: | activeverb wrote: | Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
That's like a Pacers fan yelling, "We have won three NBA championships" because they won three ABA titles.
The way I look at it, we're lucky they count the BAA titles we won.
We have 14 rings. |
1. The BAA was the NBA. They changed the name in '50.
2. At keast at the local level, the LAKERS should count it as an organizational championship, even if it is not an NBA title. |
1. The NBA was formed when the BAA and NBL merged. The BAA was a precursor to the NBA. This isn't much different than the ABA merging into the NBA.
2. We would look really silly claiming a championship that no one else recognized. I mean, heck, how stupid would we look claiming a ring from a league when the Sacramento Kings (who derived from the 1946 NBL champs) don't? They hang up their conference championship banners, but they won't take credit for the NBL right -- and you want us to?
No thanks. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
Where does the 15 come from? We have 16, right?
Mikan -1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954
West & Wilt - 1972
Showtime - 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988
Kobe & Shaq - 2000, 2001, 2002
Kobe & Pau - 2009, 2010 |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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All championships in all leagues should count. It isn't an NBA championship, but it is still a championship and should be listed as part of the franchise history. I have no issue with the Kings claiming an NBA championship via the Rochester Royals, or Indiana claiming 3 championships via the ABA. These are all legitimately part of franchise lineage and history. And previous leagues that have been folded in whole or in part into the NBA are part of NBA history and lineage. Count all the championships, records, whatever and go ahead and asterisk anything that wasn't NBA proper. |
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Wolverine Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
Where does the 15 come from? We have 16, right?
1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010 |
This thread is from 2008 (before our last two titles). |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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How bored are we? 2008? _________________ “You have to dance beautifully in the box that you are comfortable dancing in.” - Kobe Bryant |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wolverine wrote: | adkindo wrote: | Dr. Laker wrote: | The Lakers' 1949 BAA Championship counts as an NBA Title, but the title they won in 1948 in the NBL doesn't. I assume that is because the NBL was a rival to the BAA, but the 1949 BAA was made up of 6 NBL and 6 BAA teams.
The 1948 Lakers had a more legitimate claim to the title "World Champions" than the BAA Champion Baltimore Bullets. The Lakers had the best player on Earth (Mikan), along with a roster of All Stars, which was proven by the Lakers' immediate domination of the BAA/NBA.
We need to count the 48 Title, too!
WE HAVE 15 RINGS! |
Where does the 15 come from? We have 16, right?
1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010 |
This thread is from 2008 (before our last two titles). |
who brought it back to the front page....I certainly didn't....it was the top thread. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Yup. 17 rings baby. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:32 am Post subject: |
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The one person here most qualified to answer is our very own Jodeke. Joe lived thru the 40s, he stormed the beach at Normandy. He was old enough then to have listened to NBA radio broadcasts as well as fireside chats with President Roosevelt. I'd like to get his opinion on this matter. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hell to da yes!!! It's something that's come up every now and then. I'm all for the Lakers getting another banner.
I started watching basketball because of Nat Sweetwater Clifton. Was a New York Knick fan. Dick McGuire was PG on that team.
I liked the Celtics because they were the first team in the NBA to start 5 Black players. Was still a Knick fan though. Don't know why but I've never been a Celtics fan
Though only vaguely I remember Earl Loyd and Chuck Cooper. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I don't give a crap...let's win again. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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