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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:53 pm    Post subject:

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Deng for Coward.... do it Mitch.


Either that or trading Dwight to a team even more obscure and irrelevant than the Hornets, if one even exists.


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So Dwight wanted to be the face of a franchise in a major market and get endorsement deals and TV/movie deals and stuff? Trade him to the Clippers and watch him take that sorry franchise down with him. He can be Deandre Jordan's Tyson Chandler.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:25 am    Post subject:

Was that the best first move?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:37 am    Post subject:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39511232/sources-hornets-president-mitch-kupchak-moving-adviser-role

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Sources: Hornets president Mitch Kupchak moving to adviser role
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Charlotte Hornets president of basketball operations Mitch Kupchak is stepping down to become an organizational adviser, clearing the way for the franchise to begin an immediate search for a new head of basketball operations, sources told ESPN on Monday morning.

There's an expectation that new owners Rick Schnall and Gabe Plotkin will hire a new top basketball executive prior to the end of the regular season, which will allow Kupchak to remain in his day-to-day role until his successor is on board, sources said.

Kupchak, 69, would be completing a remarkably successful career that included 10 championships as a front-office executive and player.

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The Hornets' search is expected to focus on several sitting general managers, including Philadelphia's Elton Brand, New Orleans' Trajan Langdon, Cleveland's Mike Gansey and the LA Clippers' Trent Redden, sources said. Brooklyn's Jeff Peterson, Washington's Travis Schlenk and Sacramento's Wes Wilcox are among assistant GMs who will be in consideration, sources said. Peterson, Schlenk and Wilcox worked with the Atlanta Hawks when Schnall was one of the franchise's minority owners.

Schnall and Plotkin have started spearheading significant change and upgrades in the Hornets' infrastructure since purchasing a majority interest in the team from Michael Jordan for $3 billion in August.

The Hornets made several roster moves in recent weeks to start gathering draft assets and young players for a rebuild, including two future first-round picks in trades that sent out Terry Rozier and P.J. Washington. Rookie forward Brandon Miller has shown the promise of a future All-Star.

The franchise has also embarked on a $275 million arena renovation and plans for a new $60 million practice facility. The Hornets are 11-41 and have been largely decimated by injuries this season.

Kupchak will be completing his sixth season as Charlotte's top basketball executive, a run that included the drafting of Miller and 2021 NBA Rookie of the Year and All-Star guard LaMelo Ball.

Before joining the Hornets in 2018, Kupchak had a decorated 30-year run in the Lakers' front office -- including 17 years as GM with four NBA championships and six Western Conference titles. Kupchak won seven titles as an executive, two as a Lakers player and one as a Washington player.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:50 am    Post subject:

Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:40 pm    Post subject:

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Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.


Not in the NBA. Let's deconstruct:

2023 Nuggets - Stan Kronke, old time Billionaire. Team caught lightning in a bottle drafting Jokic with the 41st pick of the 2014 draft (after they drafted Doug McDermott in the lottery).

2022 Warriors - Drafted Steph Curry with the 7th pick of the 2009 draft under the ownership of Chris Cohan, who SI ranked as the 4th worst NBA owner.

2021 Bucks - Drafted Giannis with the 15th pick of the 2013 draft under the ownership of Herb Kohl, who earlier tried to sell the team to Michael Jordan.

2020 Lakers - Lebron chose us, sold the farm for AD

2019 Raptors - Rented Kawhi for a year. Owned by a mega sports comglomerate since the 90s.

2018 Warriors - KD chose to join an existing champ through a loophole in the salary cap.

2017 Warriors - see 2018 Warriors

2016 Cavs - Lebron chose them, dragged the team on his back.

2015 Warriors - see 2022 Warriors

2014 Spurs - Mom & Pop outfit tanked to get Duncan, drafted Parker with the 28th pick of the 2001 draft and Ginobili with the 57th pick of the 1999 draft.

So, in the last 10 years:

- 4 rings were won by old guard ownership, 3 of whom (Lakers/Spurs/Nuggets) could be classified as "Mom & Pop."

- 6 rings were won by teams that had superstars force their way to them (Cavs, Lakers, Warriors, Raptors)

- 7 rings for teams that got lucky in the draft (Spurs, Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets)

So rather than bringing in people to implement a vision, it's much better to get lucky in the draft or be in position to receive the right disgruntled superstar.

You can say that those things resulted from planning, but the only documented planning was the Lakers planning to have cap space for LeBron.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:34 pm    Post subject:

^ Great post Doc!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:52 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.


So rather than bringing in people to implement a vision, it's much better to get lucky in the draft or be in position to receive the right disgruntled superstar.

So how do you get lucky in the draft?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:43 am    Post subject:

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Dr. Laker wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.


So rather than bringing in people to implement a vision, it's much better to get lucky in the draft or be in position to receive the right disgruntled superstar.

So how do you get lucky in the draft?


Well, the tried & true NBA way is to tank and get better opportunities.

- Houston Rockets Blew it up after Moses Malone forced his way to Philly in 1982. Drafted Ralph Sampson in 1983 & Akeem in '84. Still took 10 seasons to win a ring, but they did. The league implemented a lottery because the tanking was so bad in '83-'84.

- San Antonio Spurs A 59 win divisional champ spectacularly went into the toilet after David Robinson's injury and won only 20 games. They got Duncan in the 98 draft and won 5 chips with him.

Another good way is to have the teams in front of you in the draft blow it.

- Chicago Bulls In that same '84 draft, Akeem was the consensus #1 and Jordan the consensus #2. Portland had the #2 pick, but had Clyde Drexler on the team and wasn't sure about playing him at SF. They failed to do a physical on Sam Bowie (who was hiding a major injury) and drafted Sam, letting Jordan fall into the Bulls' lap.

- Golden State Warriors In the 2009 draft, Minnesota drafted two PG: Ricky Rubio 5th & Jonny Flynn 6th. Steph Curry went 7th.

Or have G-d intervene.

- Los Angeles Lakers The Lakers owned New Orleans' pick in the 1979 draft, and New Orleans had the worst record in the EC. The Bulls had the worst record in the WC and under the rules at the time, there was a coin flip to determine the #1 pick. The Bulls had a poll and their fans voted for heads. The Bulls asked the Lakers if they could call it, the Lakers ;et them and the Bulls called heads. It was tails and the Lakers got Magic Johnson.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:04 am    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.


Not in the NBA. Let's deconstruct:

2023 Nuggets - Stan Kronke, old time Billionaire. Team caught lightning in a bottle drafting Jokic with the 41st pick of the 2014 draft (after they drafted Doug McDermott in the lottery).

2022 Warriors - Drafted Steph Curry with the 7th pick of the 2009 draft under the ownership of Chris Cohan, who SI ranked as the 4th worst NBA owner.

2021 Bucks - Drafted Giannis with the 15th pick of the 2013 draft under the ownership of Herb Kohl, who earlier tried to sell the team to Michael Jordan.

2020 Lakers - Lebron chose us, sold the farm for AD

2019 Raptors - Rented Kawhi for a year. Owned by a mega sports comglomerate since the 90s.

2018 Warriors - KD chose to join an existing champ through a loophole in the salary cap.

2017 Warriors - see 2018 Warriors

2016 Cavs - Lebron chose them, dragged the team on his back.

2015 Warriors - see 2022 Warriors

2014 Spurs - Mom & Pop outfit tanked to get Duncan, drafted Parker with the 28th pick of the 2001 draft and Ginobili with the 57th pick of the 1999 draft.

So, in the last 10 years:

- 4 rings were won by old guard ownership, 3 of whom (Lakers/Spurs/Nuggets) could be classified as "Mom & Pop."

- 6 rings were won by teams that had superstars force their way to them (Cavs, Lakers, Warriors, Raptors)

- 7 rings for teams that got lucky in the draft (Spurs, Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets)

So rather than bringing in people to implement a vision, it's much better to get lucky in the draft or be in position to receive the right disgruntled superstar.

You can say that those things resulted from planning, but the only documented planning was the Lakers planning to have cap space for LeBron.


I’m pretty sure that executives made the decision to draft those players. The successful franchises have the infrastructure to make those decisions. But I guess that Steve Jobs was lucky to have invented the Mac.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:56 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Interesting to watch other teams with deep pockets approach toward building their franchises. These are typically executives who get where they are by team building and bringing in top talent to implement their vision. I don’t expect Charlotte to be at the bottom very long.


Not in the NBA. Let's deconstruct:

2023 Nuggets - Stan Kronke, old time Billionaire. Team caught lightning in a bottle drafting Jokic with the 41st pick of the 2014 draft (after they drafted Doug McDermott in the lottery).

2022 Warriors - Drafted Steph Curry with the 7th pick of the 2009 draft under the ownership of Chris Cohan, who SI ranked as the 4th worst NBA owner.

2021 Bucks - Drafted Giannis with the 15th pick of the 2013 draft under the ownership of Herb Kohl, who earlier tried to sell the team to Michael Jordan.

2020 Lakers - Lebron chose us, sold the farm for AD

2019 Raptors - Rented Kawhi for a year. Owned by a mega sports comglomerate since the 90s.

2018 Warriors - KD chose to join an existing champ through a loophole in the salary cap.

2017 Warriors - see 2018 Warriors

2016 Cavs - Lebron chose them, dragged the team on his back.

2015 Warriors - see 2022 Warriors

2014 Spurs - Mom & Pop outfit tanked to get Duncan, drafted Parker with the 28th pick of the 2001 draft and Ginobili with the 57th pick of the 1999 draft.

So, in the last 10 years:

- 4 rings were won by old guard ownership, 3 of whom (Lakers/Spurs/Nuggets) could be classified as "Mom & Pop."

- 6 rings were won by teams that had superstars force their way to them (Cavs, Lakers, Warriors, Raptors)

- 7 rings for teams that got lucky in the draft (Spurs, Warriors, Bucks, Nuggets)

So rather than bringing in people to implement a vision, it's much better to get lucky in the draft or be in position to receive the right disgruntled superstar.

You can say that those things resulted from planning, but the only documented planning was the Lakers planning to have cap space for LeBron.


awesome post Doc, and to confirm what you are saying down below as well about tanking, let's talk about Wemby. If the Hornets get him Mitch keeps his job and Jordan probably never sells the team. Talk about a swing. And another once in a lifetime successful tank by Pop and the Spurs.

So you go from Lamelo/Wemby (omg) to:

selling the team, and Mitch losing his job. All because of how the balls bounced on lotto night.
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