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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:24 pm    Post subject:

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Im still trying to figure out what nation is building nukes, has “5th generation” fighters (whatever that is) that our jets are no match for, but also flies f-14’s.


definitely not any nation whose $box office we want
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:58 pm    Post subject:

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Im still trying to figure out what nation is building nukes, has “5th generation” fighters (whatever that is) that our jets are no match for, but also flies f-14’s.


I'm still trying to figure out how Goose and Mav were leading the volleyball match against Slider and Ice. Goose doesn't even lift and Mav is only 5'4" tall.

However, they decommissioned F14s around 15 years ago. Last time they were used as "Bombcats", they were fitted w/ heavier bombs to hit the non-dirt hut targets that Iraq provided us in the early 2Ks. That basically means that they were just being used as (da) mules to drop bombs by then. Still, an amazing plane for late 60s tech. I remember a Modern Marvels on the jet that went thru all the development stuff. US wanted it to counter a new line of Ruskie missiles/bombs that could theoretically wipe out a carrier group, but the F111 Aardvark didn't fit the characteristics they wanted, which were many. Nimble jet capable of dogfighting w/ a large amount of payload. It was the first jet w/ Doppler and pulse radar units and could target 6 different items from 50 feet off the ground to 80K feet and hit all of them at once. 3 types of missiles for various distances, double tail, which was a new/ish feature on jets, dual afterburner engines, titanium boxbeam that kept it all together, and a primitive computer control that automatically swept the wings based on Mach number. The Aardvark had manual wings, single tail, massive, cumbersome shape, etc. The Tomcat was probably akin to the F117A for its time. Fact that it lasted til 2006 begs the question why the F we need 5th Gen fighters, but hey. Nixon giving a bunch of them to The Shah of Iran didn't help in 79, but something covert happened where targeting modules were stripped from the Iranian jets before the Yanks got out of dodge.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:23 am    Post subject:

finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:46 am    Post subject:

C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.


Was it his son? He did the voiceover for the Val Kilmer doc, and apparently sounds just like him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:25 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.


Was it his son? He did the voiceover for the Val Kilmer doc, and apparently sounds just like him.


No, they used AI on clips of him to recreate his voice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:40 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.


Was it his son? He did the voiceover for the Val Kilmer doc, and apparently sounds just like him.


No, they used AI on clips of him to recreate his voice.


Omar, you've lost that lovin feelin. I hate it when you do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:34 pm    Post subject:

C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.

I have it on my IPTV but it's still bootleg. It's clear and has good sound but casino visuals keep popping up. I'll wait for it to play uninterrupted.

Jurassic World: Dominion was the same way. It cleared and played well. Since the original Jurassic, I really can't get into the sequels.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:55 am    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.

I have it on my IPTV but it's still bootleg. It's clear and has good sound but casino visuals keep popping up. I'll wait for it to play uninterrupted.

Jurassic World: Dominion was the same way. It cleared and played well. Since the original Jurassic, I really can't get into the sequels.

If you're not watching this movie in a theatre then you're missing out on a great experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:22 am    Post subject:

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jodeke wrote:
C M B wrote:
finally got to see it

Fun as hell. It was nice to see that they didn't try to "do too much." They even kept the same opening sequence with the original score. I didn't even mind that the main mission was a 1:1 rip of the final battle from Star Wars IV.

I got emotional during Kilmer's scene. After the movie let out, I read about his condition. The lines his character spoke were not voiced by him because he can no longer speak.

I have it on my IPTV but it's still bootleg. It's clear and has good sound but casino visuals keep popping up. I'll wait for it to play uninterrupted.

Jurassic World: Dominion was the same way. It cleared and played well. Since the original Jurassic, I really can't get into the sequels.

If you're not watching this movie in a theatre then you're missing out on a great experience.

I'm still not comfortable with confined places like theaters, gyms, grocery stores, and such. I have a monster big screen and Dolby surround sound system. I'll wait
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:22 pm    Post subject:

Just saw a matinee of it today. (The times I've gone to the movies recently have all been matinees, as there's hardly anyone in there, which I like.) I really enjoyed it. Tom Cruise might be a weird guy, but he's on a short list of the greatest movie stars in history. He's a damn good actor, too, and I thought the scene with he and Val Kilmer was great. And though it's been 35-ish years since the first film, I thought they did a good job of really making the moviegoer feel the cross that his character has had to bear over Goose's death, and then with holding back Goose's son's career (at the request of his mother).

I agree with prior comments in the thread that Glenn Powell has obvious star power, and that Monica Barbaro is excellent. As far as how good Cruise and Connelly looked, it is probably worth pointing out that this movie was shot in 2019, but yes, they look great on camera. So does Jay Ellis, but that's another story.

It's made about $800MM worldwide already. Cruise's personal net worth is going to skyrocket from this film, because it's been reported that he will get 20% first-dollar gross. Which means that he will personally make $200MM once the movie hits a billion in gross, which it almost certainly will.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:23 am    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
Just saw a matinee of it today. (The times I've gone to the movies recently have all been matinees, as there's hardly anyone in there, which I like.) I really enjoyed it. Tom Cruise might be a weird guy, but he's on a short list of the greatest movie stars in history.


I see what you did there . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:39 pm    Post subject:

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ChickenStu wrote:
Just saw a matinee of it today. (The times I've gone to the movies recently have all been matinees, as there's hardly anyone in there, which I like.) I really enjoyed it. Tom Cruise might be a weird guy, but he's on a short list of the greatest movie stars in history.


I see what you did there . . .


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:00 am    Post subject:

A ten point overview of Maverick from one of the best critics out there, Adam Nayman:
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7. John Hamm is a TV actor
Speaking of intentional: the CO who most wants to bust Maverick’s ass is played by Jon Hamm, who became famous too late in his career to be the next Tom Cruise and is also widely considered to be a “better”—or more “nuanced”—actor than Cruise owing to the Emmys he won for Mad Men (a show I have not watched all the way through). Whenever I see Hamm in movies, I see, fairly or not, the Face of Prestige Television (which was not true of James Gandolfini, a great actor regardless of medium), and so his scenes with Cruise are rife with subtext. Other people have analyzed Top Gun: Maverick as an allegory in which Pete Mitchell is not only the only guy who can fly Mach 10, train a team of pilots to blow up an Enemy uranium stronghold, and tame Jennifer Connelly, but he’s also a symbolic figure holding the line against the dronification of warfare, which is to say, the dronification of moviemaking itself. When he stares down Ed Harris, it’s a reference to the latter’s performance as Chuck Yeager in The Right Stuff; when he stares down John Hamm, however, he’s defending the honor of old-fashioned, self-contained, money-at-the-concession-stand movies—which Tom Cruise loves—against the luxurious, insidious passivity of serialized, longform, visually drab Prestige Television. Eventually, Hamm’s character sees the light, but he’s not one of the film’s many heroes; he’s an avatar of an inferior entertainment-delivery device who gets put in his place; Tom Cruise, who supposedly goes to every new release in disguise in order to sample the wares, doesn’t even own a TV. This is what gives him his edge.

https://reclinermag.com/issue/3/sportscenter/adam-nayman-ten-observations-about-top-gun-maverick/
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