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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:56 am    Post subject:

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On the Bogdanovic deal, FRP my ass

It’s so funny how teams try to swindle FRPs from the Lakers because they have seen the stupidity and now that the Lakers aren’t being stupid, you see the real market value of these role players.


The first round picks are the Laker’s only assets.


And? The bottom line is no one is giving up an FRP for these role players.

So if the Lakers FO is willing to give up 1, that’s better than the rest of the league.

I’m happy the Lakers aren’t giving up 2 FRPs. That’s just pure stupidity particularly when no one is offering 1.


I agree, there has been no rumored trade worth a first round pick, let alone two.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:00 am    Post subject:

Did the Lakers even offer 1 FRP for Bojan, et. al.? Seems like Danny would have taken 1 FRP over none.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:02 am    Post subject:

Always happens when the Lakers are after a certain player another team pops up out of no where and gets that player.
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I'm hearing that the woman, is former WNBA player Allison Feaster.


Nope already been clarified it’s not her

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1572975608577290240?s=21&t=9SDCgeXIO7b5yR3O8c8yMw
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:02 am    Post subject:

Bogi maaaaaaaay have been worth a late first if you squint as a contender, but the problem is sending out commensurate salary if you're that tier of team. Who do you have to match salay that's makes the same or less and is expiring and isn't valuable to your team? It was pretty obvious if you spent a few minutes looking around the league that no such team existed.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:03 am    Post subject:

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Did the Lakers even offer 1 FRP for Bojan, et. al.? Seems like Danny would have taken 1 FRP over none.


That JazzNotes Twitter account seemed to suggest last week that the Lakers were unwilling to include draft compensation without Vanderbilt included in the deal.

Perhaps they stood firm on that, and Danny moved on when Pelinka made it clear they wouldn’t budge.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:03 am    Post subject:

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Did the Lakers even offer 1 FRP for Bojan, et. al.? Seems like Danny would have taken 1 FRP over none.


There hasn’t been anything concrete that the Lakers have offered any FRPs for anyone this summer. It has mostly been hinted or implied. There was one report that said they offered 1 for Myles/Buddy but the reporting surrounding that deal has been inconsistent and varied. It seems pretty clear they don’t want to trade those picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:06 am    Post subject:

Plot twist!

Udoka quits
Boston signs Vogel
Vogel wins the championship

LG implodes


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:06 am    Post subject:

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I'm hearing that the woman, is former WNBA player Allison Feaster.


Nope already been clarified it’s not her

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1572975608577290240?s=21&t=9SDCgeXIO7b5yR3O8c8yMw



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:06 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers should look into withholding revenue from the collective revenue sharing until teams agree to negotiate in good faith.

Its unacceptable to demand ridiculously higher assets from one team simply because they win, only to go on and accept deals for fractions of what they ask of the Lakers.

It's several small market teams negotiating in bad faith while expecting revenue sharing from the Lakers. They dont do this with any other team and it's ridiculous. Not saying they HAVE to trade with us on our terms but there needs to be a fair negotiation process and it can't be ao stark a difference between the asking price for one team vs another.

It's starting to look like collusion to prevent the Lakers from competing


And the league will declare the Lakers in default of their franchise agreement and take over the team. They will then sell it, take the owed money and give the Buss' the FMV of the team (which is likely lower than the sale price).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:11 am    Post subject:

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Plot twist!

Udoka quits
Boston signs Vogel
Vogel wins the championship

LG implodes



Vogel would be so good for their defense
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:12 am    Post subject:

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Plot twist!

Udoka quits
Boston signs Vogel
Vogel wins the championship

LG implodes




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Don't be surprised if Frank Vogel is considered for the Celtics bench. Joe Mazzulla is expected to be elevated, but the staff is thin with head coaching experience. Vogel has a longstanding relationship with Brad Stevens.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:16 am    Post subject:

levon wrote:
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Plot twist!

Udoka quits
Boston signs Vogel
Vogel wins the championship

LG implodes



Vogel would be so good for their defense


Over Quinn?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:16 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Plot twist!

Udoka quits
Boston signs Vogel
Vogel wins the championship

LG implodes




The funny part of that is all the criticisms that Vogel was subjected to by likely the same fans imploding.

Still annoyed by this dumb *** move. Scapegoating Vogel for the deficiencies of the non defensive and entitled roster was just stupid.

If it was not the Celtics, there would be a part of me saying it served the Lakers right for their decision.

But Celtics, no way! Hope this drama undermines their season, roster and foreseeable future.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:18 am    Post subject:

Ah. So the Cs want Quinn.
But need a way to get out of Udoka.
The ultimate thirst trap plan.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:20 am    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Harlemlakerfan wrote:
I'm hearing that the woman, is former WNBA player Allison Feaster.


Nope already been clarified it’s not her

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1572975608577290240?s=21&t=9SDCgeXIO7b5yR3O8c8yMw


Celtics fans are speculating it's Kathleen Nimmo-Lynch. Former Personal Assistant to Brad Stephens. Her Linked-In page seems to have been recently (this morning) deleted.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:24 am    Post subject:

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I'm hearing that the woman, is former WNBA player Allison Feaster.


Nope already been clarified it’s not her

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1572975608577290240?s=21&t=9SDCgeXIO7b5yR3O8c8yMw


Celtics fans are speculating it's Kathleen Nimmo-Lynch. Former Personal Assistant to Brad Stephens. Her Linked-In page seems to have been recently (this morning) deleted.


Yeah a lot of speculation who.

I personally will refrain from guessing until it’s reported.

Dragging women’s names on speculation is super irresponsible.

(Speaking on the Twitter folks not you)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:28 am    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
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Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Harlemlakerfan wrote:
I'm hearing that the woman, is former WNBA player Allison Feaster.


Nope already been clarified it’s not her

https://twitter.com/marcjspears/status/1572975608577290240?s=21&t=9SDCgeXIO7b5yR3O8c8yMw


Celtics fans are speculating it's Kathleen Nimmo-Lynch. Former Personal Assistant to Brad Stephens. Her Linked-In page seems to have been recently (this morning) deleted.


Yeah a lot of speculation who.

I personally will refrain from guessing until it’s reported.

Dragging women’s names on speculation is super irresponsible.

(Speaking on the Twitter folks not you)


People just gonna be people. The person who (bleep) up is Ime and the Celtics for releasing this information in the most slapdash way possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:30 am    Post subject:

Quinn Snyder is still eyeing the SA job once Pop calls it quits.

So likely Frank Vogel will become the lead assistant in Beantown.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:30 am    Post subject:

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On the Bogdanovic deal, FRP my ass

It’s so funny how teams try to swindle FRPs from the Lakers because they have seen the stupidity and now that the Lakers aren’t being stupid, you see the real market value of these role players.


The first round picks are the Laker’s only assets.


And? The bottom line is no one is giving up an FRP for these role players.

So if the Lakers FO is willing to give up 1, that’s better than the rest of the league.

I’m happy the Lakers aren’t giving up 2 FRPs. That’s just pure stupidity particularly when no one is offering 1.


I agree, there has been no rumored trade worth a first round pick, let alone two.


It ain’t that Russ has no value teams are just charging a Laker Tax. Kelly ain’t a better asset than Russ
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:33 am    Post subject:

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On the Bogdanovic deal, FRP my ass

It’s so funny how teams try to swindle FRPs from the Lakers because they have seen the stupidity and now that the Lakers aren’t being stupid, you see the real market value of these role players.


They got a player they wanted, and they didn't eat the Westbrook contract. This is just further confirmation of how Westbrook's contract is viewed, as if we needed it.


I’m talking an FRP for Bogdanovic as the demand.

Even the Phoenix Suns didn’t send a late FRP.

Once again, no one is giving FRPs for Turner, Hield or any of these other guys. Russ or no Russ, the Lakers are the only ones offering FRP and it seems they are foolish enough to add another FRP with protections.


I'm not sure what you mean. We couldn't have traded a FRP for Bojan. It had to be a Westbrook trade, and that accounts for one FRP. Utah is over the cap, so they would have needed to send us matching salaries. This would have needed to be more than Westbrook's salary, or else Utah would have gone into the luxury tax. They weren't going to send us those players for free, and we had nothing else to offer that they wanted other than the second FRP.

We weren't willing to send the second pick. That's a reasonable decision in my opinion. However, it is a different matter to say that the Jazz wanted a FRP for Bojan. It you want to draw a conclusion from this, it should be that the Jazz weren't interested in anything else that we had.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:34 am    Post subject:

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On the Bogdanovic deal, FRP my ass

It’s so funny how teams try to swindle FRPs from the Lakers because they have seen the stupidity and now that the Lakers aren’t being stupid, you see the real market value of these role players.


The first round picks are the Laker’s only assets.


And? The bottom line is no one is giving up an FRP for these role players.

So if the Lakers FO is willing to give up 1, that’s better than the rest of the league.

I’m happy the Lakers aren’t giving up 2 FRPs. That’s just pure stupidity particularly when no one is offering 1.


I agree, there has been no rumored trade worth a first round pick, let alone two.


It ain’t that Russ has no value teams are just charging a Laker Tax. Kelly ain’t a better asset than Russ


Kelly doesn’t make $47 mil and trigger the luxury tax
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:34 am    Post subject:

Not that I enjoy seeing this stuff get played out in the media, but I won't say I am at all unhappy about knowing the Celtics coaching situation is in disarray.

I think the easiest thing for them is Stevens to go back and coach a year, until they figure it out.

For Vogel, if anyone knows. Would he get to double dip? I think he'd have to give up some of that salary Lakers owe him, or are coaches allowed to double dip?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:35 am    Post subject:

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It ain’t that Russ has no value teams are just charging a Laker Tax. Kelly ain’t a better asset than Russ


A Laker Tax would suggest that teams that want to deal with the Lakers don’t because they’re the Lakers and/or they would take worse deals than what we are offering because we’re the Lakers. It’s a preposterous idea. I understand it gives comfort to those that don’t want to accept that some teams just aren’t interested in what we are selling.

As for Russ’ value, I don’t know how much more we need to see here. He has worse than no value at this contract number. He has negative value. We can’t give him away.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:38 am    Post subject:

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Quinn Snyder is still eyeing the SA job once Pop calls it quits.

So likely Frank Vogel will become the lead assistant in Beantown.


Oh is he?
That's an interesting tidbit.
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