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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- KINGS - 12-21-22 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

No Defense... The Kings offense had their way with the Lakers.

The Lakers gave up 41 points in the second quarter. At the close of the half, the defense was foul-prone and gave up threes as the Kings offense scored efficiently.

You’d think the Lakers would come out with a defensive-minded effort in the second half. Instead, they gave up another 40 points in the third.

With no AD, Reaves or Russ, things really got out of hand as both LeBron and Dennis sat in the third quarter. The Kings would run off an 18-2 run over 4 minutes and push out to a 20+ point lead.

The Laker guards were either getting overpowered or not paying attention. The bigs struggled to control Sabonis on the boards (7 offensive and 21 in total for him). They also sent too much help on his drives and he picked apart the defense with 12 assists.

Down 20 heading into the fourth, the game was all but over.

There was a little late-game stupidity by the Kings that could have cut the lead significantly. The score was 126-110, the Lakers drew a clear-path foul and then two techs on Fox. That’s four freethrows and the ball. The Lakers were on a 10-3 run. This could potentially be a 7-point possession that could cut the lead to 9 with 3:10 left. (Dennis missed a FT and a three instead, so that was that.) The Lakers fell 134-120.


LeBron -- -- Maybe he needed a little more fire power out there with him. No AD. No Russ. No Reaves. I think not having AD and Reaves really hurt, though, as we just couldn’t get any stops. He needs strong defenders around him. Defensively, a couple of nice blocks, including rejecting a shot into the second row. But not a lot of good plays on that end for L.A. He had 19 points on 8-13 shooting in the first half, including a massive dunk in transition in the first half. That fade across the lane is looking like money lately. The Stats: He scored 31 points on 11-21 shooting (0-4 from three, 9-10 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 11 assists, 3 blocks and 2 turnovers in 34 minutes. He was a -4.

Walker IV -- -- Some awful D to start the second half. He gave up a couple of dunks and a three. The second dunk forced a timeout as he was ball watching while his man cut baseline to take a pass. After a 41-point second quarter, you need to come out defensive-minded. Offensively, he’d knock down a few threes. That shot has been looking smooth. He also scored a short bank on the drive, finish another drive and earned some FTs attacking. The Stats: He scored 19 points on 6-13 shooting (3-6 from three, 4-4 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 36 minutes. He was a -15.

Schröder -- -- Not big enough to handle Fox in the paint at times. He would just back him down and go to the turnaround for easy buckets. The Kings went to that in the middle of a Laker run in the third quarter and were able to keep the Lakers from making up ground. Huerter also worked on him, as well, in that stretch. Dennis was fighting back offensively with a couple of threes and setting up teammates for scores. As soon as he sat, the Laker scoring slowed down but the Kings scored at will and the Lakers fell back by their biggest margin. I like that he’s picking up the aggressiveness with the team short-handed. We definitely need it, but the inability to get stops tonight was painful. The Stats: He scored 18 points on 6-13 shooting (2-4 from three, 4-6 from the line) to go with 1 board, 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 4 fouls in 30 minutes. He was a -8.

Bryant -- -- The team seemed too concerned with helping on Sabonis in the paint. We’d let him get a running start into the offensive zone, our defense would instantly collapse and time and time again, it would result in a kickout to an open shooter. I guess not a lot of confidence in Bryant getting stops, but they never really gave him a chance to try. Offensively, strong night again from Bryant as that three ball was falling. He’d hit a couple as well as a midrange jumper. He’d also get set up for some easy dunks off drive-and-dish type of plays. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 6-9 shooting (2-2 from three, 3-4 from the line) to go with 10 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 turnover and 5 fouls in 29 minutes. He was a -13.

Beverley -- -- He was a little more aggressive than usual with Huerter defending him. In the first half, he had 8 points on 3-4 shooter. He’d bury a three in the second half. He’d hit an awkward hook in the post after picking up his dribble on a drive. Defensively, some moments of disruption (drawing a charge, getting a steal), but even some miscues like not paying attention to give up a wide open three. So not a big impact on the game. He led the team in minutes. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 5-7 shooting (1-2 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 3 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers and 3 fouls in 37 minutes. He was a -15.

Brown -- -- He’s just not making much of an impact out there. Some nice little plays, like boxouts and finishing a drive on the break. But really little that was noteworthy. He’d hit a garbage-time three and also threw an awful pass on the two-man game that was easily stolen. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 2-7 shooting (1-3 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 15 minutes. He was a -9.

Gabriel -- -- He struggled a bit controlling the boards. Offensively, he was set up for a couple of And-1 layups off the two-man game. One from Dennis and another from LeBron as they worked a deep pick and roll. He got tagged for a flagrant-1 trying to challenge a shot under the hoop. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 3-4 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 5 fouls in 16 minutes. He was a +0.

Christie -- -- He swished both threes he attempted in the first half. Really not much going on in this one. I’d like to see them get him some more touches when he’s got it going. During the game, they talked about how Christie’s shot has changed (getting it more on the fingertips instead of the palm of his hand). The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-3 shooting (2-2 from three) to go with 4 boards, 3 assists and 2 fouls in 26 minutes. He was a -16.

Nunn -- -- One of those games where the +/- tells you nothing. He led the team with a +6 while going 0-6 with a turnover. Some poor shot selection at times. He had a series of missed or blocked layups to start the fourth quarter. Any chance of a run felt slim after missing those three in a row. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-6 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 1 turnover and no other stats. He was a +6.

Jones -- -- Not a lot of action against his former team. Just 6 minutes tonight and a couple of those were garbage time. The Stats: He had 2 points on 1-1 shooting to go with 3 boards and no fouls in 6 minutes. He was a +4.

Ham -- -- Key Moment: That 18-2 run in the third quarter. LeBron was off the floor, Dennis was finishing up his shift with foul trouble. While Dennis was scoring, he was giving up a lot on the other end (mostly in the post). In the first half, he helped carry the Lakers while LBJ rested. During this stretch, the foul trouble caught up with him and eventually we sat him. The Lakers got crushed.

Key Substitution: With no Russ, Reaves or AD, we ended up having guys like Brown trying to create offense while LBJ and Dennis sat in that third as part of that run above. It wasn’t pretty.

Key Stats: The Lakers gave up 81 points between the second and third quarters.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 pm    Post subject:

Kendrick Nunn tonight:

0 points
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0 assists
0 steals
0 blocks
0/6 FG
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:10 pm    Post subject:

^^^ Nunn did get a fumbling turnover, so he appeared on the stat sheet for something.

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With 120 points the Lakers outscored eight other teams that actually won tonight, and still lost handily because of the horrific defense. Especially with AD out, the primary weakness of this squad when on the floor is so ridiculously obvious - stopping the other team from scoring so easily.

Defensive size and ability is desperately needed, Pelinka.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:32 pm    Post subject:

They say the definition of INSANITY is doing the same thing over and over - and expecting different results.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: The 2022-2023 Lakers.............

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:55 pm    Post subject:

Our lack of talent and skill offensively and defensively at both forward positions is glaring, even when we're 100% healthy, and we saw it tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:59 pm    Post subject:

Walker had me screaming at my TV for him to get the eff off the floor in the third, so that was something exciting I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:55 am    Post subject:

Thanks, DB. And, sorry you watched this one. It was ugly. Pretty much a continuation from the Suns game...just with LeBron.

All these last two games did was show how bad a half court team we are, on offense. We weren't a good half court team, when we were fully healthy. When you're missing AD, Russ, and Reaves...welp, this. Agree with all your points about the reasons for our lack of defense.

One thing I would have done to help the offense...as best one can...is stagger LeBron, and Schroder's, time on the floor. Seeing as they're the only facilitators we have left, if LeBron is starting, then Schroder comes off the bench. That way, there's always someone to organize things on that end.

No big. Injuries suck, but its part of the game. Not the end of the world. Stay positive. Lakers!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:09 am    Post subject:

You're a trooper DB. Thanks for your tenacity.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:52 am    Post subject:

For a roster whose flaws were mainly self inflicted, the Nunn situation is so frustrating and unfortunate. Congrats on your $10M
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:07 am    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Kendrick Nunn tonight:

0 points
0 rebounds
0 assists
0 steals
0 blocks
0/6 FG


dude tunnel vision trying to score every game, never pass
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:08 am    Post subject:

Kendrick Nunn tonight:

0 points
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0/6 FG
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:49 am    Post subject:

0-2 sans AD so far, not competitive on both, not looking good
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:02 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:03 am    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
They say the definition of INSANITY is doing the same thing over and over - and expecting different results.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: The 2021-2023 Lakers.............

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:10 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB

This game (and really the season overall so far)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:20 am    Post subject:

you made it sound better than the game was for us. I have a hard time believing we turn anything around without AD or an unsuspecting trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Today’s game highlight how dependent our reserves are on AD/LBJ/Westbrook to create opportunities

As Luka to Jokic to Curry (Dubs are below .500) and others are critical to achieving any success (getting any wins), so are the Lakers with their superstars

Silver lining is that with the Western Conference so bunched together, Lakers are still not very far to being in the playoffs.

We’ve identified that
* Nunn should be renamed None
* Reeves is invaluable
* Gabriel and Bryant represent energy
* Brown is invisible
* Schroeder is Short Stuff
* PatBev is Irritating (Good and Bad)
* Walker Jr is Inconsistent
* Jones is filler
* Christie is promising
* Toscano-Anderson is MIA
* Pippen is a VanVleet Wannabee
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:48 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Today’s game highlight how dependent our reserves are on AD/LBJ/Westbrook to create opportunities

As Luka to Jokic to Curry (Dubs are below .500) and others are critical to achieving any success (getting any wins), so are the Lakers with their superstars

Silver lining is that with the Western Conference so bunched together, Lakers are still not very far to being in the playoffs.

We’ve identified that
* Nunn should be renamed None
* Reeves is invaluable
* Gabriel and Bryant represent energy
* Brown is invisible
* Schroeder is Short Stuff
* PatBev is Irritating (Good and Bad)
* Walker Jr is Inconsistent
* Jones is filler
* Christie is promising
* Toscano-Anderson is MIA
* Pippen is a VanVleet Wannabee


Lol, on point.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:11 am    Post subject:

ElginBaylor wrote:
You're a trooper DB. Thanks for your tenacity.


After last season, this season is starting to feel tougher and tougher to get through.

I like this team better, but they are mentally fatiguing, lol.
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