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sonic the laker Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:25 am Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | ^ This is too thin at the 5. Thomas Bryant isn't a playoff calibre big. We need a solid defensive backup 5. |
Disagree. Bryant is a quality offensive big, off the bench. I don't see any problem with him being productive in the post season, if the Lakers make it. That said, I've stated my hope that Rob is able to make a deal with the Magic for Mo Bamba, similar to the deal with the Wizards for Rui. Another young quality big, with upside, that can solidify the F/C position in case of another AD injury.
As for optimal lineups with the current players, barring any moves...:
PG- Schroder, Russ, Bev
SG- Reaves, Walker, Christie
SF- Rui, Troy, JTA
PF- LeBron, Wenyen
C- AD, Bryant _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:02 am Post subject: |
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When AR and Lonnie come back, we probably go to a 10 man lineup.
One good thing about having these playable guards, is that they can go all out, especially on defense in shorter spurts. Even go with rotating 7 guys in the guard and sf positions.
Great options for Ham to play with. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:32 am Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | When AR and Lonnie come back, we probably go to a 10 man lineup.
One good thing about having these playable guards, is that they can go all out, especially on defense in shorter spurts. Even go with rotating 7 guys in the guard and sf positions.
Great options for Ham to play with. |
Coach Ham here
Schroder/Russ/Bev (only 1!)
Reaves/Walker IV
Lebron/Brown Jr./Christie
Rui/AD/Toscano
AD/Bryant/Gabriel/Jones
Hopefully improving that Russ/Bev into a better shooter. Also, please no more Russ to close games! |
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:50 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | epic_ wrote: | When AR and Lonnie come back, we probably go to a 10 man lineup.
One good thing about having these playable guards, is that they can go all out, especially on defense in shorter spurts. Even go with rotating 7 guys in the guard and sf positions.
Great options for Ham to play with. |
Coach Ham here
Schroder/Russ/Bev (only 1!)
Reaves/Walker IV
Lebron/Brown Jr./Christie
Rui/AD/Toscano
AD/Bryant/Gabriel/Jones
Hopefully improving that Russ/Bev into a better shooter. Also, please no more Russ to close games! |
Sexy
Best line up possible. I'd like to see Gabriel gettinf minutes some how. He is better than Brown on offense and is an even better 3pt shooter but can he defend SF? His length would be criminal at the back up 3. |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:55 am Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | When AR and Lonnie come back, we probably go to a 10 man lineup.
One good thing about having these playable guards, is that they can go all out, especially on defense in shorter spurts. Even go with rotating 7 guys in the guard and sf positions.
Great options for Ham to play with. |
At full health, after Bron and AD who are you sitting out of:
TB
Rui, Wenyen
Brown, Max
Lonnie, AR
Bev, Russ, Schro
Wenyen and Max are probably the most likely. That said, injuries will still happen and Bron/AD will get occasional "rest" days so I feel the two of them would still get time. Wenyen may came in handy especially in the playoffs at center when teams tend to downsize. Without trying to hijack the thread, our roster still screams imbalance. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:13 am Post subject: |
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scout_0 wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | epic_ wrote: | When AR and Lonnie come back, we probably go to a 10 man lineup.
One good thing about having these playable guards, is that they can go all out, especially on defense in shorter spurts. Even go with rotating 7 guys in the guard and sf positions.
Great options for Ham to play with. |
Coach Ham here
Schroder/Russ/Bev (only 1!)
Reaves/Walker IV
Lebron/Brown Jr./Christie
Rui/AD/Toscano
AD/Bryant/Gabriel/Jones
Hopefully improving that Russ/Bev into a better shooter. Also, please no more Russ to close games! |
Sexy
Best line up possible. I'd like to see Gabriel gettinf minutes some how. He is better than Brown on offense and is an even better 3pt shooter but can he defend SF? His length would be criminal at the back up 3. |
Yeah Gabriel can play 3/4/5 imo depending on the situation, opponent, etc. I just placed him at the 5 because Jones has fallen out of the rotation so really Bryant and Gabriel are our 2 โ5sโ but yeah Gabriel is easy to slot anywhere 3-5 and obviously no issues with him at 4 or 5 really. |
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Inverse Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Huge Trade today! Kind of nervous though w Ham at the helm. but with that said, what does our lineup look like along with rotations? If it was up to me
PG: DLO
SG: Beasley
SF: Rui
PF: LeBron
C : AD
^ Starting 5 is solid and is probably our best 5. The team is arguably the best in the league if playing to their potential.
The bench rotation is a bit hairy though. not sure what it looks like with vanderbilt as im not familiar w his game but he seems like a capable scorer and defender. W that said, and current roster, i think 2nd string should be
PG: Shroder
SG: Lonnie
SF: AR15
PF: Vanderbilt
C: TB
Out of rotation/situational players - pat bev, max christie, TBJ, wenyen _________________ He's my GOAT |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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DLO
Beasley
Vandy
Lebron
AD
I'd be good w/ this lineup.
I know people like Rui, but we need a hustle wing next to AD and Lebron.
He and AD will help cover the defensive deficiencies of DLO and Beas. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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Inverse Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Vanderbilt kills the spacing in that lineup. Still think Rui is the real deal and his value will shine as the games go on _________________ He's my GOAT |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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DLO
Beasley
Rui
AD
bron
So much spacing for bron and AD
Iโd bring in TB and Vanderbilt off the bench together.
DLo and Beasley are good shooters
Rui is average to decent |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Inverse wrote: | Huge Trade today! Kind of nervous though w Ham at the helm. but with that said, what does our lineup look like along with rotations? If it was up to me
PG: DLO
SG: Beasley
SF: Rui
PF: LeBron
C : AD
^ Starting 5 is solid and is probably our best 5. The team is arguably the best in the league if playing to their potential.
The bench rotation is a bit hairy though. not sure what it looks like with vanderbilt as im not familiar w his game but he seems like a capable scorer and defender. W that said, and current roster, i think 2nd string should be
PG: Shroder
SG: Lonnie
SF: AR15
PF: Vanderbilt
C: TB
Out of rotation/situational players - pat bev, max christie, TBJ, wenyen |
I hope they trade walker and give those minutes to max |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | DLO
Beasley
Vandy
Lebron
AD
I'd be good w/ this lineup.
I know people like Rui, but we need a hustle wing next to AD and Lebron.
He and AD will help cover the defensive deficiencies of DLO and Beas. |
Can't believe we landed 3 starters, rid ourselves of WB and got the top 4 protection on the pick.
I like Rui as a bench scorer, maybe stagger LBJ minutes with shooters and AD and DLO together more. Vandy needs to start to help compensate for the rough backcourt defense. |
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Hanging from Rafters Star Player
Joined: 31 Jul 2018 Posts: 4294
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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I really like the new additions to the team:
DLo instead of WB
Beasley instead of Nunn
Vanderbilt instead of JTA
Hachi instead of DJones
Scared that Hamโs starting backcourt is still hereโฆhe might be tempted to stick with themโฆSchroeder at PG, Bev at SG. Also I still have fears that he will play any three or four of these guards at a timeโฆDLo/DS/Bev, Beasley/Walker/Reaves to stick with his failed dominant guard line-ups.
However, Rob pleasantly shocked me so Iโm optimistic that Ham will too and use three of these at all times: Vandy, Hachi, TBjr, Gabriel with AD/LBJ/Bryant
No more 3 guards!!! _________________ โWhen it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like itโs a goal that canโt be denied. I didnโt see that this off season.โ |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hope Ham will try this menacing defender lineup of
Schroeder
Reaves
Troy
Van
Gabriel |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Okay so let's break down how the lineups can look like. I get a sinking feeling Ham is going to start Schroeder with Russell... but let's just assume he isn't.. for once...
Starters:
D"Angelo Russell
Lonnie Walker IV
LeBron James
Jarred Vanderbilt
Anthony Davis
Bench:
Dennis Schroeder / Patrick Beverley
Austin Reaves / Malik Beasley
Rui Hachimura / Troy Brown Jr.
Wenyen Gabriel
Thomas Bryant
There's our 12 person rotation right there. Three point shooting from the 1 and the 2 in the starting lineup, defense from the 4 and the 5. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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alleyoop Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:28 am Post subject: |
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10-man needs to look like this tomorrow:
Russell - Beverley OR Schroder
Reaves - Beasley
Bron - newly traded in wing
Rui - Vanderbilt
AD - Bryant
Assuming no trade, though - I guess it might look like this?
Russell - Schroder
Beverley - Beasley
Bron - Reaves
Rui - Vanderbilt
AD - Bryant
With maybe Walker, TBJ, Gabriel left behind _________________ #18 next... |
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miggz23 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:54 am Post subject: |
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I looked at the new roster and im still worried with this comboโฆ
DLo/Schro/PatBev/Walker |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:35 am Post subject: |
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socalsp3 wrote: | Hope Ham will try this menacing defender lineup of
Schroeder
Reaves
Troy
Van
Gabriel |
or
Pat
Reaves
Van
Bron
AD
Defense with a decent shooting |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:36 am Post subject: |
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miggz23 wrote: | I looked at the new roster and im still worried with this comboโฆ
DLo/Schro/PatBev/Walker |
with ham 3 guard combo on this is possible ๐๐๐ |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Dlo/shroder
Reaves/Beasley
Lebron/walker/brown
Hachimura/Vanderbilt
AD/bamba/wenyen
I think bamba plays in certain matchups when we get to the playoffs but picks up a lot of DNP coaches decisions. Wenyen/Vanderbilt will play most series Imo. Walker isnโt really a 3 but I think Heโs too talented not to play, so unless heโs getting flat out cooked and we need size/defense he will get the nod for backup minutes at 3. _________________ โlike I never leftโ
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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First couple of games as guys get adjusted:
Dennis/DLO
Reaves/Beasley/Lonnie
Rui/Brown
Lebron/Vando
AD/Bamba/Gabriel
Next week into the playoffs:
DLO/Lonnie/Dennis
Reaves/Beasley
Vando/Brown
Lebron/Rui
AD/Bamba/Gabriel
What coach will play at times
Dennis
Lonnie
Beasly
Lebron
AD _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:40 am Post subject: |
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The players we saw in Game 1 of the season against the Warriors 2/11/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
D'angelo Russell
Bench
Jarred Vanderbilt
Wenyen Gabriel
Malik Beasley
Austin Reaves
Lonnie Walker IV
DNP/Injury/Suspension
Mo Bamba
Davon Reed
Max Christie
Lebron James
Closing Lineup
Anthony Davis
Rui Hachimura
Austin Reaves (replaced Brown Jr.)
D'angelo Russell
Dennis Schroder
Warriors Closing Lienup
Draymond Green
Andrew Wiggins
Klay Thompson
Donte DiVincenzo (replaced Looney)
Jordan Poole _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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Hanging from Rafters Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Time get out of denial and personal preferences (looking at me too) and start the best available line up. Dlo is the best guard on the team, Beasley is a top 5 3pt shooter in the league, they should start with AD and Lebron...Not sure if Vandi or Rui is best with the starters but given the lack of defense in the backcourt perhaps Vandi would be the better option.
Schro/Walker/Reaves/Max/TBjr/Gabriel are not NBA caliber starters. Vandi/Rui/Mo are questionable and may not be either but we hope at least one of them emerges as such. _________________ โWhen it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like itโs a goal that canโt be denied. I didnโt see that this off season.โ |
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Bron2AD Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hams lapdog is starting no matter what.
Winning is not important him starting is |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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