Who was more important to Lakers' Success (Rings) - Ron Harper or Robert Horry
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm    Post subject:

An interesting "over drinks" question. My initial reaction is Rob, but I can see why Ron would be in the discussion and preferred.

In the end, it really doesnt matter to me. A number of those players contributed in their own special way, e.g. Fox signing for less than he could have elsewhere and being a consistent player on the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:32 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Horry. This question is laughable.

Next.
Respectfully submit that if Harper didn’t do what he did, the Shaq/Kobe Era could have gone in a different direction and the opportunities for Horry to contribute wouldn’t have existed

Shaq and Kobe didn’t know how to win rings at that time

Horry definitely continued the Shaq/Kobe Legacy, maybe with more heroics. Harper was there at a strategic crossroad and time
This. They put in an offense that neither Shaq nor Kobe liked. Harper made it work.
Harper was the one that confirmed that Phil's "Blueprint" (aka The Triangle) was the way to championships because they had all the talent

Ron Harper got Shaq/Kobe over the "Jonah Complex" (phrase that Kenrick Perkins used, for another purpose, on the NBA Today program)
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The Jonah complex is the fear of success or the fear of being one's best. This fear prevents self-actualization, or the realization of one's own potential. It is the fear of one's own greatness, the evasion of one's destiny, or the avoidance of exercising one's talents.

Did Robert Horry hit an amazing shot against the Kings - Yes. Game allowed the Lakers to continue their dynasty!


I don't think it's an easy question... thus the discussion/pondering.

Kobe loved the tri... enamored with Phil as Kobe was a bball head/scholar. At that time the team wasn't Kobe's so it's not like everyone would have followed his lead. Shaq was the predominant Alpha.

Phil came in and could get's Shaq/KObe's respect due to his past success. He brought in a hobbled Ron to be his floor/locker room coach.

To me, it wasn't what he contributed in shots, stats, etc. Without Ron's influence, the Shaq, Kobe, Phil chemistry experiment could have never flourished in the immediate manner it did.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:04 am    Post subject:

Alpha wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Horry. This question is laughable.

Next.
Respectfully submit that if Harper didn’t do what he did, the Shaq/Kobe Era could have gone in a different direction and the opportunities for Horry to contribute wouldn’t have existed

Shaq and Kobe didn’t know how to win rings at that time

Horry definitely continued the Shaq/Kobe Legacy, maybe with more heroics. Harper was there at a strategic crossroad and time
This. They put in an offense that neither Shaq nor Kobe liked. Harper made it work.
Harper was the one that confirmed that Phil's "Blueprint" (aka The Triangle) was the way to championships because they had all the talent

Ron Harper got Shaq/Kobe over the "Jonah Complex" (phrase that Kenrick Perkins used, for another purpose, on the NBA Today program)
-
The Jonah complex is the fear of success or the fear of being one's best. This fear prevents self-actualization, or the realization of one's own potential. It is the fear of one's own greatness, the evasion of one's destiny, or the avoidance of exercising one's talents.

Did Robert Horry hit an amazing shot against the Kings - Yes. Game allowed the Lakers to continue their dynasty!
I don't think it's an easy question... thus the discussion/pondering.

Kobe loved the tri... enamored with Phil as Kobe was a bball head/scholar. At that time the team wasn't Kobe's so it's not like everyone would have followed his lead. Shaq was the predominant Alpha.

Phil came in and could get's Shaq/KObe's respect due to his past success. He brought in a hobbled Ron to be his floor/locker room coach.

To me, it wasn't what he contributed in shots, stats, etc. Without Ron's influence, the Shaq, Kobe, Phil chemistry experiment could have never flourished in the immediate manner it did.
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