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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:41 am    Post subject:

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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Sounds like you're not from LA.
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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Sounds like you're not from LA.


Someone needs to google "Great Western Forum".
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manlisten wrote:
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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Sounds like you're not from LA.


Someone needs to google "Great Western Forum".


Or Los Angeles Rams.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:00 am    Post subject:

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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


This is a hilariously wrong take. Have you ever been to LA?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:26 am    Post subject:

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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


This is a hilariously wrong take. Have you ever been to LA?


That is a funny take. I would understand maybe the LA Angels who are in Anaheim….a different county….but not Inglewood.
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I'm just going to say, Rob learned from the AD trade (no thanks to Magic throwing everyone into the deal and giving away leverage).

It will be different this time w/Giannis.


Uhh, this F’n narrative again!?

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Dude’s the chosen one in ducking any accountability.

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Oh and about this Giannis narrative, dude has a player opt out for the 2025/26 season, so the earliest he can threaten to walk into cap space with is 2 summers from now.

Let’s assume the cap climbs a max of 10% these next 2 seasons, the. The 2025/26 season wound reflect a salary cap of 164.56m. Meanwhile that ‘25 offseason has our cap sheet look like:

AD: 57.6m (35% max of whatever the cap is set at; also Giannis’s max #)
Rui: 18.3m
Reaves: 13.9m
Vando: ~12m (till we get solid figures in his extension)
Gabe 11.5m
JHS: 4.1m (team option)
MaxL: 2.2m (nonguaranteed)
= 119.6m in team salary for 7 players; incomplete roster (IR) charges would be about 1.36m per on a salary cap that climbed 10% these next couple years…so adding 5 IR charges, our team salary now comes to 126.38m and that would mean on a projected 164.56m salary cap, we’d only have 38.18m in practical cap space to offer Giannis to leverage Milwaukee with.

Remember dude is a 35% max player like AD, so that’s a ~20m haircut off his true max annual salary. And even if we do not exercise JHS and do not guarantee MaxL’s deals, that would only open up a net of about 2.6m in additional cap space cause you have to consider 2 more IR charges to add once we subtract JHS & MaxL out the equation.

That’s also not considering what we do with MaxC, our MLE and our FAs the summer of ‘24. It also doesn’t take into consideration which rookie picks of the 2024 & 2025 draft class we would retain on our books if they weren’t all dealt out by them.

Giannis would really have to want LA so bad, where he agrees to take a ridiculous paycut to have any type of leverage he could threaten Milwaukee with. It sounds like another fun story Rob concocted. Hey, but pass the koolaid fam!


The player that everyone is excusing is Lebron, I’m not convinced that he won’t be playing in 2025. How old was Brady during his last season? I could see Lebron matching him in age, and if he wants to remain a Laker, the Buss’ will pay him.
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Free agent G/F Kelly Oubre Jr., is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN. Oubre — who averaged 20 points for Charlotte last season — could get significant opportunity on the wing with the uncertainty around James Harden.


Players tired of waiting for Miami/Portland.
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Free agent G/F Kelly Oubre Jr., is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN. Oubre — who averaged 20 points for Charlotte last season — could get significant opportunity on the wing with the uncertainty around James Harden.


Players tired of waiting for Miami/Portland.


I read Kelly Olynk and was like wtf!?!?! The Lakers didn't sign him as a backup big lol
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:06 pm    Post subject:

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The player that everyone is excusing is Lebron, I’m not convinced that he won’t be playing in 2025. How old was Brady during his last season? I could see Lebron matching him in age, and if he wants to remain a Laker, the Buss’ will pay him.


It's possible, for sure. I'd bet against him being on the Lakers past the summer of '25, but I wouldn't feel confident about that bet.

I've run some back-of-the-envelope numbers similar to what V+ wrote. Really, the trick isn't about clearing the cap space. It wouldn't be easy, but it could be done. No, the trick is ending up with a functional roster that could contend for a title. You end up with Davis, Giannis, Reaves, maybe one of the less expensive role players, a Room Exception player, and a bunch of vet mins. That doesn't sound terrible until you consider that Davis and Giannis would overlap a lot. It wouldn't be a bad team, assuming that we made good choices on the Room Exception player and the vet mins. I just don't think that the ceiling would be as high as people would like.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:20 pm    Post subject:

I was completely wrong about Lebron coming here so I’m not making any guesses.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:18 pm    Post subject:

I thought Kelly Oubre was gonna sign with Miami? Philly is looking very dangerous with a ton of depth + Embiid looking to come into the season with a vengeance if Harden stays and he doesn’t mess things up, this might be the year the Sixers break the 2nd round curse
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:40 pm    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:
Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Sounds like you're not from LA.


I'm trying to understand why the board is saying the poster is off. I think he's saying that Giannis would rather play in LA Lakers (Downtown LA Staples) rather than SOFI Clippers (which is in Inglewood of course).

Doesn't matter, he (Giannis) ain't going nowhere if his past declaration of never joining to create a super team is still true.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:55 pm    Post subject:

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I thought Kelly Oubre was gonna sign with Miami? Philly is looking very dangerous with a ton of depth + Embiid looking to come into the season with a vengeance if Harden stays and he doesn’t mess things up, this might be the year the Sixers break the 2nd round curse


Then you come back to reality

Harden will come in out of shape. Harden will have a hammy injury. Harden will tank games.

Embid will miss games. He will be out of shape at times. He will see all his numbers drop in the playoffs. He will miss playoff games for small stuff.

Rinse and Repeat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:49 pm    Post subject:

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vasashi17+ wrote:
LakerFan1987 wrote:
I'm just going to say, Rob learned from the AD trade (no thanks to Magic throwing everyone into the deal and giving away leverage).

It will be different this time w/Giannis.


Uhh, this F’n narrative again!?

https://tenor.com/bLJBb.gif

Dude’s the chosen one in ducking any accountability.

https://tenor.com/qZES.gif

Oh and about this Giannis narrative, dude has a player opt out for the 2025/26 season, so the earliest he can threaten to walk into cap space with is 2 summers from now.

Let’s assume the cap climbs a max of 10% these next 2 seasons, the. The 2025/26 season wound reflect a salary cap of 164.56m. Meanwhile that ‘25 offseason has our cap sheet look like:

AD: 57.6m (35% max of whatever the cap is set at; also Giannis’s max #)
Rui: 18.3m
Reaves: 13.9m
Vando: ~12m (till we get solid figures in his extension)
Gabe 11.5m
JHS: 4.1m (team option)
MaxL: 2.2m (nonguaranteed)
= 119.6m in team salary for 7 players; incomplete roster (IR) charges would be about 1.36m per on a salary cap that climbed 10% these next couple years…so adding 5 IR charges, our team salary now comes to 126.38m and that would mean on a projected 164.56m salary cap, we’d only have 38.18m in practical cap space to offer Giannis to leverage Milwaukee with.

Remember dude is a 35% max player like AD, so that’s a ~20m haircut off his true max annual salary. And even if we do not exercise JHS and do not guarantee MaxL’s deals, that would only open up a net of about 2.6m in additional cap space cause you have to consider 2 more IR charges to add once we subtract JHS & MaxL out the equation.

That’s also not considering what we do with MaxC, our MLE and our FAs the summer of ‘24. It also doesn’t take into consideration which rookie picks of the 2024 & 2025 draft class we would retain on our books if they weren’t all dealt out by them.

Giannis would really have to want LA so bad, where he agrees to take a ridiculous paycut to have any type of leverage he could threaten Milwaukee with. It sounds like another fun story Rob concocted. Hey, but pass the koolaid fam!


The player that everyone is excusing is Lebron, I’m not convinced that he won’t be playing in 2025. How old was Brady during his last season? I could see Lebron matching him in age, and if he wants to remain a Laker, the Buss’ will pay him.


Between Lakers continuing to crave his star power and Lebron presumably being fine banking 40-50 million a year with no great pressure to play over 60 games a season, i assume he stays in a Laker uniform until it's time to buy the Vegas team.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:56 pm    Post subject:

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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Figure you are joking but in case you aren’t…. Inglewood is LA, everyone from California knows that. The Fabulous Forum is where the LA Lakers played for 30 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:30 pm    Post subject:

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KD at age 34 yielded a number of picks and a few young starters, one of whom is a 20 ppg scoring wing.

While not everyone would pay up what the Suns did, I think Giannis is not going to be dealt for anything short of a significant price tag. Even at his age, he's going to get you a significant amount of draft capital in 2024.

I don't see how the Bucks would even look at a Lakers deal without Reaves, 2029 pick (unprotected), JHS (if he shows he's got some NBA level ability) to be starting blocks. Even then, I'd guess it would take more draft picks and draft swaps to get the deal even close to be something they would consider. Just having the salary isn't enough. For the Bucks, in a re-build, players like Vandy/Rui/DLO are useless.


Bucks won't trade Giannis to the Lakers. They dealt Kareem to LA in 1975 and watched him win 5 rings, 3 MVPs and 13 All Star appearances.


If it's summer 2024 and all indications are Giannis is on his way out in a year, do you play it out, or deal him with a year on his deal?

I'm starting to come around to the idea that a two year window is worth it, and if he leaves after that, you accept it and hope you can get some modest assets in trade to help him get where he wants to go. The best comp is probably the deal that sent James to Miami, where Cleveland got:

- Two first-round picks (2013 and 2016)
- Cleveland swap rights first round picks with the Heat (2012)
- 2012 second-round pick Miami received from New Orleans
- Future second-round pick Heat acquired from Oklahoma City
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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KD at age 34 yielded a number of picks and a few young starters, one of whom is a 20 ppg scoring wing.

While not everyone would pay up what the Suns did, I think Giannis is not going to be dealt for anything short of a significant price tag. Even at his age, he's going to get you a significant amount of draft capital in 2024.

I don't see how the Bucks would even look at a Lakers deal without Reaves, 2029 pick (unprotected), JHS (if he shows he's got some NBA level ability) to be starting blocks. Even then, I'd guess it would take more draft picks and draft swaps to get the deal even close to be something they would consider. Just having the salary isn't enough. For the Bucks, in a re-build, players like Vandy/Rui/DLO are useless.


Bucks won't trade Giannis to the Lakers. They dealt Kareem to LA in 1975 and watched him win 5 rings, 3 MVPs and 13 All Star appearances.


If it's summer 2024 and all indications are Giannis is on his way out in a year, do you play it out, or deal him with a year on his deal?

I'm starting to come around to the idea that a two year window is worth it, and if he leaves after that, you accept it and hope you can get some modest assets in trade to help him get where he wants to go. The best comp is probably the deal that sent James to Miami, where Cleveland got:

- Two first-round picks (2013 and 2016)
- Cleveland swap rights first round picks with the Heat (2012)
- 2012 second-round pick Miami received from New Orleans
- Future second-round pick Heat acquired from Oklahoma City


Bucks will drag it out to the bitter end. They have no way of getting a player of that caliber, other than catching lightning in a bottle via the draft. He will play out his deal and Milwaukee will negotiate until he finds another team, then possibly agree to a sign-and-trade.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:18 pm    Post subject:

That's why I don't give Pelinka a lot of credit for the championship. He took over right after the Lakers had just suffered thru years of tanking amassing tons of assets and he was able to trade for AD using those assets.

Lakers currently do not have such assets in order to trade for Giannis. Only way Giannis becoming a Laker is if he gave the middle finger to Milwaukee and just opt out and sign here. I doubt he likes LA that much or hates Milwaukee that much to do that though.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:23 pm    Post subject:

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Clippers will be moving to Inglewood in 2024 so they won't be in LA anymore. Giannis wants to play in LA. Not Inglewood.


Sounds like you're not from LA.


I could walk to Crypto Arena actually. I'd rather the Clippers just use Inglewood in their name and not LA. Inglewood Clits.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:18 am    Post subject:

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I thought Kelly Oubre was gonna sign with Miami? Philly is looking very dangerous with a ton of depth + Embiid looking to come into the season with a vengeance if Harden stays and he doesn’t mess things up, this might be the year the Sixers break the 2nd round curse


Because of Oubre? We saw what happened last time he was on a winning team. He complained about having to sacrifice in the Warriors system. He doesn't really seem anything to get too excited about. He scored 20 PPG on a bad team that allowed him to shoot 17 FGA's per game while being inefficient.

I am not that impressed by their team. Their depth includes a 35, 36 and 38 year old. And Mo Bamba and Kelly Oubre who haven't really shown to be winning players. It's all on Embiid, Maxey and Tobias. We know what Harden does when he wants out.
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I thought Kelly Oubre was gonna sign with Miami? Philly is looking very dangerous with a ton of depth + Embiid looking to come into the season with a vengeance if Harden stays and he doesn’t mess things up, this might be the year the Sixers break the 2nd round curse


Because of Oubre? We saw what happened last time he was on a winning team. He complained about having to sacrifice in the Warriors system. He doesn't really seem anything to get too excited about. He scored 20 PPG on a bad team that allowed him to shoot 17 FGA's per game while being inefficient.

I am not that impressed by their team. Their depth includes a 35, 36 and 38 year old. And Mo Bamba and Kelly Oubre who haven't really shown to be winning players. It's all on Embiid, Maxey and Tobias. We know what Harden does when he wants out.


Philly has had the talent to make waves, but they just keep failing every season. They are like the Clippers of the east.
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When did Cam & Ma$e get their own pod?

Anyways, they brought in Dame…



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