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slavavov
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| 32 wrote: | | The one thing I'm concerned about for the Democrats in 2024 is inflation which includes the high price of food and gas. I'm afraid Biden is going to get unfairly blamed for this. |
Democrats have to point out exactly what Biden has done (if anything) to lower inflation, since it's MUCH lower than it was last year.
Plus, our inflation rate is MUCH lower than most other major nations, which have been dealing with the same high inflation/gas prices as we have. Democrats need to promote that fact too.
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Plus, our inflation rate is MUCH lower than most other major nations. |
this means nothing.
Inflation and immigration will haunt Biden. hopefully Trumptard is too loathed for him to overcome. as bad as it is, I cant imagine Trumptard winning.
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| Halflife wrote: | | slavavov wrote: |
Plus, our inflation rate is MUCH lower than most other major nations. |
this means nothing.
Inflation and immigration will haunt Biden. hopefully Trumptard is too loathed for him to overcome. as bad as it is, I cant imagine Trumptard winning. |
If the Orange S#!+ Gibbon wins, this country as we know it is literally over. Democracy will done, and probably irretrievably so.
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What if Newsom came on as VP for Biden. Would that help him with all the age talk?
Would it hurt his chances with the female vote?
I think Newsom is a great advocate for human rights and more well known... |
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| Halflife wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | | Plus, our inflation rate is MUCH lower than most other major nations. |
this means nothing.
Inflation and immigration will haunt Biden. hopefully Trumptard is too loathed for him to overcome. as bad as it is, I cant imagine Trumptard winning. |
I don't see why immigration would be an X factor. Republicans have been playing that game since I've been born. I don't think it'll matter more than normal.
But inflation should scare the (bleep) out of everyone who doesn't want Trump back in the White House.
With our country's lack of progressive economic policy since I've been born. With wealth and income inequality at all time highs. Adding inflation on top of all that. It's enough for people to sit out or vote out whomever is in charge out of dumb, ignorant anger.
Democracy, human rights, the environment, etc. None of it matters if people do everything right (get an education, work hard) and they are pissed because they still don't have enough $ to survive.
1959 cost of living:
https://imgur.com/a/g9AdA0G
| Quote: | 2023 inflation adj.:
new house: $130,820
salary: $52,918.80 / year ($5.09/hr) ($26.46/hr) ($25.44/hr)
new car: $23,737.50
rent: $1,023.35 / month
Harvard: $13,187.50 / year
movie ticket: $10.55
gas: $2.65 / gal
stamp: 42¢
sugar: $9.39 / 10 lbs
milk: $10.66 / gal
coffee: $10.03 / lb
bacon: $6.65 / lb
eggs: $3.06 / doz
ground beef: $6.12 / lb
bread: $2.11 / loaf |
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And to the Bill Maher's of the world who say, "just move to cheap places if you want a house for $130K". Shut the hell up. 99% of people can't get a salary close to 1/2 a new home's worth in the same area, anywhere in America.
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | What if Newsom came on as VP for Biden. Would that help him with all the age talk?
Would it hurt his chances with the female vote?
I think Newsom is a great advocate for human rights and more well known... |
Newsom, at 55, is just three years younger than Harris. How would that solve the age issue? Not to mention how a VP shift would trigger accusations of instability within the administration, then there is the whole matter of white man privilege entering it.
Bottom line , the issues Biden faces in reelection have nothing to do with Harris. In regards to questions about Biden’s age, the answer is not to switch the current VP for one only 3 years younger. The answer is for Dems to hammer on the obvious cognitive issues that Trump has test far surpass Biden’s.
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| kikanga wrote: | | And to the Bill Maher's of the world who say, "just move to cheap places if you want a house for $130K". Shut the hell up. 99% of people can't get a salary close to 1/2 a new home's worth in the same area, anywhere in America. |
It’s just another example of how Maher’s wealth and privilege have overwhelmed any liberal leanings he may have previously had, no matter how much he and his remaining fans would like to disagree.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | What if Newsom came on as VP for Biden. Would that help him with all the age talk?
Would it hurt his chances with the female vote?
I think Newsom is a great advocate for human rights and more well known... |
Newsom, at 55, is just three years younger than Harris. How would that solve the age issue? Not to mention how a VP shift would trigger accusations of instability within the administration, then there is the whole matter of white man privilege entering it.
Bottom line , the issues Biden faces in reelection have nothing to do with Harris. In regards to questions about Biden’s age, the answer is not to switch the current VP for one only 3 years younger. The answer is for Dems to hammer on the obvious cognitive issues that Trump has test far surpass Biden’s. |
People who will vote for trump don't care how senile he is. They are voting for him
1) because they arent smart
2) racist isolationists
3) out of spite
4) all the above
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| Halflife wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | What if Newsom came on as VP for Biden. Would that help him with all the age talk?
Would it hurt his chances with the female vote?
I think Newsom is a great advocate for human rights and more well known... |
Newsom, at 55, is just three years younger than Harris. How would that solve the age issue? Not to mention how a VP shift would trigger accusations of instability within the administration, then there is the whole matter of white man privilege entering it.
Bottom line , the issues Biden faces in reelection have nothing to do with Harris. In regards to questions about Biden’s age, the answer is not to switch the current VP for one only 3 years younger. The answer is for Dems to hammer on the obvious cognitive issues that Trump has test far surpass Biden’s. |
People who will vote for trump don't care how senile he is. They are voting for him
1) because they arent smart
2) racist isolationists
3) out of spite
4) all the above |
I agree completely. But that had nothing to with my point which was passing Harris over for Newsom does nothing to address concerns about Biden’s age. As we all know, there’s going to be no changing of minds in regards to Trump’s capabilities amongst Trumpies. And switching out a minority, woman VP in favor of yet another white male who is just three years younger isn’t going to move people who are focused on Biden’s age. The only way to move people who may be moved is to point out how bat $#!t crazy Trump is compared to Biden, regardless of age.
The truth is, you’re never going to move the unwavering, on either side, and you’re never going to move those who may be undecided with pointless moves like addressing Biden’s age by switching VPs sho are essentially the same age as each other.
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Old article. Interesting read. A bit lenghty.
Trump’s sister says he has ‘no principles’ and ‘you can’t trust him’
By Michael Kranish
August 22, 2020 at 9:51 p.m. EDT
LINK
An asideAG Merrick Garland House Judiciary Hearing on MSNBC CNN.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | What if Newsom came on as VP for Biden. Would that help him with all the age talk?
Would it hurt his chances with the female vote?
I think Newsom is a great advocate for human rights and more well known... |
Newsom, at 55, is just three years younger than Harris. How would that solve the age issue? Not to mention how a VP shift would trigger accusations of instability within the administration, then there is the whole matter of white man privilege entering it.
Bottom line , the issues Biden faces in reelection have nothing to do with Harris. In regards to questions about Biden’s age, the answer is not to switch the current VP for one only 3 years younger. The answer is for Dems to hammer on the obvious cognitive issues that Trump has test far surpass Biden’s. |
People who will vote for trump don't care how senile he is. They are voting for him
1) because they arent smart
2) racist isolationists
3) out of spite
4) all the above |
I agree completely. But that had nothing to with my point which was passing Harris over for Newsom does nothing to address concerns about Biden’s age. As we all know, there’s going to be no changing of minds in regards to Trump’s capabilities amongst Trumpies. And switching out a minority, woman VP in favor of yet another white male who is just three years younger isn’t going to move people who are focused on Biden’s age. The only way to move people who may be moved is to point out how bat $#!t crazy Trump is compared to Biden, regardless of age.
The truth is, you’re never going to move the unwavering, on either side, and you’re never going to move those who may be undecided with pointless moves like addressing Biden’s age by switching VPs sho are essentially the same age as each other. |
I apologize if it seemed too simplistic... I know if I was concerned about our President dying while in Office I would want to know something about his replacement
I was just looking for some star clout in the minds of both sides... Kamala might be amazing I just imagine Newsom is a bigger fighter against MAGA trash
I am going to start writing some of our Representatives and get them to start asking if Trump sold any documents.. *Hoping one MAGA family whose relatives died in a war change their minds when they start stuspecting treason instead of just "Document Horder"
Also I will ask them Why does the US President have over 500 shell companies.. gonna investigate any of those for billions in stolen Covid relief funds?
Democrats are never vocal about investigations but our media driven over caffeinated culture thrives on sound bites and nothing heard about Criminal Jared Kushner while our Presidents son and his genitals are ripped through the media
Republican crimes partially depend on Democrats Decorum
Seargeant at Arms not used once on the people who skipped out on Subpoenas for J6 or Impeachments.. Republicans would have brought a Saudi Beheader to escort a Democrat who refused subpoenas... |
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This is right on so many levels.. I hope Republicans heads explode like when the KKK got Clayton Bigsby to take off his hood 
Excellent reply I saw
| Quote: | | The honor never left the veterans who suffered this injustice. Our apologies can’t make up for the past, but maybe we’ve learned something for the future |
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2023/09/20/pentagon-to-restore-honor-to-veterans-kicked-out-over-their-sexual-orientation/
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The U.S. Department of Defense announced plans to restore honor to service members who were kicked out of the military over their sexual orientation, the agency announced on Wednesday, the 12th anniversary of the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”
“Over the past decade, we’ve tried to make it easier for service members discharged based on their sexual orientation to obtain corrective relief,” U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said in a statement.
“While this process can be difficult to navigate, we are working to make it more accessible and efficient,” he said, adding, “in the coming weeks, we will be initiating new outreach campaigns to encourage all service members and veterans who believe they have suffered an error or injustice to seek correction to their military records.” |
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old article I just saw in a search ... 1.2 billion dollar political donations.. half of Which Jared spent.. lol
^^Thought crossed my mind that this is how much they hate humans being free.. Billions and billions spent to control us and beat on people who try to Love each other..
Just thought worth sharing
https://campaignlegal.org/update/trump-campaign-shell-corporation-funneled-617-million-according-reporting-based-clc
Trump Campaign Shell Corporation Funneled $617 Million, According to Reporting Based on CLC Complaint
DECEMBER 19, 2020
| Quote: | | Now, through investigative journalism, we know that Trump son-in-law and presidential advisor Jared Kushner approved the creation of AMMC and spent almost half of the campaign’s $1.26 billion war chest. |
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| Quote: | Clarence Thomas Secretly Participated in Koch Network Donor Events
On Jan. 25, 2018, dozens of private jets descended on Palm Springs International Airport. Some of the richest people in the country were arriving for the annual winter donor summit of the Koch network, the political organization founded by libertarian billionaires Charles and David Koch. A long weekend of strategizing, relaxation in the California sun and high-dollar fundraising lay ahead.
Just after 6 p.m., a Gulfstream G200 jet touched down on the tarmac. One of the Koch network’s most powerful allies was on board: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
During the summit, the justice went to a private dinner for the network’s donors. Thomas has attended Koch donor events at least twice over the years, according to interviews with three former network employees and one major donor. The justice was brought in to speak, staffers said, in the hopes that such access would encourage donors to continue giving.
That puts Thomas in the extraordinary position of having served as a fundraising draw for a network that has brought cases before the Supreme Court, including one of the most closely watched of the upcoming term.
Thomas never reported the 2018 flight to Palm Springs on his annual financial disclosure form, an apparent violation of federal law requiring justices to report most gifts. A Koch network spokesperson said the network did not pay for the private jet. Since Thomas didn’t disclose it, it’s not clear who did pay.
Thomas’ involvement in the events is part of a yearslong, personal relationship with the Koch brothers that has remained almost entirely out of public view. It developed over years of trips to the Bohemian Grove, a secretive all-men’s retreat in Northern California. Thomas has been a regular at the Grove for two decades, where he stayed in a small camp with real estate billionaire Harlan Crow and the Kochs, according to records and people who’ve spent time with him there.
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But the code of conduct only applies to the lower courts. At the Supreme Court, justices decide what’s appropriate for themselves.
“I can’t imagine — it takes my breath away, frankly — that he would go to a Koch network event for donors,” said John E. Jones III, a retired federal judge appointed by President George W. Bush. Jones said that if he had gone to a Koch summit as a district court judge, “I’d have gotten a letter that would’ve commenced a disciplinary proceeding.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-secretly-attended-koch-brothers-donor-events-scotus |
As usual, there is much more to the article. ProPublica is doing the best investigative work right now. |
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^ Good Ol Clarence just one of the Klan
Can someone Photoshop some Klan robes and hoods on KKKlarence and friends in that propublica pic
Doubtful KKKlarence has no shame like his wife
Now Propublica has to find out how much KKKlarence helped his wife
and friends with The January 6th Terrorist Attack on America
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Quote: | Clarence Thomas Secretly Participated in Koch Network Donor Events
On Jan. 25, 2018, dozens of private jets descended on Palm Springs International Airport. Some of the richest people in the country were arriving for the annual winter donor summit of the Koch network, the political organization founded by libertarian billionaires Charles and David Koch. A long weekend of strategizing, relaxation in the California sun and high-dollar fundraising lay ahead.
Just after 6 p.m., a Gulfstream G200 jet touched down on the tarmac. One of the Koch network’s most powerful allies was on board: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
During the summit, the justice went to a private dinner for the network’s donors. Thomas has attended Koch donor events at least twice over the years, according to interviews with three former network employees and one major donor. The justice was brought in to speak, staffers said, in the hopes that such access would encourage donors to continue giving.
That puts Thomas in the extraordinary position of having served as a fundraising draw for a network that has brought cases before the Supreme Court, including one of the most closely watched of the upcoming term.
Thomas never reported the 2018 flight to Palm Springs on his annual financial disclosure form, an apparent violation of federal law requiring justices to report most gifts. A Koch network spokesperson said the network did not pay for the private jet. Since Thomas didn’t disclose it, it’s not clear who did pay.
Thomas’ involvement in the events is part of a yearslong, personal relationship with the Koch brothers that has remained almost entirely out of public view. It developed over years of trips to the Bohemian Grove, a secretive all-men’s retreat in Northern California. Thomas has been a regular at the Grove for two decades, where he stayed in a small camp with real estate billionaire Harlan Crow and the Kochs, according to records and people who’ve spent time with him there.
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But the code of conduct only applies to the lower courts. At the Supreme Court, justices decide what’s appropriate for themselves.
“I can’t imagine — it takes my breath away, frankly — that he would go to a Koch network event for donors,” said John E. Jones III, a retired federal judge appointed by President George W. Bush. Jones said that if he had gone to a Koch summit as a district court judge, “I’d have gotten a letter that would’ve commenced a disciplinary proceeding.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-secretly-attended-koch-brothers-donor-events-scotus |
As usual, there is much more to the article. ProPublica is doing the best investigative work right now. |
Hope they are already looking at Alito too. For that matter, all of them down the line, after these two who should keep journalists and government investigators busy. |
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Meanwhile,
Sen. Bob Menendez and his wife, Nadine, indicted on bribery charges
"The New Jersey Democrat and Senate Foreign Relations Committee chair had been under investigation for about a year. This is his second indictment since becoming a senator."
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| Heartburn wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Anyone have any ideas what the goal is for Republicans to start Weaponizing the DOJ against CHILDREN of Politicians??
These are sensitive issues. FAFO tests
They're treating Biden like he is Jesus?
Torturing his family to see if he will drop his values and seek Vengeance?
Is it all for show to use his son's struggles to harm Joe's reputation?
I truly was raised to hate liars and humans who abuse their power.
Watching these Republicans mindlessly senselessly violently try to destroy the good things about America is traumatizing. |
They are the White Christian Conservative party in a country that becoming less of each every hour, so they are scorching the earth in an attempt to delay the inevitable. |
They're trying to drum up an indictment or an impeachment so they can level the playing field for Trump. They know he's a criminal. If they can paint Biden as a criminal as well, they can say, "you see? same, same. Who do you trust? Me or your lyin' eyes?" |
It’s the same strategy as the climate denial guys engage in (and the anti vaxx people) They admit in many cases and display in all that they don’t have the ability to win the argument on the merits, so they are just trying to raise the idea of an argument, or in this case comparison. Lots of swing voters aren’t going to do the research and if they just default to both guys are guilty or both guys are being politically attacked, it’s a win
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Isn't this Clarence info exactly the definition of Uncle Tom
Budding up to rich whites to help them oppress his Brethren? |
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Should trigger an immediate special election |
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I like how his main criticism of the Democratic Party is "virtue signaling."
But sedition and lawlessness are apparently okay.
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Isn't this Clarence info exactly the definition of Uncle Tom
Budding up to rich whites to help them oppress his Brethren? |
Equating Clarence Thomas to Josiah Henson (Uncle Tom) discredits a slave hero. Uncle Tom was whipped to death for refusing to reveal the location of two runaway slaves. Clarence Thomas is a sell-out. Suggestion read the original Harriet Beecher Stowe version of the book Uncle Toms Cabin.
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