| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
TDRock
Retired Number
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 45806
Location: LA to the Bay
|
 Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don't think anyone was reacting with surprise that he needed to ramp up. I'll speak for myself and say that that initial released sounded like typical Lakers vague noncommittal whenever there responding to an injury. The last two posts are more of what I was expected to hear and why I was like what do you mean "as appropriate"? Like just say it lol
_________________
#IStillBelieveTaurean |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 28697
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Do not rush your return, Vando. Take all season if you need to get healthy đ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
CervantesRises
Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2016
Posts: 3861
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
All Season?
_________________
"If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
#BannersOverBillboards |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
defense
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jan 2010
Posts: 38307
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| CervantesRises wrote: | | All Season? |
nope! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
CervantesRises
Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2016
Posts: 3861
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
I guess pj ain't a Vando fan.đ¤Ł
_________________
"If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
#BannersOverBillboards |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
markjay
Star Player
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 3871
Location: O.C.
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Any update on Vando? The season is almost one quarter over. Are we sure this isn't turning into a Kendrick Nunn-type situation, where something that seems relatively minor doesnât clear up? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TDRock
Retired Number
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 45806
Location: LA to the Bay
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| markjay wrote: | | Any update on Vando? The season is almost one quarter over. Are we sure this isn't turning into a Kendrick Nunn-type situation, where something that seems relatively minor doesnât clear up? |
Nothing new on Vando in a minute. So if he has progressed to any level of meaningful on the court work they haven't reported it which is you know not the norm. The last official word was that he was doing stationary solo court work.
This was what was reported back on November 14 and they haven't said anything since:
So hopefully he's progressed since then but ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
_________________
#IStillBelieveTaurean |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
defense
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jan 2010
Posts: 38307
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Vando has the Nunn injury |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BandwagonLBJhopper
Star Player
Joined: 07 Feb 2020
Posts: 3487
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I don't trust our medical team, seems like dudes are dropping left and right |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TDRock
Retired Number
Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 45806
Location: LA to the Bay
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yay
_________________
#IStillBelieveTaurean |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Daikatana
Starting Rotation
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Posts: 657
Location: Jesus Loves You
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | I don't trust our medical team, seems like dudes are dropping left and right |
We need to pilfer the guys from Phoenix that had Steve Nash and Grant Hill kept alive 
_________________
The Gospel in a nutshell: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
defense
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jan 2010
Posts: 38307
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Progressing
So another month or 3? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
lar9149
Star Player
Joined: 10 Jul 2010
Posts: 2247
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
Glad to hear it could be coming back today.
Can't wait to see how the Lakers are with him..also to see if he and Cam play together and see how that works.
Although with minutes restrictions hard to say how much we will see. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kikanga
Retired Number
Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Posts: 28544
Location: La La Land
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
Interesting up and down for Vanderbilt.
When we gave him that 4 year $48M. Alot of people were saying "he can't shoot, he's not worth that".
Some of those same fans are now hoping he's the missing piece.
_________________
"knew I was fly when I was just a caterpillar." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
governator
Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 24076
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| kikanga wrote: | Interesting up and down for Vanderbilt.
When we gave him that 4 year $48M. Alot of people were saying "he can't shoot, he's not worth that".
Some of those same fans are now hoping he's the missing piece. |
He better be the missing piece or some of them getting traded in the next month and a half
_________________
âThe main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.â |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 28697
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 44999
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
I think itâs pretty weird that we made a decision to sign him in September basically giving us no chance to trade him this season if a opportunity was there |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 28697
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
I think itâs pretty weird that we made a decision to sign him in September basically giving us no chance to trade him this season if a opportunity was there |
Hopefully he can be packaged with JHS and make him a little more appetizing. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 44999
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I still think Vando can serve a purpose on this team btw, itâs just that our team is deep so his value might not show night in and night out |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Theseus
Franchise Player
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Posts: 12421
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| So happy to see him healthy again. Missed him a lot |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 28697
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still think Vando can serve a purpose on this team btw, itâs just that our team is deep so his value might not show night in and night out |
Agreed. I think he should have gotten JHS's minutes at the end there. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 44999
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still think Vando can serve a purpose on this team btw, itâs just that our team is deep so his value might not show night in and night out |
Agreed. I think he should have gotten JHS's minutes at the end there. |
Itâs pretty remarkable how bad JHS is lmao⌠I feel bad for him but he has a long way to go to catch up to the NBA competition |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Day
Star Player
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
Posts: 1449
Location: San Francisco, CA
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
More to the game than offense, with LeBron James, DLo, AD, and either Rui/Cam/TP there shouldn't be a problem offensively anyways and he adds so much to the defense and overall energy of the team. If having a guy that is an elite wing defender and brings hustle/energy is singularly hurting your offense that much then it's a coaching issue. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 28697
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Day wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
More to the game than offense, with LeBron James, DLo, AD, and either Rui/Cam/TP there shouldn't be a problem offensively anyways and he adds so much to the defense and overall energy of the team. If having a guy that is an elite wing defender and brings hustle/energy is singularly hurting your offense that much then it's a coaching issue. |
I don't know if you're actually watching when he's in or if the complexity of basketball is a little beyond you, because it's definitely not as simple as "there's enough guys who can score." It's about the fact those other 4 have to face 5 defenders who can take them out of their sets and force more 1 on 1 and contested jumpers as we saw. Maybe against a bad defense you don't notice it as much, but against good defenses (like we'll see in the playoffs) you will. Houston has been a top 10 D this year. They had Fred Van Vleet guarding Vanderbilt and when i say "guarding," i mean that very loosely. He was practically in the paint when Vando was in the corner.
And his defense is just not as great as you guys say it is. Not enough to justify the anti-gravity of his offense. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Day
Star Player
Joined: 12 Mar 2012
Posts: 1449
Location: San Francisco, CA
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | | Day wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | Barring him magically fixing his jumpshot, there is no room for him in the rotation. He was part of our worst stretch in the game offensively. it's just crippling letting the defense load up the way they did shading 12 feet off of him. It only makes sense to put him in the dunkers spot, where he's not even that good...and that point, why don't you just play Hayes, who can actually finish lobs?
I know we just (over)paid him, but he is a garbage time/foul trouble player to me. |
More to the game than offense, with LeBron James, DLo, AD, and either Rui/Cam/TP there shouldn't be a problem offensively anyways and he adds so much to the defense and overall energy of the team. If having a guy that is an elite wing defender and brings hustle/energy is singularly hurting your offense that much then it's a coaching issue. |
I don't know if you're actually watching when he's in or if the complexity of basketball is a little beyond you, because it's definitely not as simple as "there's enough guys who can score." It's about the fact those other 4 have to face 5 defenders who can take them out of their sets and force more 1 on 1 and contested jumpers as we saw. Maybe against a bad defense you don't notice it as much, but against good defenses (like we'll see in the playoffs) you will. Houston has been a top 10 D this year. They had Fred Van Vleet guarding Vanderbilt and when i say "guarding," i mean that very loosely. He was practically in the paint when Vando was in the corner.
And his defense is just not as great as you guys say it is. Not enough to justify the anti-gravity of his offense. |
Take the condescending tone out when you obviously have very poor reading comprehension and are judging an entirety of a players value off of one game coming back from an injury lol |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
