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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:15 pm    Post subject:

How many years does this joke of a coach get?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:23 pm    Post subject:

Ham lack of an actual offensive system will bite us in the ass. Mark it down.

It forces a ton of usage and reliance on 40 year old Lebron. That is not a winning recipe long term.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm    Post subject:

My new operating theory is this new offense is good for LeBron/ AD and bad for the rest of the team
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:07 pm    Post subject:

We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Ugh
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:17 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.

Generating or the other team just gave us them? We were generating 3s last 2 seasons too.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:18 pm    Post subject:

He better play JHS or hope Gabe comes back soon, AR needs to be the secondary ball handler on the court
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:10 am    Post subject:

Ham making bad early challenges almost cost us today. Lost it challenging a charge on AD in the first half that looked like a charge and couldn't challenge the egregiously bad charge call on AD in the 4th quarter. Just dumb.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:54 am    Post subject:

Ham really save us from defeat last night. Those who want CWood after AD fouled out, has a very short memory. CWood has had now 2 games in the season with 0 points, both of them against Houston and the first one, he was a starter.

This guy Sengun is really legit.

Those who said Ham abandoned the post game in the 4th, not really. What happened was we exploit when Sengun when out with foul problems. Then in the 4th when Sengun came back,, AD got in foul trouble himself. Those calls in the 4th to AD no challenge will have overturned neither of them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:08 am    Post subject:

Optimistic take...

We are in a good position considering all the injuries.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:33 am    Post subject:

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Optimistic take...

We are in a good position considering all the injuries.


6th in the West, 2 games out of 1st, 5-1 with the new starters and should be getting our best wing defender back soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:02 am    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.

Totally agree.
He deserves criticism for whatever is happening in the 1Q too. Bad game planning? Bad starters? IDK but it's clockwork at this point.

But overall I still think Ham is decent. And I've been beating this drum recently but man the court is wide open for LeBron to attack the basket, yeah LeBron looks fresher but he also basically only has to beat his primary defender.

You win with superstars and I like the fact that we're creating the spacing needed for LeBron to play like a superstar.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:17 am    Post subject:

tox wrote:
TheBlackMamba wrote:
We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.

Totally agree.
He deserves criticism for whatever is happening in the 1Q too. Bad game planning? Bad starters? IDK but it's clockwork at this point.

But overall I still think Ham is decent. And I've been beating this drum recently but man the court is wide open for LeBron to attack the basket, yeah LeBron looks fresher but he also basically only has to beat his primary defender.

You win with superstars and I like the fact that we're creating the spacing needed for LeBron to play like a superstar.


To add to this, unless people think we are going to remain the 4th worst 3point shooting team all season (which includes brick after brick on wide open shots) the offense is primed to start looking a lot better with the lane open even more for Bron and AD.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:26 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
tox wrote:
TheBlackMamba wrote:
We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.

Totally agree.
He deserves criticism for whatever is happening in the 1Q too. Bad game planning? Bad starters? IDK but it's clockwork at this point.

But overall I still think Ham is decent. And I've been beating this drum recently but man the court is wide open for LeBron to attack the basket, yeah LeBron looks fresher but he also basically only has to beat his primary defender.

You win with superstars and I like the fact that we're creating the spacing needed for LeBron to play like a superstar.


To add to this, unless people think we are going to remain the 4th worst 3point shooting team all season (which includes brick after brick on wide open shots) the offense is primed to start looking a lot better with the lane open even more for Bron and AD.


But is it enough to get past Denver? And then Boston/Milwaukee?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:37 pm    Post subject:

The Lakers are now a Top 10 defensive team
Unfortunately they are #24 offensively
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:39 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
tox wrote:
TheBlackMamba wrote:
We're generating open threes, so it's kind of hard to blame him for everything that goes wrong. The most frustrating thing is his continued infatuation and attachment to undeserving, underperforming vets. Prince right now, probably Vincent when he gets back.

Totally agree.
He deserves criticism for whatever is happening in the 1Q too. Bad game planning? Bad starters? IDK but it's clockwork at this point.

But overall I still think Ham is decent. And I've been beating this drum recently but man the court is wide open for LeBron to attack the basket, yeah LeBron looks fresher but he also basically only has to beat his primary defender.

You win with superstars and I like the fact that we're creating the spacing needed for LeBron to play like a superstar.


To add to this, unless people think we are going to remain the 4th worst 3point shooting team all season (which includes brick after brick on wide open shots) the offense is primed to start looking a lot better with the lane open even more for Bron and AD.

That was the vision. This team playing up to shooting potential should be deadly offensively.
I worry we will be playing non-shooters in Reddish and Vando a lot of minutes, which will in turn limit the Lakers' shooting ceiling.
(I have hope Reddish can have a playoffs hot streak enough to make him a credible threat -- think Rondo in 2020 -- though. Less hopeful about Vando)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:03 pm    Post subject:

I’m so sick of this guy, we lost so many times over helping to prevent the tie and we end up down.

Ham needs to throw that Bud philosophy out
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:06 pm    Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/daomoypmAyI





All 3 are the same shot lol
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:13 pm    Post subject:

He sucks at situational game management...

WHy keep 2 timeouts at the end there, when your oldest player who you just played the whole 4th on a back end of a b2b game looked exhausted and just spent all his energy to get you the lead?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:24 pm    Post subject:

The difference between us and other top west teams is that they could afford to not call a timeout there, they have stars that can go iso and score, we don’t (lebron is never that guy). We rely on AR/Lebron pick and roll and get things started. The last 2 offensive possessions prior to the 3 were so horribly ru.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
The difference between us and other top west teams is that they could afford to not call a timeout there, they have stars that can go iso and score, we don’t (lebron is never that guy). We rely on AR/Lebron pick and roll and get things started. The last 2 offensive possessions prior to the 3 were so horribly ru.


Watch ham on the beginning of this clip... Reason people call him pockets for a reason. Lebron was huffing walking up the ball. Call 1 of your 2 timeouts. Geez!
https://twitter.com/lewoysmithjr/status/1727566028660785510


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:38 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
The difference between us and other top west teams is that they could afford to not call a timeout there, they have stars that can go iso and score, we don’t (lebron is never that guy). We rely on AR/Lebron pick and roll and get things started. The last 2 offensive possessions prior to the 3 were so horribly ru.


Watch ham on the beginning of this clip... Reason people call him pockets for a reason. Lebron was huffing walking the ball up. 2 timeouts.
https://twitter.com/lewoysmithjr/status/1727566028660785510

Lebron just short armed the lob, I believe he would’ve gotten it to AD if the ball was 6 inches higher(another sign of fatigue)
Another way was lebron make a move to the baseline and that help defender would’ve come (yet another sign of fatigue)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:42 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
The difference between us and other top west teams is that they could afford to not call a timeout there, they have stars that can go iso and score, we don’t (lebron is never that guy). We rely on AR/Lebron pick and roll and get things started. The last 2 offensive possessions prior to the 3 were so horribly ru.


Watch ham on the beginning of this clip... Reason people call him pockets for a reason. Lebron was huffing walking the ball up. 2 timeouts.
https://twitter.com/lewoysmithjr/status/1727566028660785510

Lebron just short armed the lob, I believe he would’ve gotten it to AD if the ball was 6 inches higher(another sign of fatigue)
Another way was lebron make a move to the baseline and that help defender would’ve come (yet another sign of fatigue)


Lebron was visibly gassed. Use those damn timeouts.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:44 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
The difference between us and other top west teams is that they could afford to not call a timeout there, they have stars that can go iso and score, we don’t (lebron is never that guy). We rely on AR/Lebron pick and roll and get things started. The last 2 offensive possessions prior to the 3 were so horribly ru.


Watch ham on the beginning of this clip... Reason people call him pockets for a reason. Lebron was huffing walking the ball up. 2 timeouts.
https://twitter.com/lewoysmithjr/status/1727566028660785510

Lebron just short armed the lob, I believe he would’ve gotten it to AD if the ball was 6 inches higher(another sign of fatigue)
Another way was lebron make a move to the baseline and that help defender would’ve come (yet another sign of fatigue)


Lakers failed on that come back because they failed on all 3 phases there.

Coaching - Bad situational game management recognition. Not helping out your players there.

Defense - Up 2 points giving up a wide open 3 to one of the clutch shooter of the game. (Pissed me off the most)

Offense - Horrible execution of players there at the end. But fatigue did play a factor on both last 2 possessions.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am    Post subject:

Why he had reaves taking the ball out? Reaves should be the one shooting you know one of the best if the not best shooter on the team.
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