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lakersfan32
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| the biyombo dream is over. he signed with okc for the rest of the season |
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| lakersfan32 wrote: | | the biyombo dream is over. he signed with okc for the rest of the season |
2024 Hayes > Biyombo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | the biyombo dream is over. he signed with okc for the rest of the season |
2024 Hayes > Biyombo |
Yupe. I like the new version Hayes since Celtics game |
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What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford?
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manlisten
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford? |
LeBron is no longer a 3 and AD is no longer a 4. So they would have needed to trade a 1st round pick for a bench player.
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| slavavov wrote: | This is going to sound crazy, but if Marcus Morris can still play, maybe we should waive Cam Reddish to sign Morris.
I know Reddish, at times, can play good team defense and has decent anticipation, but besides that, he's a deadweight. Morris can hit 3s, and he has a little more size than Cam, which can help defensively.
Plus Morris used to play for the Clippers, so if we meet the Clippers in the playoffs, maybe he'd have some inside info on that team that would help. |
I don't think we should bank on Marcus Morris. So a bit of history, the Spurs got a verbal agreement from Marcus to sign with them in 2019 partnering Aldridge. The Spurs were so confident they traded David Bertans to the Wizards and freed up cap space. Marcus then backed out of the deal to sign a one year agreement with the Knicks effectively screwing the Spurs. Pop was furious.
Now for Marcus to be playoff eligible he needs to be waived before March the 1st. Guess who has their hands on Morris. Guess which fans want him waived on March the 2nd.
https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1756821938310107164 |
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lakersfan32
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford? |
richaun holmes and a 1st |
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manlisten
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Marcus Morris is not good at all. Clippers fans absolutely hated him. If you watched him play you'd understand why. He probably won't be picked up off waivers by any team.
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I think the reason why the Lakers don't pick up an average big is that they need AD out there so much that no average big is going to keep his minutes down.
AD is a DPOY level, switchable defensive big and an all-star level scorer. The Lakers just lose so much with him out that replacing him with even a decent big is too much of a downgrade.
One surprising stat I found out was that the Lakers' back up bigs actually have the 3rd and 4th best defensive ratings on the team.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/lakers-players-defensive-rating-this-season
Wood and Hayes are possibly already those decent bigs, but the Lakers don't give them more playing time because AD is just THAT valuable.
AD and LeBron's star-level play is just needed too much on this team for any decent player to be able to give them more rest.
It goes back to my argument that the only kind of players that can make a difference on this team at this point are all-star level players. |
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| lakersfan32 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford? |
richaun holmes and a 1st |
More. They traded a 2028 swap to OKC for their 2024 1st to reroute to Washington for Gafford. The plot thickens when we get to the PJ Washington trade. Over the summer they traded a 2030 pick swap to San Antonio so they could acquire Grant Williams. Now, a few months later, they traded Williams and a 2027 1st to turn him into PJ Washington. Also consider last year they traded a 1st for Christian Wood and another 1st for Kyrie who hasn’t really made them any better.
PJ and Gafford undoubtedly make them better, but that’s an awful lot of draft capital for two bench guys. This is essentially their team. When they want to improve this team they won’t have the picks to do it. Does anyone think they’re contenders? I think they may have punched Luka’s ticket out of town.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford? |
richaun holmes and a 1st |
More. They traded a 2028 swap to OKC for their 2024 1st to reroute to Washington for Gafford. The plot thickens when we get to the PJ Washington trade. Over the summer they traded a 2030 pick swap to San Antonio so they could acquire Grant Williams. Now, a few months later, they traded Williams and a 2027 1st to turn him into PJ Washington. Also consider last year they traded a 1st for Christian Wood and another 1st for Kyrie who hasn’t really made them any better.
PJ and Gafford undoubtedly make them better, but that’s an awful lot of draft capital for two bench guys. This is essentially their team. When they want to improve this team they won’t have the picks to do it. Does anyone think they’re contenders? I think they may have punched Luka’s ticket out of town. |
agree they don't have many outs left. but Luka is under contract 2 more years (player option after that). And i think he'll do what every other star does and sign the massive extension--especially when he'll be eligible to sign the biggest extension in NBA history at a reported 80 million a year.
And THEN he'll consider his options. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | What'd the Mavericks give up to land Daniel Gafford? |
richaun holmes and a 1st |
More. They traded a 2028 swap to OKC for their 2024 1st to reroute to Washington for Gafford.nyone think they’re contenders? |
Presti showing what the true utility of a 1st is. Later picks are typically replacement level players. The real value is cracks at lottery talent. That’s also why Laker 1sts post LeBron/Davis carry far more value than picks like the ones NY has, which are largely a pu pu platter. |
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Marcus Morris to Mavs too sounds like.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Clark Kent wrote: | | Marcus Morris to Mavs too sounds like. |
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| Mitch stepping down from his GM role with the Hornets |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Mitch stepping down from his GM role with the Hornets |
40.5% winning percentage at Charlotte |
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| BILBJH wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Mitch stepping down from his GM role with the Hornets |
40.5% winning percentage at Charlotte |
An accomplishment working under MJ.
“Did it, Mitch!” |
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| Nobody wants to go to charlotte. You have to build a team the old fashion way, through the draft. |
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Tbf, pre-Mitch MJ Hornets era prob had a worse winning percentage
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| Outspoken wrote: | | Nobody wants to go to charlotte. You have to build a team the old fashion way, through the draft. |
Unfortunately they drafted that non winner of a dweeb in Lamelo and missed out on Ant. Bridges has his issues and they waived Krazy Kai Jones.
Building through the draft hasn't been good to them either. |
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bucks beating down on the nuggets right now in Milwaukee lol
No surprise Brook and Giannis a tougher matchup for MVP and Gordon Jr. rather than tiny AD and Lebron.
Robin Lopez still available
DO IT ROB! |
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| BILBJH wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Mitch stepping down from his GM role with the Hornets |
40.5% winning percentage at Charlotte |
True but the LaMelo pick was a hit. The problem is he's hurt all the time, just like his brother. If Mitch was involved in drafting Brandon Miller, then he also deserves credit for that one. Scoot was the "obvious" choice at the time, but somebody saw the red flags.
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lakersfever714
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So West was the architect of the Kobe/Shaq and Kobe/Gasol dynasty, right? Not Mitch?
Having a good GM is so critical to a team's longterm and pro-longed success. Thunder, after KD/Harden/Brick era are now enjoying success again with SVG/Holmgren era.
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| BILBJH wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Mitch stepping down from his GM role with the Hornets |
40.5% winning percentage at Charlotte |
I think Mitch was a good general manager who was slotted perfectly as Jerry's right hand. Initially after West left, we still had a blueprint in place which Mitch managed well. But once that passed, it only came back around again one we dealt for Pau, which also featured West in some capacity.
By the time Jim became PBO, we lacked the person to establish the team vision and sell that to ownership. In many ways that continues to be our problem. |
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| KingKobe20 wrote: | bucks beating down on the nuggets right now in Milwaukee lol
No surprise Brook and Giannis a tougher matchup for MVP and Gordon Jr. rather than tiny AD and Lebron.
Robin Lopez still available
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KCP and Murray injured |
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