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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| TheBlackMamba wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | One of my favourite runs along with the 2008 Finals run.
I know we lost in the Finals of 2008, but that run really brought us back to where we needed to be. After the Kobe parking lot video/trade demand fiasco, FO being cheap stuff, Bynum proving himself worthy then getting hurt by Kobe falling on him, LO being well LO, getting Pau. Making the Finals that year was special to me. Always will be. I just knew we had a legit team after the way Pau/Kobe/LO played together. It was like going from having to get prepared for a long ass re-build with Luol freaking Deng to a title level team. Nothing will ever compare to on and off the chemistry Kobe/Pau/LO had.
Then the bubble run/post-Kobe death run too. It holds such a special place in my heart. The way people blasted the Lakers all 2019 offseason, only to be shocked to see how they were the best team in basketball. Lebron was alleged washed, AD we overpaid for, Frank Vogel was undermined as a choice for HC. We didn't get Kawhi or PG/3rd star. Just that group was so collective, so cohesive, so well coached that entire year. To then see Kobe's death, Covid just pause that. I really had given up hope on the Lakers ever winning another title. Then the season re-starts. We look like (bleep) in the RS games in the bubble. Then from there we somehow overcome it all and get to the finish line. It really needed to happen. For Lebron to show he's truly great/not washed, for AD to show he's worth all that investment, for Frank to show he's a legit championship level coach, for guys like Caruso, KCP, Howard to show their value and importance. Most of all, Kobe. The fact we won in those ensuing months. So much pressure on us. Will always hold a very special place for me.
I look forward to the documentary but I doubt it will be any good and really cover how challenging that year was for the Lakers. |
Amen. I loved that team. So it pisses me off all the more when idiots bring up an asterisk, as if they would have done the same had any team other than the Lakers (and Bron) won the title that year. |
+1000.
Damn right.
The defense and grit that team displayed was a treat to watch, a seminar on heart, hustle, intelligence and coordination. That is, for anyone who appreciates basketball beyond a joystick arcade game level.
The only asterisk belongs beside "basketball fans" who insist that title was not legit. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Japago wrote: | It was a championship played under unique circumstances.
I don't feel that differently about it than another other championship. I was only sad that LA didn't get a parade for it.
Every team faced the same circumstances.
In fact, the Lakers didn't get home court they earned during the season and faced a team from Florida in the finals.
Circumstances dictate changes sometimes, like lockouts shortening NBA seasons.
At least this season had an amount of regular season games fairly close to the norm. |
There wasn’t a season so the Lakers didn’t earn HCA. They might have but the season ended prematurely.
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slavavov
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| Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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2020 was a legit championship because from almost the beginning of the season (in October 2019), they looked like the best team in the NBA.
They lost on opening night to the Clippers and looked old and slow. But from that point on, they got hot and started 24-3. As they did so, you could feel it coming, that they were becoming a truly elite team.
Remember the weekend before they paused the season? In less than 48 hours, the Lakers beat the Milwaukee Bucks, who finished with the best record in the league, and the Clippers. That reinforced the notion that the Lakers were the team to beat.
This wasn't a flukey situation where they didn't do well before the pandemic and took advantage of the bubble. The Lakers became the best team in basketball starting almost 12 months before they clinched the world title.
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Batguano
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| I guarantee most of the people in this thread getting defensive about the legitimacy of the Bubble championship (or lack thereof) would be the first ones to delegitimize it had it been won by the Celtics or the Clippers… |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | I guarantee most of the people in this thread getting defensive about the legitimacy of the Bubble championship (or lack thereof) would be the first ones to delegitimize it had it been won by the Celtics or the Clippers… |
or would trade it for a title won during a traditional season. Which says all you need to know.
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Halflife wrote: | | Batguano wrote: | | I guarantee most of the people in this thread getting defensive about the legitimacy of the Bubble championship (or lack thereof) would be the first ones to delegitimize it had it been won by the Celtics or the Clippers… |
or would trade it for a title won during a traditional season. Which says all you need to know. |
Nonsense. "Trading titles" is in itself a wash. If we go make-believe world who wouldn't wish the 2020 championship series could have been played in front of healthy crowds at home arenas, and that a Covid pandemic never killed so many people? That tells you nothing.
That has nothing to do with whether the Lakers of 2020 fully deserved recognition as NBA Champions that year, and it doesn't diminish the argument that their basketball on the court, both prior to the pandemic that season and during the title run, was championship level basketball. If you return to the real world, the NBA made provisions for a championship series, the Lakers proved they were the best team in the NBA by winning that series, and the Lakers earned that title on the court with some of the best defense I've ever seen played in the NBA. Some posters simply don't recognize this.
If someone can't recognize what stellar defense looks like, or tell good defense from another team merely missing shots, that says all you need to know. |
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Anybody that wants to diminish the 2020 championship can go (bleep) themselves.
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| Halflife wrote: | | ThePageDude wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner. |
No. |
Couldn't disagree more with the OP, shamefully giving into other teams'/fanbases' envy and propaganda against the Lakers. |
No. No bigger fan of the Lakers than me, but the season shouldn't have been played. It was almost shut down, that's why a 4-month break. But the commish thought the public needed it. Maybe he was right, but by no stretch of the imagination was that championship as rigorous as a traditional one.
No travel, and no fans, guys were on camera saying they didn't want to be there, and said games were like practices. It was ideal for us. Outside of last year (1st round exit) it was the only time bron/ad played more than 65 games. Regardless of how elite we thought that team was
Dwight- out of league
Boogie out
Danny green ?
Vogel out
Its cool we got our ring count up but if there was ever an asterisk its that
year. Facts show without bubble we haven't been very good. |
No matter what the NBA did that year, no matter what people like yourself believe (which is fine as everyone has an opinion), the Lakers won the title that year because the year played out. Every team had the same chances and the same issues during that stretch....was it a normal year type of a title, of course not. But it's still a legit title just as the Spurs title in the shortened season the year they won.
Still a banner in the rafters
We can argue about half the Celtics titles in the years where there were like 8 teams in the league, but a title is a title nonetheless....at least in my opinion. 2020 was a great sports year...Lakers and Dodgers baby:)) |
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It wasn’t a great sports year, TV ratings were the lowest in decades. Which surprised me since people were told to stay home and the TV was. Their only entertainment. I know that I didn’t watch because it was NFL season, maybe there were more like me. It’s interesting that Finals ratings haven’t rebounded much since then, they are higher but still much lower than pre-2020. That is why the battle over current TV rights seem unusual, networks are paying more for less viewership.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| lakerfanaticPT wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ThePageDude wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner. |
No. |
Couldn't disagree more with the OP, shamefully giving into other teams'/fanbases' envy and propaganda against the Lakers. |
No. No bigger fan of the Lakers than me, but the season shouldn't have been played. It was almost shut down, that's why a 4-month break. But the commish thought the public needed it. Maybe he was right, but by no stretch of the imagination was that championship as rigorous as a traditional one.
No travel, and no fans, guys were on camera saying they didn't want to be there, and said games were like practices. It was ideal for us. Outside of last year (1st round exit) it was the only time bron/ad played more than 65 games. Regardless of how elite we thought that team was
Dwight- out of league
Boogie out
Danny green ?
Vogel out
Its cool we got our ring count up but if there was ever an asterisk its that
year. Facts show without bubble we haven't been very good. |
No matter what the NBA did that year, no matter what people like yourself believe (which is fine as everyone has an opinion), the Lakers won the title that year because the year played out. Every team had the same chances and the same issues during that stretch....was it a normal year type of a title, of course not. But it's still a legit title just as the Spurs title in the shortened season the year they won.
Still a banner in the rafters
We can argue about half the Celtics titles in the years where there were like 8 teams in the league, but a title is a title nonetheless....at least in my opinion. 2020 was a great sports year...Lakers and Dodgers baby:)) |
I will argue against the Celtics 8 titles before the moon landing all day. the astericked Spurs title. Yes our title counts, but its caveated with bubble title, Mickey mouse title, etc for a reason. There is a banner, just like there is an IST banner.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Batguano wrote: | | I guarantee most of the people in this thread getting defensive about the legitimacy of the Bubble championship (or lack thereof) would be the first ones to delegitimize it had it been won by the Celtics or the Clippers… |
And the folks on here delegitimizing it would be the first to legitimize it if anybody but Lebron won. |
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