I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
Why would his shot selection change? He rarely ever creates for himself or takes more than 2 dribbles to do so. It would simply be a higher volume of the shots he already takes. When Rui got at least 14 shots (14 game sample) he put up 22ppg on 55% from the field and 47% from 3. He's underutilized in the offense for how efficient he is. He definitely should be ahead of Austin in the pecking order for sure. He deserves more shots. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
Rui still needs to work on his rebounding. He is 6'9 and I believe weighs 240LBS and can't rebound.
That is terrible, and bad at defense. He just wants to play offense, specifically, score.
One of the few things Ham did right was near the end of the season he asked Hachimura to take on more of a rebounding role from the 3 position rather than hanging around the perimeter as much.
The result?
Rui averaged 17/7 across the last 13 games of the season on 56% from the field and 44% from three. That's why his drop off once the Playoffs started felt so severe. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Rui still needs to work on his rebounding. He is 6'9 and I believe weighs 240LBS and can't rebound.
That is terrible, and bad at defense. He just wants to play offense, specifically, score.
One of the few things Ham did right was near the end of the season he asked Hachimura to take on more of a rebounding role from the 3 position rather than hanging around the perimeter as much.
The result?
Rui averaged 17/7 across the last 13 games of the season on 56% from the field and 44% from three. That's why his drop off once the Playoffs started felt so severe.
Ham tried ruining Rui, to be honest.
I agree, I think Rui prevailed during the end of the season, but Ham was playing hot potato with his minutes and starting position.
He didn't capitalize on the momentum of Rui's playoffs performance. Instead, he acted like it didn't exist.
Rui still needs to work on his rebounding. He is 6'9 and I believe weighs 240LBS and can't rebound.
That is terrible, and bad at defense. He just wants to play offense, specifically, score.
One of the few things Ham did right was near the end of the season he asked Hachimura to take on more of a rebounding role from the 3 position rather than hanging around the perimeter as much.
The result?
Rui averaged 17/7 across the last 13 games of the season on 56% from the field and 44% from three. That's why his drop off once the Playoffs started felt so severe.
Ham tried ruining Rui, to be honest.
I agree, I think Rui prevailed during the end of the season, but Ham was playing hot potato with his minutes and starting position.
He didn't capitalize on the momentum of Rui's playoffs performance. Instead, he acted like it didn't exist.
Can’t let Rui interfere with super star Cam Reddish’s minutes.
Rui still needs to work on his rebounding. He is 6'9 and I believe weighs 240LBS and can't rebound.
That is terrible, and bad at defense. He just wants to play offense, specifically, score.
One of the few things Ham did right was near the end of the season he asked Hachimura to take on more of a rebounding role from the 3 position rather than hanging around the perimeter as much.
The result?
Rui averaged 17/7 across the last 13 games of the season on 56% from the field and 44% from three. That's why his drop off once the Playoffs started felt so severe.
Ham tried ruining Rui, to be honest.
I agree, I think Rui prevailed during the end of the season, but Ham was playing hot potato with his minutes and starting position.
He didn't capitalize on the momentum of Rui's playoffs performance. Instead, he acted like it didn't exist.
Ham screwed over a lot of players due to his favoritisms. DLO, Ham, Reaves, Wood, Dinwiddie.
Heck Reddish's season was ruined due to Ham's overreliance on him. And Taurean Prince NOT coming off the bench got him a lot of hatred and put him in a no-win situation because Ham had convinced himself he was a starter because he liked riding around in his expensive car. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Just look at Rui in the 2023 playoffs. The potential is there. Just need an intelligent HC to unlock it. _________________ I'm willing to eat my own poop and post on youtube for another Laker championship under Pelinka.
Lakers need a visionary GM because vision is scary.
Dafuq is this, a tear? What’s the recovery time? sigh
Japan national team suffered a major blow ahead of a crucial game against Brazil, as the team’s star, Rui Hachimura, left the camp. According to the statement by the Japan Basketball Federation, Hachimura felt discomfort in his left calf after the game against France. The MRI tests confirmed that Hachimura has a left calf injury (gastrocnemius muscle). – via BasketNews _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
I guess he needed best possible treatment for the calf, so he left and went to get it, instead of hanging around in a dead rubber 3rd game he won't play in. Japan is already 0-2 and eliminated I think.
Doesn't sound something that will keep him out until season's start.
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
To me, there is no clear cut third option (scoring wise) between Austin/DLO/Rui. On any given night/game any player can give you those 20 points (or even more, give or take).
What I've found is the issue with the AD/Bron/Rui/Austin/DLO lineup.
1) Defensively, it's not potent. Rui is not naturally a good wing/perimeter defender. Same for Austin. There's definitely not anyone you can put on an opposing team's attacking PG defensively.
2) May be a case at times of 1-2 guys getting lost without the ball. It's often the case when you have so many good scorers all of whom need the ball. Bron/AD/Austin/DLO all need the ball to be effective. Rui is also most effective when he can get some post ups and mid-range plays for him. Perhaps a better balanced lineup would be an elite defensive perimeter player + 4 out of AD/Bron/Rui/DLO with Austin playing the 6th man role.
*sigh* I wish the Olympics would just stop using NBA pro's. Just like soccer, they already have World Cup and Euro. They spit on Olympic gold medals. They don't send soccer pros to the Olympics. _________________ I'm willing to eat my own poop and post on youtube for another Laker championship under Pelinka.
Lakers need a visionary GM because vision is scary.
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
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I just looked up Rui injury history yesterday and he has previous calf injuries... maybe a trainer can see if he is using too much calf due to pain or poor mechanics somewhere else?
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
I heard some say that the injury Rui suffered during the France match up was considered a minor calf strain
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
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blackmamba08 wrote:
lakurluv wrote:
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
China??? Are you serious?
lol the Olympics are in London this year. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard Rui got injured for China during the Olympics...
Just the luck of the Lakers if it's anything serious, and we didn't do anything during free agency! SMH
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
To me, there is no clear cut third option (scoring wise) between Austin/DLO/Rui. On any given night/game any player can give you those 20 points (or even more, give or take).
What I've found is the issue with the AD/Bron/Rui/Austin/DLO lineup.
1) Defensively, it's not potent. Rui is not naturally a good wing/perimeter defender. Same for Austin. There's definitely not anyone you can put on an opposing team's attacking PG defensively.
2) May be a case at times of 1-2 guys getting lost without the ball. It's often the case when you have so many good scorers all of whom need the ball. Bron/AD/Austin/DLO all need the ball to be effective. Rui is also most effective when he can get some post ups and mid-range plays for him. Perhaps a better balanced lineup would be an elite defensive perimeter player + 4 out of AD/Bron/Rui/DLO with Austin playing the 6th man role.
Hopefully one key factor of the J.J. tenure is his offensive and defensive schemes, along with having few injuries during the course of this season.
We have Rui be effective then disappear. Is it because Rui was afraid of The Moment, lack of confidence in Ham's schemes and/or AD/LBJ's lack of trust in Rui coming through.
IMHO
Having Christie in key roles, as oppose to Prince, is an instant upgrade of energy and production.
With Vando (along with Vincent and CWood) being injured, highlighted Prince's deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
With DLo's many defensive deficiencies/inabilities, if he is not hitting shots - why is he on the court. Maybe an ideal role would be to have him in a "Vinnie Johnson" role that he had with the Pistons where his main priority is to shoot without any major pressure of defending. Given that he would be playing against the opposing team's bench/2nd team players, one would assume that he would thrive
With Vincent injured, Ham was forced to play DLo - even when he was producing defensively.
If the ball is popping, opportunities far numerous players to be a viable third option depending on the matchups. Hence CWood to AR to DLo to Christie to Rui to their #1 draft choice will have outstanding performances at selected games.
AD & LBJ are always a mismatch in favor for the Lakers hence all the above-listed players should have clean open airspace to wide open shots. If we have multiple players that can go off with the proper matchup, we should be ok - like the Nuggets (Jokic/Murray) and others
His length/size, athleticism and potential to be a 2-way player does give me hope. I am with you on that. I don't think he's best served as a 3/4 like Prince. He's more a 2 sometimes 3, IMO. For Prince, I believe Knecht has the best shot at getting some of those minutes. Rui will likely get more PT now with Prince (Ham's boy followed him to MIL) gone.
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
To me, there is no clear cut third option (scoring wise) between Austin/DLO/Rui. On any given night/game any player can give you those 20 points (or even more, give or take).
What I've found is the issue with the AD/Bron/Rui/Austin/DLO lineup.
1) Defensively, it's not potent. Rui is not naturally a good wing/perimeter defender. Same for Austin. There's definitely not anyone you can put on an opposing team's attacking PG defensively.
2) May be a case at times of 1-2 guys getting lost without the ball. It's often the case when you have so many good scorers all of whom need the ball. Bron/AD/Austin/DLO all need the ball to be effective. Rui is also most effective when he can get some post ups and mid-range plays for him. Perhaps a better balanced lineup would be an elite defensive perimeter player + 4 out of AD/Bron/Rui/DLO with Austin playing the 6th man role.
Hopefully one key factor of the J.J. tenure is his offensive and defensive schemes, along with having few injuries during the course of this season.
We have Rui be effective then disappear. Is it because Rui was afraid of The Moment, lack of confidence in Ham's schemes and/or AD/LBJ's lack of trust in Rui coming through.
IMHO
Having Christie in key roles, as oppose to Prince, is an instant upgrade of energy and production.
With Vando (along with Vincent and CWood) being injured, highlighted Prince's deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
With DLo's many defensive deficiencies/inabilities, if he is not hitting shots - why is he on the court. Maybe an ideal role would be to have him in a "Vinnie Johnson" role that he had with the Pistons where his main priority is to shoot without any major pressure of defending. Given that he would be playing against the opposing team's bench/2nd team players, one would assume that he would thrive
With Vincent injured, Ham was forced to play DLo - even when he was producing defensively.
If the ball is popping, opportunities far numerous players to be a viable third option depending on the matchups. Hence CWood to AR to DLo to Christie to Rui to their #1 draft choice will have outstanding performances at selected games.
AD & LBJ are always a mismatch in favor for the Lakers hence all the above-listed players should have clean open airspace to wide open shots. If we have multiple players that can go off with the proper matchup, we should be ok - like the Nuggets (Jokic/Murray) and others
I wouldn't blame that on Ham. That is the kind of player Rui is.
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
To me, there is no clear cut third option (scoring wise) between Austin/DLO/Rui. On any given night/game any player can give you those 20 points (or even more, give or take).
What I've found is the issue with the AD/Bron/Rui/Austin/DLO lineup.
1) Defensively, it's not potent. Rui is not naturally a good wing/perimeter defender. Same for Austin. There's definitely not anyone you can put on an opposing team's attacking PG defensively.
2) May be a case at times of 1-2 guys getting lost without the ball. It's often the case when you have so many good scorers all of whom need the ball. Bron/AD/Austin/DLO all need the ball to be effective. Rui is also most effective when he can get some post ups and mid-range plays for him. Perhaps a better balanced lineup would be an elite defensive perimeter player + 4 out of AD/Bron/Rui/DLO with Austin playing the 6th man role.
Hopefully one key factor of the J.J. tenure is his offensive and defensive schemes, along with having few injuries during the course of this season.
We have Rui be effective then disappear. Is it because Rui was afraid of The Moment, lack of confidence in Ham's schemes and/or AD/LBJ's lack of trust in Rui coming through.
IMHO
Having Christie in key roles, as oppose to Prince, is an instant upgrade of energy and production.
With Vando (along with Vincent and CWood) being injured, highlighted Prince's deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
With DLo's many defensive deficiencies/inabilities, if he is not hitting shots - why is he on the court. Maybe an ideal role would be to have him in a "Vinnie Johnson" role that he had with the Pistons where his main priority is to shoot without any major pressure of defending. Given that he would be playing against the opposing team's bench/2nd team players, one would assume that he would thrive
With Vincent injured, Ham was forced to play DLo - even when he was producing defensively.
If the ball is popping, opportunities far numerous players to be a viable third option depending on the matchups. Hence CWood to AR to DLo to Christie to Rui to their #1 draft choice will have outstanding performances at selected games.
AD & LBJ are always a mismatch in favor for the Lakers hence all the above-listed players should have clean open airspace to wide open shots. If we have multiple players that can go off with the proper matchup, we should be ok - like the Nuggets (Jokic/Murray) and others
I wouldn't blame that on Ham. That is the kind of player Rui is.
There is never just one factor
Last season, Rui was injured in thebeginning of the season, along with other times, that presented issues
Ham, along with his inexperienced staff, had penalized the roster by his ill-matched and inconsistent rotations
One would hope that Rui's uncertainity was a strategic factor on why he was too passive/not aggressive hence not trusted in critical situations (i.e. playoffs) by LBJ & AD.
Hopefully Rui's Olympic performance have proven to him and others that he can be a viable offensive option while not preventing him to continue to work on his game before training camp starts.
For those that mistakenly believe that Grant would be a better option (considering what it would take to get him in a trade, Grant's salary and his stats), why would the Lakers want Grant's bad contract - especially at the end of his contract
I'd like to see Rui as the 3rd or at worst 4th option in the starting lineup. Think the best way to do that is to bring Austin off the bench for Max. Rui is more athletic and explosive than both D'lo/Austin and he really feasts on the openings that Bron and AD create. He could do damage if he was getting closer to 15 shots but he definitely needs to improve his defense and glass work.
I disagree. I think he excelled last season as a fifth option feasting off of the shots Bron, AD, DLO, and even AR generated. His role was very streamlined: attack closeouts, shoot spot up threes, cut to the basket, and shoot the occasional midrange jumper. Increasing his volume means less spot ups/cuts and more self creation via postups, drives, and mid range pull-ups. I think Austin and DLO can generate more efficient offense.
To me, there is no clear cut third option (scoring wise) between Austin/DLO/Rui. On any given night/game any player can give you those 20 points (or even more, give or take).
What I've found is the issue with the AD/Bron/Rui/Austin/DLO lineup.
1) Defensively, it's not potent. Rui is not naturally a good wing/perimeter defender. Same for Austin. There's definitely not anyone you can put on an opposing team's attacking PG defensively.
2) May be a case at times of 1-2 guys getting lost without the ball. It's often the case when you have so many good scorers all of whom need the ball. Bron/AD/Austin/DLO all need the ball to be effective. Rui is also most effective when he can get some post ups and mid-range plays for him. Perhaps a better balanced lineup would be an elite defensive perimeter player + 4 out of AD/Bron/Rui/DLO with Austin playing the 6th man role.
Hopefully one key factor of the J.J. tenure is his offensive and defensive schemes, along with having few injuries during the course of this season.
We have Rui be effective then disappear. Is it because Rui was afraid of The Moment, lack of confidence in Ham's schemes and/or AD/LBJ's lack of trust in Rui coming through.
IMHO
Having Christie in key roles, as oppose to Prince, is an instant upgrade of energy and production.
With Vando (along with Vincent and CWood) being injured, highlighted Prince's deficiencies on both sides of the ball.
With DLo's many defensive deficiencies/inabilities, if he is not hitting shots - why is he on the court. Maybe an ideal role would be to have him in a "Vinnie Johnson" role that he had with the Pistons where his main priority is to shoot without any major pressure of defending. Given that he would be playing against the opposing team's bench/2nd team players, one would assume that he would thrive
With Vincent injured, Ham was forced to play DLo - even when he was producing defensively.
If the ball is popping, opportunities far numerous players to be a viable third option depending on the matchups. Hence CWood to AR to DLo to Christie to Rui to their #1 draft choice will have outstanding performances at selected games.
AD & LBJ are always a mismatch in favor for the Lakers hence all the above-listed players should have clean open airspace to wide open shots. If we have multiple players that can go off with the proper matchup, we should be ok - like the Nuggets (Jokic/Murray) and others
I wouldn't blame that on Ham. That is the kind of player Rui is.
There is never just one factor
Last season, Rui was injured in thebeginning of the season, along with other times, that presented issues
Ham, along with his inexperienced staff, had penalized the roster by his ill-matched and inconsistent rotations
One would hope that Rui's uncertainity was a strategic factor on why he was too passive/not aggressive hence not trusted in critical situations (i.e. playoffs) by LBJ & AD.
Hopefully Rui's Olympic performance have proven to him and others that he can be a viable offensive option while not preventing him to continue to work on his game before training camp starts.
For those that mistakenly believe that Grant would be a better option (considering what it would take to get him in a trade, Grant's salary and his stats), why would the Lakers want Grant's bad contract - especially at the end of his contract
Rui is better for the lakers than Grant, but Rui is an up and down player who seems to lack motivation. Long before he was a Laker.
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