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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:23 pm    Post subject:

I think even at his best he projects to be a bench player/fringe starter. Basically a slightly better version of Gabe. Just lacks the athleticism to really attack the basket or finish thru contact. I'm not sure he was ever expected to be better than Jaquez or Whitmore. I was one of the people preaching patience when the pick was made but he was so terrible I'm not really invested anymore. He mostly just lacks confidence which should come with time. Think he'll develop into a useful player eventually.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:38 pm    Post subject:

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I think even at his best he projects to be a bench player/fringe starter. Basically a slightly better version of Gabe. Just lacks the athleticism to really attack the basket or finish thru contact. I'm not sure he was ever expected to be better than Jaquez or Whitmore. I was one of the people preaching patience when the pick was made but he was so terrible I'm not really invested anymore. He mostly just lacks confidence which should come with time. Think he'll develop into a useful player eventually.


I see his ceiling being either another Ish Smith or a JJ Barea perhaps not as good as JJ Brea but someone who can eventually become 1 of those types that gives teams some headache because of his speed
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:21 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know PNP...he just looked like a dude before his injury. He didn't flash anything NBA level...not a single thing. That was and is very concerning.

Check out the highlights I posted. He shot 43% from 3 in the G-League and they weren't all easy shots. I mean the competition is terrible and obviously JHS is not going to be a 43% shooter taking step back 3s in the NBA. But if his jumper can translate into the NBA (no guarantees -- Anthony Brown shot 40% in the G-League) suddenly he's looking like a different caliber of prospect.

Big body PG, pretty good at defense, strong and will be a good bully ball player, makes pretty good PnR reads and in general looks to be a solid floor general.

The issue were general scoring efficiency (can't shoot, can't get to the rim) and a solid jumper can fix that and even open up his finishing game.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:55 am    Post subject:

he had a pretty good mid range game at IU. I think he is able to recapture that once he gets comfortable at the NBA level. Im much higher on him than others here but understand he is up against tough odds
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:09 pm    Post subject:

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manlisten wrote:
I think even at his best he projects to be a bench player/fringe starter. Basically a slightly better version of Gabe. Just lacks the athleticism to really attack the basket or finish thru contact. I'm not sure he was ever expected to be better than Jaquez or Whitmore. I was one of the people preaching patience when the pick was made but he was so terrible I'm not really invested anymore. He mostly just lacks confidence which should come with time. Think he'll develop into a useful player eventually.


I see his ceiling being either another Ish Smith or a JJ Barea perhaps not as good as JJ Brea but someone who can eventually become 1 of those types that gives teams some headache because of his speed


Where do you all get these comparisons from? lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:24 pm    Post subject:

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I think even at his best he projects to be a bench player/fringe starter. Basically a slightly better version of Gabe. Just lacks the athleticism to really attack the basket or finish thru contact. I'm not sure he was ever expected to be better than Jaquez or Whitmore. I was one of the people preaching patience when the pick was made but he was so terrible I'm not really invested anymore. He mostly just lacks confidence which should come with time. Think he'll develop into a useful player eventually.


I see his ceiling being either another Ish Smith or a JJ Barea perhaps not as good as JJ Brea but someone who can eventually become 1 of those types that gives teams some headache because of his speed


Where do you all get these comparisons from? lol

he's thinking about who he'd trade JHS for 1:1 if he had a time machine
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:01 am    Post subject:

The thing that will hurt JHS is we also drafted Bronny as a project. They both project to play the exact same role. Unlike Bronny though, JHS has size for the position and can handle the ball more comfortably. I can see him carve out a role for himself. Now you add Gabe. That's 3 guards all of whom do roughly the same thing (in a better case scenario that Bronny/JHS develop into rotational players).

I guess in a way that's why you saw Pelinka want to move DLO for Klay. Would shore up the 2 position with Klay/Austin/Christie. 1 position would be Gabe/JHS/Bronny.

Likely we see DLO being shopped all summer, I just don't think there's enough evidence yet to show that a) Gabe can start b) JHS is ready for a backup role and c) Bronny is ready to be a third stringer who plays rotational minutes when injuries happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:39 am    Post subject:

tox wrote:
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I don't know PNP...he just looked like a dude before his injury. He didn't flash anything NBA level...not a single thing. That was and is very concerning.

Check out the highlights I posted. He shot 43% from 3 in the G-League and they weren't all easy shots. I mean the competition is terrible and obviously JHS is not going to be a 43% shooter taking step back 3s in the NBA. But if his jumper can translate into the NBA (no guarantees -- Anthony Brown shot 40% in the G-League) suddenly he's looking like a different caliber of prospect.

Big body PG, pretty good at defense, strong and will be a good bully ball player, makes pretty good PnR reads and in general looks to be a solid floor general.

The issue were general scoring efficiency (can't shoot, can't get to the rim) and a solid jumper can fix that and even open up his finishing game.


Let me throw a different angle at the board. Looking at JHS, I see a good ball handler, strong, good passer, good shooter. I also see no athletic burst, nothing above the rim, and a bit of difficulty handling quicker guards.

My thought is that we stop casting him exclusively as a big point guard. If he can develop his 3pt shot on a level Tox indicated and handle the ball as he does, then maybe some experimentation at the 2 & 3 could yield some positive results.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:28 pm    Post subject:

Just sucks that the 3 picks following JHS were all legit better players.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:49 pm    Post subject:

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Just sucks that the 3 picks following JHS were all legit better players.



All 3 very good. I think passing on Cam may not have been avoided but
Jaime was the wing we should have picked. Brandin is a nice player as well but we have AR, we’re good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:57 pm    Post subject:

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The thing that will hurt JHS is we also drafted Bronny as a project..


JHS is also a project, and Bronny has to actually become a better player than him first.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:09 am    Post subject:



Would be huge for us if he can step into a role this season. It makes Gabe expendable so we can go get a big.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:52 am    Post subject:

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https://youtu.be/_Iay3UU2nXg?si=QQREiZjCkJPID7_F

Would be huge for us if he can step into a role this season. It makes Gabe expendable so we can go get a big.


Seems like he step into his threes with right foot lead (on aright handed shot), doesn’t feel right
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:44 am    Post subject:

Yeah, he hops from foot on the sideline out of bounds and shoots with his right foot pushed forward. Seems like a development coach should be helping him clean that up.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:47 pm    Post subject:

Have you guys shot a basketball before?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:37 pm    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
Have you guys shot a basketball before?


Lol i'm curious to what made you ask this?
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Have you guys shot a basketball before?


Lol i'm curious to what made you ask this?


If you're right handed, your right leg is supposed to be slightly forward when shooting.
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manlisten wrote:
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Have you guys shot a basketball before?


Lol i'm curious to what made you ask this?


If you're right handed, your right leg is supposed to be slightly forward when shooting.


Bruh, u step thru with your left foot lead then right foot, it’s natural movement for right handed shots
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:20 pm    Post subject:

I can see him getting minutes this season. He has the size to be good defensively and if his shot is falling watch out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:05 pm    Post subject:

If he gives us minutes I'm counting that as a minor miracle
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:28 pm    Post subject:

I think fans were too quick to label him a busy. He hardly played any minutes and the ones he did play were garbage. When he got minutes during G league he was great. He got hurt his rookie year….

I remember at the beginning of the season D ham said JHS was the guy that stood out early in training camp. I don’t think that was a fluke. I think he’s better than fans are giving are making him out to be. Lakers don’t whiff too often on frp. I think he will be a good nba player. Hopefully sooner than later.


If he can play defense and hit 3’s he will make Vincent expendable.
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I think fans were too quick to label him a busy. He hardly played any minutes and the ones he did play were garbage. When he got minutes during G league he was great. He got hurt his rookie year….

I remember at the beginning of the season D ham said JHS was the guy that stood out early in training camp. I don’t think that was a fluke. I think he’s better than fans are giving are making him out to be. Lakers don’t whiff too often on frp. I think he will be a good nba player. Hopefully sooner than later.


If he can play defense and hit 3’s he will make Vincent expendable.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:07 am    Post subject:

Hopefully he has a good season but players with no experience don't make vets expendable. Shouldn't be expecting or counting on him to give you quality playoff minutes, even if he's improved during the regular season.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:31 pm    Post subject:

I didn’t like the draft choice, but people on LG seem to want to be the first to identify someone as a bust. A few minutes of NBA action by a rookie doesn’t give definitive answers. Evidence of his improvement was seen in the G League, but most tried to dismiss it because the competition wasn’t NBA players. Now when he’s shooting without competition, people suddenly want to acknowledge that he can shoot. He’s going to show that this year, but we’ll see what else he can do. The problem is he’s been out due to injury so he didn’t get a full summer’s work in.
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