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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:34 pm    Post subject:

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Nice with against team USA. I wanted WNBA to beat team USA so bad so it was good to see it happen. CC and Angel had nice chemistry as teammates. But the highlight of the night was seeing Arike go off on all those 3s.

The way Angel Reece plays reminds me of prime Rodman.


Me too, WNBA got it. CC Angel would be pretty ideal combo (just saying, speculating baselessly for the future, would definitely finish better than Boston, though less of a jumper). Angel is a pretty great WNBA player too.
Caitlin is having a fantastic rookie season, but it still surprises me that she isn't hitting open shots - even in the WNBA, even as a rookie learning, even though she's in volume shooting phase - a little better than she is so far, I mean open (she does get covered well) shots. 40% overall, 33% from three? But passing there, and I discount turnovers as an issue for a few reasons.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:37 pm    Post subject:

Yesterday was the first time I ever focused on Reese. She is big time good for sure, and yes, quite the pogo stick out there.

As is obvious, I'm a huge fan of Caitlin, but I see the two as neck and neck for the rook award.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:04 pm    Post subject:

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Yesterday was the first time I ever focused on Reese. She is big time good for sure, and yes, quite the pogo stick out there.

As is obvious, I'm a huge fan of Caitlin, but I see the two as neck and neck for the rook award.


Yeah she is good. Both make the wnba more fun to watch. I see myself watching Chicago Sky highlights often. Sometimes even watching some of the games even though it's not against Caitlin.

I know I started watching wnba because of CC but also becoming a fan of Reese. Throw in Cameron Brinks in there as well because she fantastic also.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:47 pm    Post subject:

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Yesterday was the first time I ever focused on Reese. She is big time good for sure, and yes, quite the pogo stick out there.

As is obvious, I'm a huge fan of Caitlin, but I see the two as neck and neck for the rook award.


Yeah she is good. Both make the wnba more fun to watch. I see myself watching Chicago Sky highlights often. Sometimes even watching some of the games even though it's not against Caitlin.

I know I started watching wnba because of CC but also becoming a fan of Reese. Throw in Cameron Brinks in there as well because she fantastic also.

There are two players coming next year, one of which I am more familiar with (still not very). Paige Bueckers really impresses me, just seems like a natural feel, skills, shots, defense 2-way. Another player Juju from USC people are saying is also really something maybe goes #1 in the draft. I haven't seen her much except for a bad last game.

Reese is a rebounding machine, great positioning. Honestly, as someone who is new to WNBA, some players seem so slow to move, and also slow to react. When I see Caitlin Clark move and pass or Reese position herself for rebounds vs other team's bigs, it's like two different leagues' players still to me. Same for Arike MVP player (check out WNBA allstar game highlights if you haven't...steph curry-like (or what I think will be Caitlin Clark like in upcoming years).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:48 pm    Post subject:

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Yesterday was the first time I ever focused on Reese. She is big time good for sure, and yes, quite the pogo stick out there.

As is obvious, I'm a huge fan of Caitlin, but I see the two as neck and neck for the rook award.


Yeah she is good. Both make the wnba more fun to watch. I see myself watching Chicago Sky highlights often. Sometimes even watching some of the games even though it's not against Caitlin.

I know I started watching wnba because of CC but also becoming a fan of Reese. Throw in Cameron Brinks in there as well because she fantastic also.

Brinks is injured for season but even before she needs a lot of offensive work I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:34 am    Post subject:

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Nice with against team USA. I wanted WNBA to beat team USA so bad so it was good to see it happen. CC and Angel had nice chemistry as teammates. But the highlight of the night was seeing Arike go off on all those 3s.

The way Angel Reece plays reminds me of prime Rodman.


With a shot that's just as ugly. Actually Rodman's shot looks slightly better than Reece's. She can definitely rebound but that shot is in Shawn Marion/Joakim Noah/Lonzo Ball category.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:35 pm    Post subject:

WNBA All-Star Game shatters previous ratings mark, draws 3.44 million viewers

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. . . crushing the previous audience record set in 2003, when 1.441 million viewers tuned into ABC for a Saturday afternoon tilt at Madison Square Garden. That game featured an abundance of all-time greats, including Lisa Leslie, Sue Bird, Dawn Staley, Sheryl Swoopes, Cynthia Cooper, Tamika Catchings, Tina Thompson, Lauren Jackson, Teresa Weatherspoon, Chamique Holdsclaw, Katie Smith, Yolanda Griffith, Swin Cash and Nykesha Sales, among others.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:12 pm    Post subject:

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I actually saw a video of Clark visiting with Kobe's fam courtside and was thinking about posting it.

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To add to this, CC was wearing the same Kobe 6 shoes as Capri so they posed together showing 'em off.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:40 am    Post subject:

I watched some Caitlin Clark highlights finally, holy (bleep) is she fun to watch.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:51 am    Post subject:

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I actually saw a video of Clark visiting with Kobe's fam courtside and was thinking about posting it.

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To add to this, CC was wearing the same Kobe 6 shoes as Capri so they posed together showing 'em off.


If Kobe was still with us he would be one of her biggest fans... she has IT "I AM HER!!" complete game mentally and physically
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:00 am    Post subject:

I really dislike Angel Reese btw. Stat padding to get a double double in garbage time? Ugh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:05 am    Post subject:

shes amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:49 pm    Post subject:

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I really dislike Angel Reese btw. Stat padding to get a double double in garbage time? Ugh


Angel Reese is a complete player. She gets a lot of heat for doing the same thing Caitlin Clark did, point to a ring finger. LINK LINK In my and many sports analysts' minds, she's one of the best player in the WNBA. A'ja Wilson is by far the best player in the league but she doesn't get Caitlin ink. Don't misunderstand me. Caitlin has done more than any player in WNBA history but she's not the best player in the league. LINK
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:13 pm    Post subject:

I only have issues with her because I dislike stat padders. I think it's disgraceful to be out there down 20 against your rival against bench players to continue your double double streak
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:24 pm    Post subject:

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I only have issues with her because I dislike stat padders. I think it's disgraceful to be out there down 20 against your rival against bench players to continue your double double streak


A friend of mine had a great comment about the Clark/Reese divide (while expressing admiration for both of their talents).

Reese decided to go with the black hat and Clark dons the white one. While that doesn’t necessarily reveal who they truly are, it sums up their different public personas.

The big difference to me that exemplifies that is the whole Cena “You can’t see me” gesture they both did. Clark just did it as a general thing to the crowd as a whole, Reese turned into a taunt and did it directly to an individual opponent. It sums up the difference between the two regarding how they conduct themselves on the court.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:09 pm    Post subject:

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I only have issues with her because I dislike stat padders. I think it's disgraceful to be out there down 20 against your rival against bench players to continue your double double streak


A friend of mine had a great comment about the Clark/Reese divide (while expressing admiration for both of their talents).

Reese decided to go with the black hat and Clark dons the white one. While that doesn’t necessarily reveal who they truly are, it sums up their different public personas.

The big difference to me that exemplifies that is the whole Cena “You can’t see me” gesture they both did. Clark just did it as a general thing to the crowd as a whole, Reese turned into a taunt and did it directly to an individual opponent. It sums up the difference between the two regarding how they conduct themselves on the court.


Being one who will change course if given a reason, I do such in regards to the Cena gesture. Angel was taunting, Caitlin was imitating. Some WNBA players are envious of Caitlin. They should be thankful. Caitlin has caused attendance figures to jump 87%. She did a Bird, Magic alone.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:10 pm    Post subject:

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I really dislike Angel Reese btw. Stat padding to get a double double in garbage time? Ugh


Angel Reese is a complete player. She gets a lot of heat for doing the same thing Caitlin Clark did, point to a ring finger. LINK LINK In my and many sports analysts' minds, she's one of the best player in the WNBA. A'ja Wilson is by far the best player in the league but she doesn't get Caitlin ink. Don't misunderstand me. Caitlin has done more than any player in WNBA history but she's not the best player in the league. LINK


I don't think complete players are that horrible with putting the ball in the hoop. Her eFG% is 38.6.
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I really dislike Angel Reese btw. Stat padding to get a double double in garbage time? Ugh


Angel Reese is a complete player. She gets a lot of heat for doing the same thing Caitlin Clark did, point to a ring finger. LINK LINK In my and many sports analysts' minds, she's one of the best player in the WNBA. A'ja Wilson is by far the best player in the league but she doesn't get Caitlin ink. Don't misunderstand me. Caitlin has done more than any player in WNBA history but she's not the best player in the league. LINK


I don't think complete players are that horrible with putting the ball in the hoop. Her eFG% is 38.6.

I won't say horrible 38.6 is not that bad but it's not good. It's a tweener. She needs to improve her shooting.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:51 pm    Post subject:

How good is Caitlin Clark?

Most career games with 20 PTS & 10 AST:

10 — Courtney Vandersloot, in 422 games
9 — Diana Taurasi, in 559 games
7 — Caitlin Clark ... in 34
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:55 pm    Post subject:

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How good is Caitlin Clark?

Most career games with 20 PTS & 10 AST:

10 — Courtney Vandersloot, in 422 games
9 — Diana Taurasi, in 559 games
7 — Caitlin Clark ... in 34


Wasn’t good enough for the Olympics tho
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:13 pm    Post subject:

CC is so impressive. Not only are her 3 pointers fun to watch but so are her assists. Currently they are 2 games over 500 and in 6th place. I know there's an argument about who should be the ROTY but I think Caitlin is running away with it. I think she is in the league MVP conversation.

I love watching Reece too because of her hustle. I don't believe that Reece misses on purpose so she can get her own rebounds to get her numbers up but I do wonder if she would be averaging double digit rebounds if she was a better shooter under the basket.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:44 am    Post subject:

A'ja Wilson's advanced stats are comical. People like her are well within their rights to be annoyed at how much hype CC gets relative to someone like Wilson.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:55 am    Post subject:

I don't know where to begin. First, I'm annoyed about the division regarding Caitlin. She has her haters, which I don't like, but then her fans can be haters as well--just ask Reese. I so hate social media, at least that not moderated well. (Allow me a moment to get on my high horse here and comment on Musk and others who feel that freedom at social media sites is more important than civility. With Caitlin, and just about everywhere, if you can hide, you can be bold and ridiculous, and our loss of civility is a major problem.)

As for Caitlin, I just can't get enough of her. Rarely anymore can I sit and watch a whole game of anything, but I stay glued to my TV when the Fever play, and I've seen many of her games--thank you UTube TV. I watch these games with the enthusiasm I once had for the Lakers. She plays the game right, or at least right from my perspective. Like Magic and LeBron, she makes her teammates better and they in return make her better. When there is a rebound or a turnover, whoever gets the ball first, immediately looks for Kaitlin who will race down the court with the ball, like it's a timed drill, keeping pace with the other team retreating without it, with her head held high, radar scanning, eyes focused on not just where her teammates are, but where they will be. She might make one of her incredible passes or if the sag, which is rare, she'll step back and take a three. She's just about as unguardable as there ever was.

The Fever were 13-27 last year (just about the same team less Caitlin) and are 18-16 right now. That is a 16 game swing. That is impressive. This, along with everything else, is why she should be considered for the MVP (we're well past any rookie of the year argument). I am one of those who believes MVP awards should be taken literally, that the award goes to that player that is most valuable to their team, that makes their team that much better, that without, the team would suffer greatly. Yes, Aja Wilson is having a fantastic year with historic stats, but is she a 16 game swinger? Also, by Basketball Reference On/Off (which is just a box statistical facsimile of eight stat categories) Wilson is -5.1 while Caitlin is +5.7. Hmmm. Another factor, that may or may not have merit for the MVP, but is a valuable asset nonetheless, is that Caitlin is CLEARLY MVP of the league when you factor value, in a monetary sense, for the league, as attendance (Indiana 16,956 '24; 4,066 '23) and ratings have so increased. I'll add, that while I think Caitlin makes a good choice for being considered MVP, I definitely believe she is the most valuable guard and deserves first team honors.
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