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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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ksmgf wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | Shohei 47/47...let's GO! |
Yeah that was nice. 50 50 here we come. |
Has anyone gotten 60-40 before? If yes, what is more impressive, 50/50 or 60/40? |
60/40 is more impressive but it’s not as historical as 50-50. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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This might be the last 50/50 attempt for awhile since Shohei will pitch next year and hopefully beyond. Can't imagine even he would have enough juice to hurl Cy Young caliber stuff while mashing 50 dongs and swiping 50 bases. |
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MookieBetts50 wrote: | This might be the last 50/50 attempt for awhile since Shohei will pitch next year and hopefully beyond. Can't imagine even he would have enough juice to hurl Cy Young caliber stuff while mashing 50 dongs and swiping 50 bases. |
I think he doesnt run on the days he pitches |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | MookieBetts50 wrote: | This might be the last 50/50 attempt for awhile since Shohei will pitch next year and hopefully beyond. Can't imagine even he would have enough juice to hurl Cy Young caliber stuff while mashing 50 dongs and swiping 50 bases. |
I think he doesnt run on the days he pitches |
I'll settle for a 50 HR/no hitter. lol That will never be done for sure. Only Ohtani has the talent to do it. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Random Ohtani stats:
Quote: | Sarah Langs
@SlangsOnSports
Shohei Ohtani has 12 games this season with a HR & SB
only player with more such games in a season since 1900:
1986 Rickey Henderson: 13
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2023 Ronald Acuña Jr. 12
1973 Bobby Bonds: 12 |
Quote: | Ohtani is destined to win the MVP this season and when he does, he'll be only the second player to win the MVP Award in both leagues (Frank Robinson). |
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Plaschke with a crazy idea: Ohtani pitching in the playoffs as a reliever
Quote: | Plaschke: Shohei Ohtani pitching out of bullpen in playoffs? Why not?
When the Dodgers last won the World Series in 2020, the championship was saved with the most unusual of scenarios.
The final seven outs of the deciding Game 6 victory against the Tampa Bay Rays were perfectly navigated by a pitcher who had worked out of the bullpen just once that season.
Julio Urías was not a reliever, but the Dodgers were nimble and smart and out of this gutsy decision, a title was forged.
Fast-forward to this October, when, if the Dodgers find themselves in a similar position — and they probably will — they should have the courage to make a similar maneuver.
This season’s savior pitcher?
Shohei Ohtani.
This could happen. This should happen. This being Hollywood and this being Ohtani, how cool would it be if it really did happen?
The Dodgers have spent all summer saying Ohtani will not pitch this season while rehabbing from elbow surgery, but that rehab should soon end, just in time for his team to encounter an inning that requires three outs to win a series or a ring.
Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, ninth inning, they need somebody to mow down the Philadelphia Phillies’ Kyle Schwarber, Trea Turner and Bryce Harper … why not Ohtani?
Game 7 of the World Series, ninth inning, they need someone to stare down the New York Yankees’ Juan Soto and Aaron Judge … why not Ohtani?
First, the medical report.
Quote: | By the time the postseason begins, Ohtani should be ready to pitch competitively. He already is throwing off a mound and is scheduled to face Dodgers hitters sometime during these final weeks of the season.
There’s not enough opportunity to build him up to be a starting pitcher, but, barring a major setback, physically he should enter October in a position to record the occasional three outs. |
While he hasn’t been a reliever since his early days in Japan, the highlight of his career came out of the bullpen, when he struck out Mike Trout to clinch the 2023 World Baseball Classic for Japan.
So if he physically can do it, and he’s already done it successfully, and, considering how badly he wants to win a championship, he surely is willing to do it ... so why not let him do it?
Wouldn’t you want to put your biggest moment in the hands of your best pitcher?
Would you really want to leave your $700-million investment on the bench to save him for the length of his 10-year contract if you have a chance to win now?
There are countless reasons not to pitch Ohtani in the postseason, but none are as important as the single reason why you should.
He can pitch the Dodgers to a parade.
And, goodness, after 36 years without a full-season title or the accompanying celebration, the most loyal fan base in baseball is deserving of a parade.
To not give the team and those fans and this city their best chance to win a title would be dereliction of duty. To not include Ohtani if the situation arises and he’s willing to take the ball would be simply wrong.
When pressed with the idea Wednesday, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts acknowledged he couldn’t totally kibosh it.
Quote: | “I wouldn’t say no way ... I’m not going to close the door 100%," he said.
However, he acknowledged that while it would be cool, it would be tough.
“If I was scripting a movie or writing a book, it would be a no-brainer that he comes out of rehabilitation and throws the last pitch,” Roberts said.
“The problem is, in reality, he hasn’t thrown a leverage pitch in over a year. If he were to come out and it does go awry, it’s not worth potential injury. You just cannot duplicate the stress of that one inning. I just don’t think it’s worth it.” |
Andrew Friedman, president of baseball operations, steered clear of giving an opinion on the idea, noting that it was still too soon to even ponder.
Quote: | “The subject is nowhere near front of mind for us,” he said. “He’s still going through his rehab progression.” |
The negatives are obvious.
Ohtani has nine more years left on a record contract whose value is based on his ability to both hit and pitch, and the Dodgers are queasy about risking an arm injury that could end his pitching career for the sake of three outs.
When Ohtani underwent his second elbow surgery last September, it was announced that he would not be ready to pitch until 2025, and the Dodgers are wary of suddenly changing that timetable, especially since it would annoy Ohtani’s overbearing agent, Nez Balelo.
Even though he would need only an inning to get warmed up, and would be on the mound for only three outs, the Dodgers are concerned that the sudden change in routine would affect his MVP-level hitting.
Quote: | “I would love to see what he did to Mike Trout to close out the Dodger World Series, but he had a ramp-up, building up to that moment,” Roberts said, referring to the WBC ending. |
Indeed, any Ohtani mound appearance would come out under the greatest of pressure with the least of preparation, thrusting him in a position to spectacularly fail.
But he has one thing going in his favor.
He’s Shohei Ohtani!
Truly, baseball crypts are filled with the dead arms of pitchers who were asked to compete in the postseason outside of their comfort zone.
But he has something they don’t.
He’s Shohei Ohtani!
Any argument against using their baseball unicorn in relief can be countered by those same three words, a phrase which this summer has come to symbolize magic and majesty and moonstruck possibility.
He’s Shohei Ohtani!
He can do anything. He can do this.
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Dodgers playoff rotation update:
Quote: | Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Tyler Glasnow & the Dodgers’ October rotation plan
https://www.truebluela.com/2024/9/12/24241955/yoshinobu-yamamoto-tyler-glasnow-dodgers-playoff-starting-pitchers
This year is more of the same, with the Dodgers’ two huge pitching additions during the offseason both sidelined for extended periods of time as the days on the schedule dwindle.
But Tuesday provided reasons for optimism, first with Tyler Glasnow throwing a bullpen session, then Yoshinobu Yamamoto returning from the injured list with eight strikeouts in four dominant innings against the Cubs.
Quote: | “I feel much better about the rotation than I did 24 hours ago,” manager Dave Roberts said Tuesday night.
“It’s starting to turn, in terms of getting back to the rotation that we envisioned.” |
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Yamamoto:
Quote: | Because Glasnow is still on the IL, Yamamoto was the key driver of hope on Tuesday, looking like he hadn’t lost a beat despite missing nearly three months with a right rotator cuff strain.
Quote: | “The fastball, the splitter, and curveball were all working,” said catcher Austin Barnes.
“He looked better than ever.” |
Quote: | “Today was more of a relief,” Yamamoto said through an interpreter.
“I was able to come back and do what I needed to do.” |
Yamamoto made only two rehab starts, and topped out at two innings, with his final Triple-A start cut short thanks to a 17-pitch walk that elongated his two frames. The four innings he threw on Tuesday against the Cubs were the upper limit of what was expected.
At least Yamamoto still has time for three more regular season starts to get ready for the postseason. Glasnow has no such luxury, but will be on a similar plan.
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Glasnow:
Quote: | Glasnow is going to pitch a simulated game on Friday at Truist Park in Atlanta, at least two innings and maybe three.
But after that he’s going right into the Dodgers for his next turn, presumably during one of the final two games in Miami next Wednesday or Thursday.
Quote: | “We’ve dealt with being shorthanded, but to get him in a major league game is a priority,” Roberts said.
“If he can manage two or three innings in the sim game, that will be sufficient.” |
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How many innings can Yamamoto and Glasnow pitch in the playoffs?
Quote: | But Glasnow and Yamamoto still need to build up their innings, too.
Quote: | “There’s a hope part of it, but there’s also a realistic part of it. I think we’re all comfortable in the sense that whatever the build-up is, it is what it is, and we’ve got to go from there,” Roberts said.
“I’d love to say they’re six [innings] and 90 [pitches] would be great. How realistic that is, time will tell. If it’s four and 60, five and 75, whatever it is, we’re going to bet on each one of those guys.” |
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Who will be the 4th starter in the playoffs?
Quote: | Gavin Stone:
- is still in the limbo period of being shut down with his shoulder inflammation, so it’s hard to know if or when he might return.
Clayton Kershaw:
- is still feeling discomfort in his left big toe, to the point that he can’t push off well enough to pitch effectively.
- Both are racing against the clock, even more so than Glasnow and Yamamoto at this point.
Buehler & Miller:
- The two healthy starters with experience — Walker Buehler and Bobby Miller — have both been far too inconsistent and at times downright awful to even think about them pitching in the playoffs. That is, if the Dodgers even have a choice.
Landon Knack:
- is pitching better than they are, and should probably get consideration over Buehler and Miller, if it comes to that.
Quote: | “That fourth game is still a very important playoff game,” Roberts said.
“Given the fact that you’re using guys in the bullpen the first three games, a fourth-game bullpen game isn’t feasible. |
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^ I agree. I'd choose Landon Knack as well for the 4th playoff starter. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:58 am Post subject: |
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I never thought I would see a dude more mentally soft who pretends to be strong than Dustin May. Bobby Miller comes along and changes that perspective. Dude is so soft and weak. That playoffs start last year was the first indicator but I gave him a pass because of inexperience even though the best playoff pitchers are like that from their very first playoff game aka. Curt Schilling, Fernando Valenzuela etc. Mentally broken soft trash. Dude is a worse Dustin May. Screams like a dumbass banshee after a big strikeout to show his "competitive spirit" when he, like May, collapses like a ton of bricks under true adversity. Kershaw was never a real playoff pitcher as we saw from the very beginning when we needed him to be the ace in the 2009 NLCS vs the Phillies, but he was never even as close to being as soft as this dude. This dude is bigger weak trash than Billingsley and Broxton. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:14 am Post subject: |
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aprevo15 wrote: | Snipes wrote: | Rest up everyone, another tough series coming up. |
The series I look forward to every year. Braves are my second faorite team after the Dodgers. Been a fan of them since Maddox, Smotz, and Glavine days. |
And it wasnt just these three: In 1993, Steve Avery was the best pitcher out of the entire group and the guy you wanted up first in a must-win game because of his talent and temperament. Then in 1996, they added Neagle and in 1998, they added Millwood for a rotation of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Neagle and Millwood. That might have been the greatest 5-man rotation of all time. These guys were so good, their high draft pick Kent Mercker had to be put in the bullpen in the beginning.
Really loved their #1-#6 hitters in 1993 with Otis Nixon - Jeff Blauser - Ron Gant - Fred McGriff - David Justice - Terry Pendleton. Speaking of Gant, I usually like the teams Gant is on. The 1995 Reds with power and speed with Barry Larkin - Ron Gant and Reggie Sanders that kicked the (bleep) out of us and the 1996 Cardinals that pushed the Braves to 7 games with Ron Gant - Brian Jordan and Ray Lankford.
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:18 am Post subject: |
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1995Lakers wrote: | This dude is bigger weak trash than Billingsley and Broxton. |
Oh man, Broxton. Dude always looked like a deer in headlights in any sort of pressure situation. Soft as charmin and completely worthless whenever it mattered. |
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I can’t think of a worse rookie to 2nd year drop off than Bobby Miller. There is something seriously wrong with him and the Dodgers would be best to just shut him down than kill his confidence for next year |
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Quote: | Sources: Twins cut minor league catcher Derek Bender for tipping pitches
The Minnesota Twins released minor league catcher Derek Bender on Thursday after he told opposing hitters the type of pitch that was coming to the plate during at-bats of the game last week that eliminated his team from playoff contention, sources told ESPN.
Bender, a sixth-round draft pick out of Coastal Carolina in July, was playing for the Fort Myers Mighty Mussels, the Twins' Low-A affiliate. In the second game of a Sept. 6 doubleheader, Bender told multiple hitters for the Lakeland Flying Tigers, a Detroit farm team, the specific pitch being thrown by starter Ross Dunn, sources said.
Lakeland scored four runs in the second inning and won the game 6-0, to capture the Florida State League West division and eliminate the Mighty Mussels from playoff contention after they had held a six-game lead three weeks earlier.
Fort Myers coaches were notified by Lakeland coaches about Bender's pitch tipping following the game, sources said. Bender's willingness to tip pitches surprised Lakeland players, and there are no indications of wrongdoing from the Flying Tigers, sources said. Bender had told teammates he wanted the season to be over, according to sources.
Bender spent the final two games of the season, which the Mussels won, in the team's bullpen instead of his typical place in the dugout, sources said.
Through his agency, Bender declined comment. The Twins declined comment.
A catcher and first baseman selected with the 188th overall pick this year, Bender signed for $297,500, slightly below the $320,800 slot for that selection. He will keep the entirety of his bonus, sources said.
Bender played 19 games for Fort Myers, hitting .200/.273/.333 with two home runs and eight RBIs. In three seasons at Coastal Carolina, he hit .326/.408/.571 with 32 home runs and 153 RBIs in 144 games. |
One of the stranger things I've heard. So childish.
But on the other hand, do we want a free 6th rd pick which won't cost any signing bonus?
It's dumb what he did but he should learn.
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QFTOS: Twins:
Quote: | This is bizarre and I imagine that more will come out. |
Quote: | Use my promo code BENDER for a match play up to $100 dollars on draft kingz |
Quote: | Straight out of Bull Durham. See ya, buddy. |
Quote: | Is this the catcher from space jam when MJ was batting? |
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Quote: | Rangers' Corey Seager to have season-ending sports hernia surgery
Texas Rangers shortstop Corey Seager will undergo surgery to repair a sports hernia, ending the All-Star shortstop's third season with the team, general manager Chris Young said Thursday.
Seager was examined by doctors in Arizona earlier this week and was expected to undergo the procedure Friday, Young said. It's the second sports hernia surgery for Seager in the past 12 months, this one on the opposite side of his abdomen from where the first surgery was done.
Quote: | "Obviously a tough decision but with where we are at this point in the season, felt like it was a prudent decision in order for him to make a full recovery, have a strong offseason and be ready for spring training," Young said ahead of the first of four games against the Mariners. |
Seager was put on the 10-day injured list on Sept. 4 because of right hip discomfort that he had been dealing with for about a month.
The reigning World Series MVP sat out almost all of spring training after surgery in January to repair a sports hernia. Last week, Seager said he hoped to play again this season but was also aware he would need a full offseason to get ready for 2025.
Quote: | "You can't miss two offseasons," Seager said.
"You've got to be healthy and get back into the work and get back into shape. Didn't really have any buildup last year coming into the season. It's something that you need to have." |
Seager hit .278 with 30 home runs and 74 RBIs in 123 games. He reached 30 homers for the third season in a row since signing a 10-year, $325 million free agent contract with Texas.
After his brief spring training, Seager had only two homers and eight RBIs in his first 29 regular-season games. But the 30-year-old hit .296 with 27 homers and 66 RBIs since May 3.
Quote: | "Corey was playing through some discomfort and he's so important to us and our future, to ask him to continue to play and finish out the season in pain where he could compromise himself or make himself worse, it made no sense," Young said.
"The right decision here was to go ahead and have the operation and make a full recovery." |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wow that pitch tipping catcher. LOL. Weirdest reason to tip pitches. |
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what's gonna happen here if lindor wins mvp? lol |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan32 wrote: | what's gonna happen here if lindor wins mvp? lol |
Shock.....it would be the greatest upset ever in MVP voting. At least in 1995 everyone knew why Albert Belle didnt win even though he was clearly superior in every way as a baseball player compared to Mo Vaughn. That wont happen to Shohei. Belle was so hated by the media that even though everyone knew Belle was superior to Vaughn, they all used the stupid ass Allen Iverson Fred Hickman 2000 excuse of "oh but if you take out Iverson, the 76ers are a joke" even though Iverson was always an inferior player to Shaq and was inferior to Shaq even when he won MVP in 2001. Mo Vaughn over Belle was a complete joke as would Lindor over Ohtani.
For perspective on how good Belle was - the dude got 50-50 HRs and Doubles in a 144-game season while batting 0.317 in (and this is very important) a PITCHERs park - Jacob's Field, which shows you how good those Indians really were at hitting that they could put up numbers like the Rockies in a much different environment than that overrated Blake Street Bombers offense - I have mentioned before that had Piazza and Karros played for the Rockies (check both their numbers at Coors Field), Piazza would have batted over 0.400 for the season in 1997 and Karros would have been a multiple times all star. Back to Belle - In 1994, the dude hit 0.357 and was on pace for over 50 HRs when the strike hit.
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ohtani will win MVP in a landslide, especially if he actually gets 50/50. There will be some East Coast Lindor votes so it won't be unanimous, and some will use WAR and fWAR as a justification for voting for Lindor. But yeah, the MVP is his, I'm very confident in that.
I'm actually interested in seeing how close the AL MVP balloting is, because Witt Jr. is very close to Judge in WAR and fWAR both. I'd vote for Judge, but it will be interesting to me if Judge wins more easily than Ohtani does. You know, East Coast bias! |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
All hail King Friedman.....dude is definitely the MVP of the organization. Think of Claire, Sheriff, Evans, Tommy as GM, Colletti......its not even close. We haven't had an executive like this who was so far ahead of everyone else since Branch Rickey. How funny too....when Rickey took over and built that team, from 1947-1956, going to the World Series was an annual rite for the Dodgers as was losing to the Yankees. Same issues for these Dodgers, playoffs baseball. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
I just think we should have also gotten Scott, with the Padres getting him instead. I still think our bullpen is a weak spot. Still think we could have done more. But that's because I'm never satisfied. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
I just think we should have also gotten Scott, with the Padres getting him instead. I still think our bullpen is a weak spot. Still think we could have done more. But that's because I'm never satisfied. |
Indeed....our organization is very well planned and run but sometimes you run into injuries that forces situations like what happened last year where Kershaw is our number #1 starter again and we run out of great pitching in general. It always makes sense to add talent, especially pitching talent, especially with a window like this. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
I just think we should have also gotten Scott, with the Padres getting him instead. I still think our bullpen is a weak spot. Still think we could have done more. But that's because I'm never satisfied. |
Reading the article LBP posted, Ohtani could come out of the pen.
But how does that work? Can he still bat if he is pitching or pitched an inning? |
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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1995Lakers wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
I just think we should have also gotten Scott, with the Padres getting him instead. I still think our bullpen is a weak spot. Still think we could have done more. But that's because I'm never satisfied. |
Indeed....our organization is very well planned and run but sometimes you run into injuries that forces situations like what happened last year where Kershaw is our number #1 starter again and we run out of great pitching in general. It always makes sense to add talent, especially pitching talent, especially with a window like this. |
And we barely gave up any prospect of note. Just think we should have gotten Scott, as it would be making our bullpen look so much better and also would have weakened the Padres, who got him instead. They have Adam-Scott-Suarez at the back of their bullpen and that sets up to be much better than anything we have. Phillips is probably our #2 guy and I don't even trust him anymore. Treinen at least knows how to pitch and generally knows where the ball is going, but his velo is down literally 5 MPH from his last full season. Hudson is cooked. Graterol, who the hell knows if he can give us anything useful for this season. Kelly? Yeah, no. Banda always felt like a mirage and now he's hurt anyway. Maybe Vesia can come in and get you a big out or two in the right matchup, but I think we can agree that you don't want him as a late-inning guy that you're depending on.
Every team has weaknesses, but this is my biggest worry with us, assuming we actually get Yamamoto and Glasnow into our rotation fully healthy for the postseason. I'm just not sure our bullpen is good enough. And we know we're going to ask our bullpen to get a lot of outs in the postseason.
Regarding Ohtani, I think that would really be pushing the envelope, but who knows. And yes, he could pitch in the bullpen and be taken out and still remain as the DH. MLB instituted "the Ohtani rule" a couple of years ago, where the DH can stay in the game as the DH even if he's removed as a pitcher. |
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aprevo15 wrote: | ChickenStu wrote: | aprevo15 wrote: | Since the trade deadline,
Flaherty has lower era than Crochet and Skubal.
Kopeck has the lowest era out of all the relievers that was available at the trade deadline.
Edman showed us why he was a good choice.
All in all we made out. This year's team is definitely special. |
I just think we should have also gotten Scott, with the Padres getting him instead. I still think our bullpen is a weak spot. Still think we could have done more. But that's because I'm never satisfied. |
Reading the article LBP posted, Ohtani could come out of the pen.
But how does that work? Can he still bat if he is pitching or pitched an inning? |
Logically, based on how and why the rule was implemented, he should be able to continue to bat. But this is just speculation and really not much of an answer. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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