You don't have to go back to Chick for examples of employees being truthful about the Lakers. Stu Lantz rightfully sounds like half of LG most game nights.
Worthy, Horry and most of the ex-players on the postgame show don't really hold back either.
Yup. Didn't BGJ almost get fired already this off-season? former players be having a Hella time holding their tongue
Seems like they are holding their tongue on Bronny...mostly.
Well to my memory I don't think big game James has been on spectrum at all this summer so far. They aren't carrying the summer league on spectrum so they probably have him scurried away in the closet somewhere so he doesn't say something again like whatever this was when he got caught on tape lol
I thought the topic of Bron playing with Bronny came up generally prior to that just discussing the draft in general, and there is social media quietude from them maybe, but I was just thinking that anyone associated with the team is probably eggshell-walking when it comes to the kid as a pro.
It's wild that you guys think any big company would let an employee put out content that's critical of the company.
Pete's point was that Chick would do that all the time. I get that employees are supposed to be homers, but I think everyone is a homer on LFR. This idea that you're never supposed to criticize the team is ridiculous and out of touch with what fans want. Fans don't want North Korean propaganda, they want the story told how it is. What the FO wants is another matter. They're going around snuffing out "leaks." It's embarrassing.
I think it's more that there was a Laker employee putting out content on their own personal platform that could be construed as overly critical or negative. They didn't fire him, they gave him an ultimatum - they didn't want him putting out his own Laker related content as a Laker employee that wasn't official Laker content.
That's double talk (not you personally, but rather the org). How can you be a journalist if you have to wait until some official version becomes sanctified? Besides, as a journalist you lose all credibility with your audience if you only spew tepid, pro-company commentary, so it's only a matter of time before you lose your audience anyway. You have to take a stand. It comes down to whether you take pride in being a journalist or take pride in being a PR mouthpiece.
GT was never a journalist, he worked for the PR/ marketing department of the Lakers. To some degree I actually give the Lakers some credit for hiring him as long as they did, because it's unusual. I can't think of another franchise that hired a fan while letting them maintain communications on their podcast.
It's too bad the Lakers stopped this arrangement and I think it's for a stupid reason (calling the Hurley saga a "saga") but I'm not going to pretend like this is some unique Lakers incompetence
Yes - this. Frankly I'm surprised GT took the Lakers job right when he was starting to take off with his solo act. Notwithstanding some of the silly responses in this thread, GT (as would anyone else with common sense) probably knew that this would naturally limit what he was able to say to some degree. I just figured he was interested in getting a bit of a peek behind the curtain and that trade-off was worth it at the time. The independent content creation world hasn't gone anywhere so, unlike Dan Hurley, he took his potentially once in a lifetime shot to work for the franchise.
This thread is very amusing. The Lakers aren't a big company so they shouldn't care what GT says? Really? They're not Wal-Mart, but they have something like 150 employees and generate over half a billion dollars of revenue a year. Much smaller companies with much less valuable brands are still interested in protecting it. To Tox's point, GT wasn't hired by the Lakers to be an independent journalist. He was hired to create content for the org. The point about calling the Hurley situation a "saga" sounds like some HR speak. It was probably several things accumulating over the years. And it was still up to GT how to proceed. I think he chose the right path.
Appreciate the comments and greatly saddened by GT's departure.
It is good that the Lakers are very mindful of ALL aspects that affect the "Laker Brand."
That GT is not a journalist but seemingly acting under the guidance of the Lakers organization is a difficult road to successfully navigate, especially in our social media world that dominates. That GT last this long is indeed a good thing.
Maybe GT can take over J.J.'s previous role as a podcaster with Drayond-like comentary based on his past extensive experience and expertise.
Given the new NBA's media deal that limits numerous content distribution, see James Dolan's complaint lodged against the NBA, that might have been a large factor in what all NBA teams are allowed.
Hopefully in the very near future, all members that loved GT's posts (like me) will post their response that will result GT's content in an online format when the next NBA season starts
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If the Lakers were paying him enough, he would have let the podcast go. They obviously were not and Pete felt the podcast has more potential. _________________ "He may say it's not you, it's him.... but it's really you."
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A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Given the new NBA's media deal that limits numerous content distribution, see James Dolan's complaint lodged against the NBA, that might have been a large factor in what all NBA teams are allowed.
I think this might be an understated reason. I hope the new overlords don't snuff out all use of NBA media from independent content creators (More FilmRoom than Podcast related).
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GoldenThroat belongs with the Jerry West/Jerry Buss/Chick Hearn/Bill Sharman/Rudy Garciduenas Lakers organization. Massive intellectual capital, tremendous character. Not with this thing that the Lakers have become. _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
Given the new NBA's media deal that limits numerous content distribution, see James Dolan's complaint lodged against the NBA, that might have been a large factor in what all NBA teams are allowed.
I think this might be an understated reason. I hope the new overlords don't snuff out all use of NBA media from independent content creators (More FilmRoom than Podcast related).
Adam Silver's CBA seemingly seems to handicapped teams that have successfuly developed large fan base (Lakers, Knicks, Dubs, Celtics, etc.) within the social media world.
GoldenThroat belongs with the Jerry West/Jerry Buss/Chick Hearn/Bill Sharman/Rudy Garciduenas Lakers organization. Massive intellectual capital, tremendous character. Not with this thing that the Lakers have become.
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Heard the podcast when he announced that it was going from affiliated with the Lakers to unaffiliated.
I think they'll miss Trudell because he was part of what gave an inside look at how some of the players were like day to day.
Just never liked how they had to tip-toe around all sorts of things being employees.
Plus they had times when they were all talking over each other.
Bittersweet, but at least they can be more "real" about the analysis, if you will.
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It's wild that you guys think any big company would let an employee put out content that's critical of the company.
Pete's point was that Chick would do that all the time. I get that employees are supposed to be homers, but I think everyone is a homer on LFR. This idea that you're never supposed to criticize the team is ridiculous and out of touch with what fans want. Fans don't want North Korean propaganda, they want the story told how it is. What the FO wants is another matter. They're going around snuffing out "leaks." It's embarrassing.
I think it's more that there was a Laker employee putting out content on their own personal platform that could be construed as overly critical or negative. They didn't fire him, they gave him an ultimatum - they didn't want him putting out his own Laker related content as a Laker employee that wasn't official Laker content.
That's double talk (not you personally, but rather the org). How can you be a journalist if you have to wait until some official version becomes sanctified? Besides, as a journalist you lose all credibility with your audience if you only spew tepid, pro-company commentary, so it's only a matter of time before you lose your audience anyway. You have to take a stand. It comes down to whether you take pride in being a journalist or take pride in being a PR mouthpiece.
GT was never a journalist, he worked for the PR/ marketing department of the Lakers. To some degree I actually give the Lakers some credit for hiring him as long as they did, because it's unusual. I can't think of another franchise that hired a fan while letting them maintain communications on their podcast.
It's too bad the Lakers stopped this arrangement and I think it's for a stupid reason (calling the Hurley saga a "saga") but I'm not going to pretend like this is some unique Lakers incompetence
Yes - this. Frankly I'm surprised GT took the Lakers job right when he was starting to take off with his solo act. Notwithstanding some of the silly responses in this thread, GT (as would anyone else with common sense) probably knew that this would naturally limit what he was able to say to some degree. I just figured he was interested in getting a bit of a peek behind the curtain and that trade-off was worth it at the time. The independent content creation world hasn't gone anywhere so, unlike Dan Hurley, he took his potentially once in a lifetime shot to work for the franchise.
This thread is very amusing. The Lakers aren't a big company so they shouldn't care what GT says? Really? They're not Wal-Mart, but they have something like 150 employees and generate over half a billion dollars of revenue a year. Much smaller companies with much less valuable brands are still interested in protecting it. To Tox's point, GT wasn't hired by the Lakers to be an independent journalist. He was hired to create content for the org. The point about calling the Hurley situation a "saga" sounds like some HR speak. It was probably several things accumulating over the years. And it was still up to GT how to proceed. I think he chose the right path.
"tox" and "Atticus" make very salient points, which I concur with. I, too, would have preferred the Lakers to have kept GT/Pete on, and giving the fans an unfiltered voice regarding the Lakers. However, teams as a whole are very protective of what gets disbursed, and naturally want any kind of news to be curated to their benefit. I'm glad they at least respectful, and gave GT a choice.
Sad that GT was placed with a tough choice, but happy to see him back to his old podcast ways! _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
The just signed media agreement (https://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40633927/nba-rejects-warner-bros-discovery-tnt-offer-enters-partnership-amazon-prime-video) probably make our discussions inconsequential given the control and demands of the NBA’s new partners
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former players be having a Hella time holding their tongue 
I think this might be an understated reason. I hope the new overlords don't snuff out all use of NBA media from independent content creators (More FilmRoom than Podcast related).
