Pete's analysis has Christie more effective as the 2nd best defensive player. I think it undersells growth you can have putting Christie against top dogs in the NBA and having him learn, but I can see what he mans from a "results now" POV. A DLO/ Christie/ Vando/ LeBron/ AD lineup is interesting if JJ can figure out how to work Vando in his scheme. Replace DLO with AR if Reaves had made a leap in playmaking and his shooting is closer to 40% than 35% from 3.
The line up reminds me of Dlo/CamRed/TPrince/LeBron/AD. It will take a improvement for Christie to shoot 40% from 3pt to match TPrince’s production and hopefully Christie can also be consistently better defensively and on the boards…CamRed/Vando may produce about the same…but if that leap is made by Christie then the line up with Christe/Vando could produce similar results as the one with CamRed/TPrince. We could actually start Vincent with them for the CamRed/Vando/TPrince effect of trying a different starting group focusing on defense since it looks better on paper with Vincent/Christie/Vando. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Prince was terrible. I believe he had the worst or second worst +/- on the team. Shouldn't be too difficult for Christie to outplay him as long as he shows a pulse on defense. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
Pete's analysis has Christie more effective as the 2nd best defensive player. I think it undersells growth you can have putting Christie against top dogs in the NBA and having him learn, but I can see what he mans from a "results now" POV. A DLO/ Christie/ Vando/ LeBron/ AD lineup is interesting if JJ can figure out how to work Vando in his scheme. Replace DLO with AR if Reaves had made a leap in playmaking and his shooting is closer to 40% than 35% from 3.
The line up reminds me of Dlo/CamRed/TPrince/LeBron/AD. It will take a improvement for Christie to shoot 40% from 3pt to match TPrince’s production and hopefully Christie can also be consistently better defensively and on the boards…CamRed/Vando may produce about the same…but if that leap is made by Christie then the line up with Christe/Vando could produce similar results as the one with CamRed/TPrince. We could actually start Vincent with them for the CamRed/Vando/TPrince effect of trying a different starting group focusing on defense since it looks better on paper with Vincent/Christie/Vando.
It's a similar notion, but the lineup with Christie/ Vando has worse shooting in exchange for significantly better rebounding.
Pete's analysis has Christie more effective as the 2nd best defensive player. I think it undersells growth you can have putting Christie against top dogs in the NBA and having him learn, but I can see what he mans from a "results now" POV. A DLO/ Christie/ Vando/ LeBron/ AD lineup is interesting if JJ can figure out how to work Vando in his scheme. Replace DLO with AR if Reaves had made a leap in playmaking and his shooting is closer to 40% than 35% from 3.
The line up reminds me of Dlo/CamRed/TPrince/LeBron/AD. It will take a improvement for Christie to shoot 40% from 3pt to match TPrince’s production and hopefully Christie can also be consistently better defensively and on the boards…CamRed/Vando may produce about the same…but if that leap is made by Christie then the line up with Christe/Vando could produce similar results as the one with CamRed/TPrince. We could actually start Vincent with them for the CamRed/Vando/TPrince effect of trying a different starting group focusing on defense since it looks better on paper with Vincent/Christie/Vando.
It's a similar notion, but the lineup with Christie/ Vando has worse shooting in exchange for significantly better rebounding.
You could run a
DLO/Christie/Rui/LeBron/AD lineup
And you have better defense. And you have a lot ot three point shooting.
DLO/Christie/Vando/LeBron/AD is probably the defensive lineup for starting it depends on what Vando's role as a slasher is and if he can be a consistent corner three point shooter. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Pete's analysis has Christie more effective as the 2nd best defensive player. I think it undersells growth you can have putting Christie against top dogs in the NBA and having him learn, but I can see what he mans from a "results now" POV. A DLO/ Christie/ Vando/ LeBron/ AD lineup is interesting if JJ can figure out how to work Vando in his scheme. Replace DLO with AR if Reaves had made a leap in playmaking and his shooting is closer to 40% than 35% from 3.
The line up reminds me of Dlo/CamRed/TPrince/LeBron/AD. It will take a improvement for Christie to shoot 40% from 3pt to match TPrince’s production and hopefully Christie can also be consistently better defensively and on the boards…CamRed/Vando may produce about the same…but if that leap is made by Christie then the line up with Christe/Vando could produce similar results as the one with CamRed/TPrince. We could actually start Vincent with them for the CamRed/Vando/TPrince effect of trying a different starting group focusing on defense since it looks better on paper with Vincent/Christie/Vando.
It's a similar notion, but the lineup with Christie/ Vando has worse shooting in exchange for significantly better rebounding.
You could run a
DLO/Christie/Rui/LeBron/AD lineup
And you have better defense. And you have a lot ot three point shooting.
DLO/Christie/Vando/LeBron/AD is probably the defensive lineup for starting it depends on what Vando's role as a slasher is and if he can be a consistent corner three point shooter.
Vando was becoming efficient in being in thev Dunker Position and doing backdoor cuts
Substitute Vincent for DLo, one would be even better on defense.
The most impact Max had was in the lineup with Prince, AD, Bron, DLO. If you assume that maybe Rui or Knecht can fill in Prince's role and that Redick will run more set offense and better plays, I think Max can definitely be even in consideration for starting this year. Definitely top 7-8 in minutes. Unless he completely stinks up the place in preseason, he should be a top 7-8 minutes guy this year. We need the youth, athleticism and potential 2-way impact.
Pelinka paid him 8M per, which is 3M more than Prince got a year ago. No way he's doing that if Redick doesn't have him in the plans.
Hopefully Christie can make the leap to playing 20-24 minutes a game this year.
Max, Gabe, Vando and Rui better earn their contracts this season. If all 4 hits, we contend _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
Hopefully Christie can make the leap to playing 20-24 minutes a game this year.
Max, Gabe, Vando and Rui better earn their contracts this season. If all 4 hits, we contend
Yes, assuming that AD/Bron are healthy all year like last season.
100% were dark horse at best right now _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
The most impact Max had was in the lineup with Prince, AD, Bron, DLO. If you assume that maybe Rui or Knecht can fill in Prince's role and that Redick will run more set offense and better plays, I think Max can definitely be even in consideration for starting this year. Definitely top 7-8 in minutes. Unless he completely stinks up the place in preseason, he should be a top 7-8 minutes guy this year. We need the youth, athleticism and potential 2-way impact.
Pelinka paid him 8M per, which is 3M more than Prince got a year ago. No way he's doing that if Redick doesn't have him in the plans.
Max is definitely better than Prince (Ham's Triple Threat - No Defense, No Offense, No Rebounds) who will be providing Ham his benefits with the Bucks.
I disagree with LFR about Max being the 2nd best defender out there. Toss him in the fire, only one way for him to grow! He needs as many reps as possible.
I am very curious about a starting lineup where Max is in the Vando role of "put him on the other team's best defender." The hope would be Rui can make up for the offensive downgrade from Reaves/Russell (whichever one gets benched) => Christie, who takes Rui's role as the 5th guy who just shoots spot up 3s and cuts to the basket. Defensively that has to be better than last year when we made Reaves our designated PoA defender
One thing you can say about Max is that the majority of what we've seen from him defensively came as a 20 year old. Right now he's all technique and effort. As he gets stronger and more experienced, he should expand the number of play-cases he can effectively defend.
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Given the barren off-season it very well might come down to Max and his potential jump. If he can be that legit 3D guy with scoring ability it changes everything. It's a shame old-school Ham stunted his growth. Perhaps JJ and the emphasis on player development will right that. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Given the barren off-season it very well might come down to Max and his potential jump. If he can be that legit 3D guy with scoring ability it changes everything. It's a shame old-school Ham stunted his growth. Perhaps JJ and the emphasis on player development will right that.
If MaxChris improves significantly it would certainly help but that likely won’t be enough. The Lakers would also need Wood/Vando to be significantly more productive than last year as well. Hayes/CamRed/Knecht/Vincent are longshots but any positive effect from them would be a welcomed bonus too. Still, the Lakers likely need all of Wood/Vando/MaxChris to improve their play…along with the starters health and consistency…to have the most realistic chance to be a contender. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
high hopes for this guy:
this season will tell us who he is or isnt.
Agreed
The Team is expecting Max to be a contributor this season.
Time for Max Christie to step up on both ends.
I think he's up to the task. Time will tell.
I’m pretty certain about max’s ability to contribute. He’s gonna have stretches when the shot isn’t falling but his defense, rebounding and all around effort will be consistent. That in itself is something this team needs badly.
Max, Vando, Vincent, Hayes really changes the dynamic of this team. They all bring energy that we really missed last season. _________________ “like I never left”
I’m pretty certain about max’s ability to contribute. He’s gonna have stretches when the shot isn’t falling but his defense, rebounding and all around effort will be consistent. That in itself is something this team needs badly.
Max, Vando, Vincent, Hayes really changes the dynamic of this team. They all bring energy that we really missed last season.
I’m pretty certain about max’s ability to contribute. He’s gonna have stretches when the shot isn’t falling but his defense, rebounding and all around effort will be consistent. That in itself is something this team needs badly.
Max, Vando, Vincent, Hayes really changes the dynamic of this team. They all bring energy that we really missed last season.
Completely agree about Max. It also underscores how foolish the previous coach was in at least playing a player who can play defense, give us serious athleticism, rebound, and be a good counter against guards with size.
Damn, I could keep going on because of how much disgust I have for a coach who couldn't find a bit of usefulness with this kid's skill set.
Watching his interview on media day, his face looks too skinny for his body now Props to Max for clearly working his ass off. If he doesn’t work out for us, it isn’t going to be because he didn’t put in the effort. Here’s hoping he has a breakout season.
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Props to Max for clearly working his ass off. If he doesn’t work out for us, it isn’t going to be because he didn’t put in the effort. Here’s hoping he has a breakout season.
