Pete Rose Dead at 83

DaMuleRules · Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:43 pm Post subject:

Yep. Bonds actively cheated and that’s get worse, even others were too. There’s no evidence Rose ever actually affected the outcome of a game.

That said, it’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of the Honorable.
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jodeke · Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 am Post subject:

I'm a Pete Rose fan. I'd like to know what the dislike of him stems from. If it's solely from betting on baseball I think it's unwarranted. Are there other reasons? if so please list and elaborate.
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jodeke · Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject:

ChickenStu · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:18 am Post subject:

Omar Little · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:57 am Post subject:

There is almost nothing positive to say about Pete Rose as a person. He made Ty Cobb look warm and loving.
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jodeke · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:58 am Post subject:

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slavavov · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:40 pm Post subject:

^^ Obviously a grown man hooking up with and boning a 14-year-old girl is wrong and creepy. Tax evasion is wrong. But when voting whether to induct an athlete into the Hall of Fame, what he did off the field shouldn't matter that much. It's a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of Morality.

You don't have to like someone or think they're a decent human being to respect what they did for a living. Two things can be true at the same time.

For example, I hate Elon Musk. Every time I see a picture of him I want to punch him in the face, and he has enabled antisemitism to spread across his toy formerly known as Twitter. But I respect what he has tried to do when it comes to electric cars and things like that (even though I don't care about colonizing Mars and that kind of thing).
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ChickenStu · Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:57 pm Post subject:

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As I said before, lifetime ban. He committed the one cardinal sin at the time that everyone, and I mean everyone, knew you couldn't f with. I don't think he deserved the sport's highest honor while alive, and I'll die -- pun intended -- on that hill.

jodeke · Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:57 am Post subject:

I'm torn. As Slavavov said this is the Hall Of Fame not the Hall Of Morality. Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantel were alcoholics. Barry Bonds and Iván Rodríguez were juicers. I'm torn because Pete was a pedophile. That makes the offense a higher mention. I'm honestly at a point of indecision. I want him in because of the way he played the game but I don't want him in for his sexual indiscretions.

EDIT: I agree Pete committed the cardinal sin because of the Black Sox Scandal but that doesn't move me to one side of the fence or the other because I don't think Pete threw any games.
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ChickenStu · Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:05 pm Post subject:

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Fair enough. You've convinced me. Don't put him in now, or ever.

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