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What type of player should the Lakers trade for prior to the trade deadline? |
A defensive center |
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An athletic 3-and-D wing |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:55 pm Post subject: A defensive center or 3-and-D wing? |
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It's EXTREMELY early, but the Lakers are starting to look like a different team to start this season, and it's starting to look like Darvin Ham held us back last season.
We just beat a very good and possibly contender-level team in the Suns, and the next night, we beat an improved Kings team.
I read the "contenders or too early?" thread, and it made me think we clearly do need one more piece. I don't really fear anyone in the West as there's lots of parity out here, but I don't think we can beat the Celtics or Knicks as presently constituted.
If we get to Christmas Day as a top-four team in the West, should we look to trade for a defensive center or a 3-and-D wing who can also fly downcourt and finish in transition? We have limited trade assets, so I'm guessing we can only get one of them. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I think you can get both if you're willing to deal both remaining picks. But to answer your question, a defensive center will only be helpful with a handful of playoff teams whereas the 3/D-wing will be helpful against pretty much any team. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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Hanging from Rafters Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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LBJ is listed as SF. Vando isn’t 3 but perhaps can flip flop with Knecht for 3 and D team up. There is also the possibility…tho both look like question marks…of MaxChris/CamRed. Finally there is even a longer shot of MaxLew. None of those are promising but for C we have AD/Hayes/Wood.
I said all that to say that the Lakers appear thinner at back up C so I see that as the biggest need even tho it does make sense that a 3&D wing does appear that it may be useful in more situations. Still, production for non-AD minutes imo is the team’s biggest weakness so my vote if for a C. _________________ When it’s a reasonable possibility, I expect the Lakers to go after a ship like it can’t be denied. I haven’t seen a respectable effort by the Front Office for the last two off seasons nor the last trade deadline. What is going on? |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hard to tell until Vando's back, JJ's been scouted by other teams (Knecht too) and we've had time to see how our current roster evolves and responds to a much more organized coaching staff.
At this stage I side with backup C, that's where I see one single injury hurting us a lot more than if any of our guards go down. |
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jb2 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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A starting center would be great but that pushes Rui to the bench and AD has looked great being used as he is. I think a 3&D starting guard while opening up a roster spot to sign Sharp would be the feasible path I would take... just don't know who that 3&D guard is. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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To me it would be a 3&D point guard, followed by a big center. |
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LakerDynasty6.0 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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OP can you please add "YES" as a poll option? That'd be my selection _________________ Starting Lakers Dynasty6.0! NOW!!
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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C (unless Hayes continue to shoot .900).
Getting production - when AD sits - is crucial. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:19 am Post subject: |
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We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? _________________ “like I never left”
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:22 am Post subject: |
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If we get another wing will that stunt Knechts growth? I’d rather wait and see what we have. I’d actually rather give Knecht more minutes than make a more trade right now.
AD/ wood
Bron/ Vando
Rui/Knecht
Reaves/max
Dlo/gabe
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:42 am Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? |
Bruce Brown. You need players that shows up when it matters. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:44 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | To me it would be a 3&D point guard, followed by a big center. |
Thinking of Mitchell from the Raptors. He’s not a floor general but he can run PNR and has that reliable 3 ball. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:46 am Post subject: |
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We have been needing both for 2 seasons now. Way not to address roster needs to maximize potential.
What's obvious to me though, no matter how hated he is, we need DLO play making ball handling. Reaves is best as a secondary play maker and has struggled with intense ball pressure since day one. Same with Gabe just on a much lower scale.
So if a trade includes DLo, we might be robbing peter to pay Paul and feel it down the line.
I would be shopping Vincent/JHS+filler to see what's out there. Of course nothing sexy for that but maybe something better fitting like Goga. Also have to remember it's still 2 capable back up PG's that are free agents that can take Gabe's spot in Fultz/DSJ _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:50 am Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? |
A player bigger than AD. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:51 am Post subject: |
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LakersRGolden wrote: | PICKnPOP wrote: | We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? |
A player bigger than AD. |
Would u go all in for Myles Turner? _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Can I have both? |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:09 am Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? |
I wouldn't hold my breath for Wood. He has never really done to little things to be a winning player. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I would do Robert Williams for Gabe Vincent+VM (Lewis)
And hope Cam/Vando/Max/DK provides enough for wing spots _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:16 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would do Robert Williams for Gabe Vincent+VM (Lewis)
And hope Cam/Vando/Max/DK provides enough for wing spots |
As a center? |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:18 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | LakersRGolden wrote: | PICKnPOP wrote: | We probably don’t do either until Vando and wood come back. We have no idea what we have right now. We have to look at this team through a whole new lense with JJ as the coach.
What if wood comes back and is giving us 15&8 off the bench shooting 38% from 3? What if max Christie starts playing up to expectations?
At that point what do we really need? |
A player bigger than AD. |
Would u go all in for Myles Turner? |
At 19M, all-in means creating at least 1 hole somewhere, so I would say no.
Gabe + filler: In a second
Rui: Sure, it would be an upgrade. Especially if Wood/Vando are back
Dlo? I would have to wait to see if he's going to remain exiled to weakside observer with back responsibilities.
AR - Not going to happen
I don't see where we're making a realistic offer there. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Robert Williams is a center. It's risky as he has always been hurt but when he is on and healthy he has proven to be an ALL NBA defensive player. Worth a swing if all it cost is Gabe.
Will have to fill the Gabe void in buyout market or another fringe trade. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:22 am Post subject: |
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There really are not many options for either. Champagne taste and beer pockets. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:32 am Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | There really are not many options for either. Champagne taste and beer pockets. |
It takes some GM'in and real scout work to identify gems that might be over looked and had for cheap in trade market.
Trevor Ariza. Rui. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:42 am Post subject: |
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AR/Wing/RUI/Bron/AD = Contending
Replacing DLO with an athletic wing that can shoot and reasonably guard guys like SGA, Luka, Edwards, etc is imperative. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:28 am Post subject: |
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If you are going to hunt a 3D wing... Lonzo is the guy I would take a risk on. Deep down, he wants to be in LA.
You put healthy Lonzo (insert meme here) next Reaves and we are cooking. |
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