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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:37 pm    Post subject:

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AD being the best Defensive Player in the league whom also puts up 26-30 points a game shows how bunk the "But he needs to rest on defense to save himself for offense.." argument analysts have been giving players for the past decade is.


To be fair, just because AD can do it…doesn’t mean everyone else can. I’m sure every player would love to be great on both ends and get paid accordingly, if it were that easy or possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:28 pm    Post subject:

34 points (57.1% fg, 40% 3p, 80% ft), 11 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 1.7 steals, 2.3 blocks with only 1.3 turnovers through the first three games. He's been great.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:24 pm    Post subject:

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34 points (57.1% fg, 40% 3p, 80% ft), 11 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 1.7 steals, 2.3 blocks with only 1.3 turnovers through the first three games. He's been great.


Clear cut, hands down MVP after 3 games
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:31 am    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Lakers star Anthony Davis and Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum have been named NBA Players of the Week for each conference.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:08 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
AD being the best Defensive Player in the league whom also puts up 26-30 points a game shows how bunk the "But he needs to rest on defense to save himself for offense.." argument analysts have been giving players for the past decade is.


To be fair, just because AD can do it…doesn’t mean everyone else can. I’m sure every player would love to be great on both ends and get paid accordingly, if it were that easy or possible.


Some people claim they can't put the effort in because they have to save energy for offense. Then cut their salary 50% if they can only play on offense.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:17 pm    Post subject:

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Los Angeles Lakers star Anthony Davis and Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum have been named NBA Players of the Week for each conference.


Celtics are feasting on crappy teams. The east blows now.

The end of season awards and selections should be weighted towards western conference players.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:50 pm    Post subject:

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Brawn13 wrote:
MJST wrote:
AD being the best Defensive Player in the league whom also puts up 26-30 points a game shows how bunk the "But he needs to rest on defense to save himself for offense.." argument analysts have been giving players for the past decade is.


To be fair, just because AD can do it…doesn’t mean everyone else can. I’m sure every player would love to be great on both ends and get paid accordingly, if it were that easy or possible.


Some people claim they can't put the effort in because they have to save energy for offense. Then cut their salary 50% if they can only play on offense.



That would be nice. Unfortunately the game is so offensively slanted today, that being a great offensive player while being below average on defense usually still makes you a net positive on the court.

Allow hand checking on guards (cuz refs turn a blind eye when bigger guys get hit) and hopefully blunts some of this ridiculous offensive numbers and makes defense more valuable
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:23 pm    Post subject:

AD is clicking on all cylinders. He's on a tear!
    30.6 PPG (55%), 12.2 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.6 SPG, 2.0 BPG
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:11 am    Post subject:

This is MVP stuff
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:23 am    Post subject:

Goat numbers
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:37 am    Post subject:

Hope he gets MVP and DPOY. He’s just on another level right now. As Shannon Sharpe calls him “Baby GOAT”
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Gave up too much for him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Unfortunately team success plays a huge part in these awards. Unless of course you are called Wemby
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:42 pm    Post subject:

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Gave up too much for him.


I mean if we had Hart right now we'd be wrecking teams. He fixes so many of our issues at the G spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:09 pm    Post subject:

Hate to say it but AD's defense looks measurably worse. Maybe it's because I have playoff AD in my mind? Or is it the offensive workload
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:32 pm    Post subject:

You deserve better than what this sorry ass franchise can give you dude! Ask for a trade.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:40 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Hate to say it but AD's defense looks measurably worse. Maybe it's because I have playoff AD in my mind? Or is it the offensive workload


Hard to anchor a defense when your perimeter defenders are pretty much like traffic cones out there and provide barely any resistance.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:29 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Hate to say it but AD's defense looks measurably worse. Maybe it's because I have playoff AD in my mind? Or is it the offensive workload


I've long felt he shouldn't be a fulcrum but more of an opportunistic scorer (e.g putbacks, lobs, drive-and-dish recipient). My hope was all the offensive talent in the starting lineup would enable that. I just can't see him scoring 30ish and anchoring our defense to the level that are used to.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:09 pm    Post subject:

https://x.com/mcten/status/1853683464765112687

Dude is laboring out there
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:24 am    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
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Gave up too much for him.


I mean if we had Hart right now we'd be wrecking teams. He fixes so many of our issues at the G spot.


This guy will never understand it's not the fact that we acquired AD that's the problem.

It's that we traded away valuable pieces that would have complemented him.

AD can't win by himself and by trading half the team and picks we put him into this position now that Bron is old.

The main reason we won the title is because two Hall of Fame players fell into our laps at the minimum.

If we don't have Dwight and Rondo, we don't win the title.

If we had two Hall of Famers this year at the minimum, we'd be in a lot better shape right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:29 am    Post subject:

How much will Zach eddy score on Wednesday? We have absolutely zero size to matchup with him. I hope JJ gives dalton a chance to show what he has too.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:38 am    Post subject:

AD trade was perfectly good. Very good in fact.

The issues were the other trades/non-moves:
- Letting Zubac go for nothing
- Letting Morris go for nothing
- Letting Randle go for nothing
- Letting Lou Williams go for nothing
- Trading for Westbrick
- Drafting Lonzo Ball when Jason Tatum was available
- Bad coaching decision with players who are thriving elsewhere (see Malik Monk in Sactown)

A lot of the issues came from Magic Johnson frankly but Rob is mediocre too.

I won't even get into drafting JHS because we have a skeleton crew analytics and scouting crew. They never had a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:16 am    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Hate to say it but AD's defense looks measurably worse. Maybe it's because I have playoff AD in my mind? Or is it the offensive workload

We’re running more and also AD is carrying the load like a MVP so defensively you were gonna see slippage. No way he can carry the load and we run more AND AD plays the same level defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:23 am    Post subject:

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tox wrote:
Hate to say it but AD's defense looks measurably worse. Maybe it's because I have playoff AD in my mind? Or is it the offensive workload

We’re running more and also AD is carrying the load like a MVP so defensively you were gonna see slippage. No way he can carry the load and we run more AND AD plays the same level defense.


He also gets no support defensively from his teammates. He can only do so much by himself.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:43 am    Post subject:

This guy needs more help
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