Rui isn’t quick enough to play in a lineup that already is slow with Reaves/Lebron/AD. Not enough foot speed there to cover shooters.
I think Rui/DFS are redundant so I’d ship Rui out. I liked him at first he reminded me of a mini Giannis, but he ain’t that anymore
Rui better scorer but not far
Both same rebounds
DFS better defender and hustle player by a mile.
But the difference is rui can create his own shot, which is needed if Bron is resting. So its really better if JJ will give him a backup role to Lebron.
If there's a time to get players acclimated to new roles (e.g. DFS starting and Rui as a 6th man), then there's no better time during a home stand against bottom dwellers. We have a month to assess Rui as well as any potential contributions Vando and Wood can make for this season. If we have both of the latter, I feel better about sacrificing forward depth to make improvements elsewhere. We badly need help on the boards. Having Rui as salary ballast opens up a lot of options without sacrificing guard depth (Gabe). That's assuming of course that Kessler really is off table for anything that we're willing to offer (i.e. no more than 1 FRP).
Yea I've wondered before if Wood can replicate what Rui brings if given the chance. There's gonna be a glut of forwards when everyone gets healthy and someone is gonna get pinched. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
With DLo, Rob could tell him we need 40 and he could go out and score 40. You're never telling Rui that or asking it of him.
The team needs scoring, the team especially needs bench scoring. And a lot of guys on the team that could coast by not scoring due to the insurance Dlo provided no longer have the luxury so need to step up and be more consistent than they were.
For Rui it's about having enough scoring in the starring lineup to move him to the bench and make him a 6th man scorer.
And again all these issues could have been solved with the roster we'd already had if we'd waited for them to get healthy. But we made the decision we made and guys need to step up, neither Rii nor Vincent can rely on 'coast' games for us to bear good teams anymore
It's step up or sit down time.
DLO’s points high this season was 28….
That was a reference to last season when Rob asked that of him when we were going in against The Bucks without LeBron and he did just that.
We can't ask Rui to do the same. So he needs to be more consistent, and Gabe Vincent can't skate by on 0 point games in 24 minutes anymore. We need DFS to pick up more offensively, we need Rui to be more consistent and we need Gabe to be able to contribute, all on a more consistent basis, the margin of error has shrunk with this team offensively. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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If there's a time to get players acclimated to new roles (e.g. DFS starting and Rui as a 6th man), then there's no better time during a home stand against bottom dwellers. We have a month to assess Rui as well as any potential contributions Vando and Wood can make for this season. If we have both of the latter, I feel better about sacrificing forward depth to make improvements elsewhere. We badly need help on the boards. Having Rui as salary ballast opens up a lot of options without sacrificing guard depth (Gabe). That's assuming of course that Kessler really is off table for anything that we're willing to offer (i.e. no more than 1 FRP).
Yea I've wondered before if Wood can replicate what Rui brings if given the chance. There's gonna be a glut of forwards when everyone gets healthy and someone is gonna get pinched.
Considering their respective health histories, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable depending on only one of Vando and Wood. But if we have both of them healthy and contributing meaningfully at the deadline, I'm not sure where Rui fits, especially if DFS is a better fit with the starters and Rui isn't thriving as a sixth man. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Rui isn’t quick enough to play in a lineup that already is slow with Reaves/Lebron/AD. Not enough foot speed there to cover shooters.
I think Rui/DFS are redundant so I’d ship Rui out. I liked him at first he reminded me of a mini Giannis, but he ain’t that anymore
Rui better scorer but not far
Both same rebounds
DFS better defender and hustle player by a mile.
But the difference is rui can create his own shot, which is needed if Bron is resting. So its really better if JJ will give him a backup role to Lebron.
Yeah Rui and Knect provide enough scoring power to carry the 2nd unit as they stagger AD and Bron. If Rui stays they can make it work.
Rui isn’t quick enough to play in a lineup that already is slow with Reaves/Lebron/AD. Not enough foot speed there to cover shooters.
I think Rui/DFS are redundant so I’d ship Rui out. I liked him at first he reminded me of a mini Giannis, but he ain’t that anymore
Rui better scorer but not far
Both same rebounds
DFS better defender and hustle player by a mile.
But the difference is rui can create his own shot, which is needed if Bron is resting. So its really better if JJ will give him a backup role to Lebron.
Yeah Rui and Knect provide enough scoring power to carry the 2nd unit as they stagger AD and Bron. If Rui stays they can make it work.
yup, simple as that. Hoping JJ do this though. Rui at starting 5 aint working
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Stringing together 1 rebound games in the texas two step, I'd say Rui aint working, period.
Rui isn’t really even a real tweener/cornerman. He’s just a slow Small Forward. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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I like Rui is when he is aggressive.
I think JJ needs to be a better job of letting players like Rui know their priorities. We are a lousy rebounding team when Davis isn't grabbing 20 of them.
I don't understand the Rui hate, he's been pretty good. Again, at his size and skill level 1) he should be taking more shots and 2) he should be grabbing more rebounds....
I like Rui is when he is aggressive.
I think JJ needs to be a better job of letting players like Rui know their priorities. We are a lousy rebounding team when Davis isn't grabbing 20 of them.
I don't understand the Rui hate, he's been pretty good. Again, at his size and skill level 1) he should be taking more shots and 2) he should be grabbing more rebounds....
but that goes for all the guys.....
John Collins is better then Rui Hachimura and the Jazz are trying to get rid of him, Hachimura simply isn’t very good, he’s not a Impact player and his offensive game is up and down, 1 game he will look good offensively and then come back the next game and throw up bricks
I can’t believe the Lakers would consider this guy untouchable, he’s a tweener , his offensive game is nothing to brag about either
Agreed, being a SF/PF tweener is the worst possible position a player can be in. Too small for legitimate PFs and too slow for athletic wings. His offensive game is all iso, not good at catch and shoot, the ball movement stops with Rui The worst thing about him is he does not like rebounding.
I can’t believe the Lakers would consider this guy untouchable, he’s a tweener , his offensive game is nothing to brag about either
Agreed, being a SF/PF tweener is the worst possible position a player can be in. Too small for legitimate PFs and too slow for athletic wings. His offensive game is all iso, not good at catch and shoot, the ball movement stops with Rui The worst thing about him is he does not like rebounding.
Had Rui been paid…around $10m/yr…appropriately he would be more useful. He’s producing decently as a 6th option should. At $17m as a starter however, he’s not worth it without being able to contribute when he’s not scoring.
At least off the bench…when 1st/2nd options sit…plays could be ran to get Rui more involved in the offense to take advantage of his scoring. As a starter tho, he doesn’t help the team enough to be there with subpar defense/rebounding/playmaking, especially with the contract price. It’s not cost effective roster building to have to bench at $17m player but it has to be done when it’s not working and then look for ways to improve the team by moving on from it.
Rui/Vincent/Vando/2FRPs/3Swaps (~$39m) gets the Lakers what they need in the back court and a backup C can be added for JHS/Hayes/2ndRdPics. Make those two moves with the right personnel coming back and the Lakers go from flirting with a 4th seed in the stacked West to a legitimate title contender. _________________ When it’s a reasonable possibility, I expect the Lakers to go after a ship like it can’t be denied. I haven’t seen a respectable effort by the Front Office for the last two off seasons nor the last trade deadline. What is going on?
Focus on rebounding Rui and shoot the open 3s but Board for Christ sake _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
Rui had 0 box outs in the past 2 games. That's obviously a problem. The bigger problem is that Christie, Gabe and Knecht also had 0 box outs, Reaves, DFS and Hayes each had 1 total in those games. I get more box outs than that in a pickup game to 11. None of these guys are glamor players and need to be committed to doing the dirty work. JJ needs to make this a point of emphasis for the whole team. They had the same issue last season and there was a point where Ham challenged the team and a few guys responded, specifically Reaves. Rebounding requires a team effort. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
If someone tells him that the Lakers could get Jabari Parker for the vets minimum and he'll contribute about what Rui does at 11 million less. I wonder if that's give him the kick in the butt he needs.
That said, JJ has DFS to threaten Rui with now.
And on the subject of Jabari Parker, I guarantee you he probably currently wants it more than Rui on the nights Rui thinks his position is safe.
I'm not kidding when I say Rui does NOTHING well other than C&S
TBH, our offense consisted of Bron system, unless he heads to the bench, He's better off playing for another team, Bron's kinda ruins players offense, Kevin Love/CBosh, heck if we got Kawhi back in 2019, he wouldn't even be doing the same. That's what Rui is right now.
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