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| Athletic rim runner (Capela) |
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| More switchable floor spacer (Portis) |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| kikanga wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | We should draft a Center.
I would take a look at Amari Williams coming out of Kentucky. |
The best teams have bigs that:
(1) protect the paint on D,
(2) space the floor on O.
Extra special bigs can do those things and can:
(3) lob threat in the pick and roll on O,
(4) playmake and throw passes operating at the top of the key/3pt line on O,
(5) switch and guard players decently on the perimeter on D.
Instead of paying Myles Turner $20M a year to do only (1) and (2).
I'd rather use the only pick I think we have (late 2nd round) on a guy like Amari Williams for 1/10 to 1/5 the price.
We really need to try and hit in the draft and find our own Dereck Lively II. I admit it is a risk. You may end up with a Willie Caulie Stein-like bust.
But Amari does (1), (3), and (4). With the potential to do (5) as well. He may go undrafted. So you could use your pick on someone else and still get him for camp.
It's worth mentioning, (3) is important for a P&R partner for Luka. I think Luka will make the game really simple for him on Offense. Same way he did with Lively. |
It makes a lot of sense doing that instead of Myles Turner if the Lakers were fighting for the play-in or a spot in the lottery. It could be entertaining to watch a young prospect develop and grow to help the Lakers compete in some regular season games. Over a few years it could pay off big in the long run to perhaps position the Lakers competitively down the road.
As it stands now…if a championship is desired…it looks likes Myles fits better with the position the team is in.
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kikanga
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | We should draft a Center.
I would take a look at Amari Williams coming out of Kentucky. |
The best teams have bigs that:
(1) protect the paint on D,
(2) space the floor on O.
Extra special bigs can do those things and can:
(3) lob threat in the pick and roll on O,
(4) playmake and throw passes operating at the top of the key/3pt line on O,
(5) switch and guard players decently on the perimeter on D.
Instead of paying Myles Turner $20M a year to do only (1) and (2).
I'd rather use the only pick I think we have (late 2nd round) on a guy like Amari Williams for 1/10 to 1/5 the price.
We really need to try and hit in the draft and find our own Dereck Lively II. I admit it is a risk. You may end up with a Willie Caulie Stein-like bust.
But Amari does (1), (3), and (4). With the potential to do (5) as well. He may go undrafted. So you could use your pick on someone else and still get him for camp.
It's worth mentioning, (3) is important for a P&R partner for Luka. I think Luka will make the game really simple for him on Offense. Same way he did with Lively. |
It makes a lot of sense doing that instead of Myles Turner if the Lakers were fighting for the play-in or a spot in the lottery. It could be entertaining to watch a young prospect develop and grow to help the Lakers compete in some regular season games. Over a few years it could pay off big in the long run to perhaps position the Lakers competitively down the road.
As it stands now…if a championship is desired…it looks likes Myles fits better with the position the team is in. |
Myles is a better player than Williams. And will be in the near future. But to get him via trade. You are going to have to lose at least 1 starter, probably 2.
We need a 10 person deep rotation. To get out of the Western Conference.
This year, Next year. And probably 5 years from now.
Doesn't have to be the guy I'm talking about specifically. But we will be better off if we can draft and develop a big.
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Runway8
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | @G how you gonna make a thread like this knowing just how much our FO hates Cs. You’re a glutton for punishment expecting this FO to do something about it, my friend.
Anyways, here’s some tidbits to hopefully help drive discussion for your thread, even tho it’s all for naught 😜
| Quote: | After being benched in favor of Onyeka Okongwu and dangled in trade talks before the deadline, the early expectation is Hawks center Clint Capela will sign elsewhere in unrestricted free agency this summer, league sources told HoopsHype. – via HoopsHype
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| Quote: | Bontemps: The general belief from sources around the league on both Reid and Randle is that they'll be back in Minnesota next season, though what form that takes is unclear. Both could potentially opt into their contracts and extend (Reid has a $15 million player option, while Randle's is $29 million) or opt out and sign new deals.
Between Naz Reid, Brook Lopez and Myles Turner, the most interesting position in free agency this summer -- excluding players like Irving, Harden and James that no one expects to change teams -- is at center. We got into Reid's situation above, but both Milwaukee and Indiana find themselves in cash crunches that will complicate the Lopez and Turner situations.
For the Bucks, if Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton and Kevin Porter Jr. all opt into their player options for next season, Milwaukee will have over $155 million committed to six players -- putting the Bucks just $32 million below the luxury tax with the rest of the roster to fill out. That doesn't leave a lot of room to retain Lopez if the team hopes to stay under the tax. Indiana finds itself in a similar situation with Turner.
Windhorst: Team sources told me the Pacers absolutely want to keep Turner, who is closing in on his 700th game for the franchise. But Indiana has to manage a cash crunch. They are currently projected to be about $22 million below next season's luxury tax without Turner, and he'll probably be looking for a significant raise on his current $19.9 million salary. The Pacers haven't paid the luxury tax since 2005, and there are no plans to go into it next season, sources said. Keeping Turner is going to require some negotiating and some maneuvering.
Bontemps: On the flip side of the negotiations for Lopez and Turner, however, is the depressed center market around the league. There are only a couple of teams with significant cap space this summer, and none of them is going to be targeting a big-money, veteran center.
So for both Lopez and Turner, their only real leverage in negotiations could be to take the full midlevel with another team. But that would be a pay cut for both players. As a result, how hard of a bargain will Indiana and Milwaukee drive for their big men? As the salary structure around the league gets more restrictive as the new collective bargaining agreement fully comes online, these are the types of negotiations that could be a lot thornier than they have been in the past.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/44418629/nba-intel-giddey-future-wolves-moves-lebron-option
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As for my vote…it’s Mr. Turner by a myle. Dude has proven to be a capable starter with his minutes and won’t likely be played off the floor in the postseason, cause his stretch capability makes him not matchup averse. Dude woulda already been here had we traded our ‘27/‘29 picks for him in 2022 when he was likely available by Indy in their RFA Ayton pursuit. And yes, you coulda teamed Luka up with dude if AD & Myles didn’t end up working out, cause Nico was obviously targeting AD more than that ‘29 pick and with our ‘31 pick unlocked to trade this year, that coulda just been bundled with AD instead.
Anyways, shouldawouldacoulda and probably still won’t, cause our FO doesn’t cee it that way. 🥸 |
Still twisting things. The center was AD. Not agreeing with where AD wants to play isn't hating on centers. Now he's not here, the Lakers do need a center and tried for Mark Williams, didn't they? They will try again this summer.
Then again, they traded my man Zubac for a bag of chips, so maybe you right. I'm tired. LOL!
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vasashi17+
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And clear the runway for the excuses. 🙂↔️
Agree to disagree, but dude had plenty of time to figure out a mainstay for the C position….and now our foreCast looks Hayezy.
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Runway8
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | And clear the runway for the excuses. 🙂↔️
Agree to disagree, but dude had plenty of time to figure out a mainstay for the C position….and now our foreCast looks Hayezy. |
I don't think so. AD was the mainstay. The trade came together, and who know the real timeline and how much time he had to prepare for the next mainstay center? That's all conjecture. I will give him till this summer. I mean their job now is to build around Luka. Believe it or not, I don't think Rob has been good at all. I've made my exasperations known plenty in the past, chief among my complaints was Zubac. LOL! I agree with you 95%, that 5% is about AD needing a center. I never bought that, so I never used that against Rob and the Lakers. As you stated, agree to disagree.
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drae
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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One reason to get Capela is because Trae made his career by lobbing up to him all day. Luka can do the same
One reason not to go for him is he'll be 31. Centers aren't really athletic rim runners heading into 30s.
But something like that archetype would be amazing |
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| drae wrote: | One reason to get Capela is because Trae made his career by lobbing up to him all day. Luka can do the same
One reason not to go for him is he'll be 31. Centers aren't really athletic rim runners heading into 30s.
But something like that archetype would be amazing |
That's why he is realistic target with MLE. |
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Well, maybe that initial run we made after the Luka trade was just a fluke. It’s possible teams have adjusted to what we were doing and now we’re back down to reality.
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Really glad rui is back
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Well, maybe that initial run we made after the Luka trade was just a fluke. It’s possible teams have adjusted to what we were doing and now we’re back down to reality. |
LBJ is clearly not the same. That's the main difference |
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| One of the top 3 for me, please. Having someone of the quality to move Jax to the bench would be great. |
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A few names I’ve been looking at who I think we can get this offseason. Only one really fits “center”
Bol bol
Larry nance Jr
Guerschon yabuesele
Christian wood
I really like the versatility of this team. We’re really switchable defensively and we’re at our best with 5 shooters on the court. A player like Yabuesele could work really well in that type of lineup while also giving us some size.
Bol bol could be a superstar. Idk what the suns are doing but come to LA and get some love big fella. We need you and you need us!
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Let’s not forget that we got Luka now and what will look like a wide open starting center job this summer. Players like bol bol who are up and coming may take less to have that starting job.
Also some ring chaser may suprise everyone and take a pay cut to be a starter.
Or some back up like Nas Reid? Maybe he feels like he’s a starter in this league!
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| Big Game James wrote: | It's surprisingly obvious that a number of people here are not seeing why this team has been so successful on defense lately. Targeting a more traditional big that patrols the paint (like Brook) would actually disrupt what Redick is doing. Look at why Hayes has been so successful. He is an athletic big that can step out, switch and defend 1-5. If that is what we plan on continuing to do, then that is the type of big we should be attempting to acquire.
An extreme example of that would be someone like Giannis. Ignore what he would do for us on the offense. It is defensively what we would love to have. Plus, he roles to the basket for the lobs. Athleticism is what should be the focus. If he has any range on offense, that would certainly help.
If I were to construct an ideal player, we need another Jaxson Hayes, but at a starting caliber level. Basically, clone Hayes, and in video game terms, move his slider in rebounding several clicks to the right and maybe his shot blocking a click or two as well. A player like that would not break the bank, but would thrive on this team. A couple of players that appear to meet that criteria would be Onyeka Okongwu (Hawks) and Daniel Gafford (Mavs). |
I like Gafford. I wonder if the Mavs are considering a KD trade and if the Lakers could take Gafford and send out Kleber + junk + '31 to Phoenix in a 3-way trade? |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know if the cap works but Myles Turner.
We need a stretch big. Myles Turner would be our Al Horford. He'd fit like a glove. |
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