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| silkwilkes wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | ThePageDude wrote: | | Zillethai wrote: | | Damn he went off |
I didnt' watch the game but see that he went 9-21. Was he efficient? |
I watched bits and pieces. My concern was that he did not look like the best player on the floor. Of course, Shake was awful running the offense and Bronny wasn't much better.
JJ has him on a short leash for a reason. |
Trying to motivate him for next season to have something to prove. With Austin and Goodwin, there are no minutes this season. He needs to really work on defense... if his defense is decent, he starts. |
Pretty much spot on.. It's not the greatest when out of shape Morris looked like the best player for us much of the Night. DK wasn't awful but even in this one you could see why Goodwin is getting minutes over him as he just has a vastly better feel for the game still. Hopefully that changes after a good off season for both him and Bronny. |
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Dalton showed us what we already know. Put the ball in his hands, he will score.
He has to work on his handle, and get his NBA body and that will start to improve everything else.
He has less to work on than Reaves had to because he won't ever need to have a combo guard role in the NBA, at most Dalton will be coming off screens for threes, spot ups and asked to get his own shot occasionally off iso's. Cross between Tyler Herro and Klay Thompson in terms of how he'd be asked to play if he reaches his potential.
What he needs to work on is still important though, but scoring at the NBA level is something he already has down and can only do better from here, which is what makes him the prospect he is. At this point it's getting it up to NBA speed, and that comes with reps and experience.
Dalton needs
- Improved Handle
- NBA Body-Strength / Conditioning
That improves in the off-season, and it will also help his defense.
- Experience
- Reps
That improves with time.
Dalton's got a very high ceiling because of his ability to score and his athleticism that he's already coming into the league with. The fact it's of no shock to anyone he went out there and dropped 27 today is a testament to that. If he had been drafted where he was supposed to he'd have averaged 20-25 ppg and been likely ROY. That's why Charlotte wanted him so bad and why they want to get rid of Mark Williams before the wheels fall off him. Because had they been able to pair Knecht with Lamelo and sold us a lemon they'd have had their duo of 25+ PPG scoring back court for the next decade.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Dalton showed us what we already know. Put the ball in his hands, he will score.
He has to work on his handle, and get his NBA body and that will start to improve everything else.
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If he had been drafted where he was supposed to he'd have averaged 20-25 ppg and been likely ROY. That's why Charlotte wanted him so bad and why they want to get rid of Mark Williams before the wheels fall off him. Because had they been able to pair Knecht with Lamelo and sold us a lemon they'd have had their duo of 25+ PPG scoring back court for the next decade. |
He has an NBA body and plays at NBA speed. DK's issue is BBIQ - knowing what to do and where to go when he's not shooting the ball. He is a 3-level scorer . . . but if he wants minutes with us, his model should be Michael Redd - a pure scorer, solid passer and decent team defender.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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he just needs to get his defensive awareness up... and play good positional defense. Nobody is asking him to be a great 1v1 defender. Just play your role on the defensive scheme.
He doesn't have that right now.
THAT SAID, if you need a bucket, DK can get you that wihout a doubt.
If he gets his defense sorted out, he'll score 20 a game in the NBA easy. He's that good a scorer.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: |
Dalton's got a very high ceiling because of his ability to score and his athleticism that he's already coming into the league with. The fact it's of no shock to anyone he went out there and dropped 27 today is a testament to that. If he had been drafted where he was supposed to he'd have averaged 20-25 ppg and been likely ROY. That's why Charlotte wanted him so bad and why they want to get rid of Mark Williams before the wheels fall off him. Because had they been able to pair Knecht with Lamelo and sold us a lemon they'd have had their duo of 25+ PPG scoring back court for the next decade. |
I still don’t understand why we attached a future FRP in the deal. That’s why I’m still not very confident with what this front office gonna do this summer. |
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I agree with him needing to increase his defensive awareness. He needs to stay in the film room. He’s mentioned a few times that he has a relationship with Austin. He needs to workout with Austin this summer if possible. Mostly pick his brain about how to get a favorable whistle.
He seems to get fouled a lot but gets no calls. Hopefully that’s a rookie thing.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I hope he plays in the summer league!!!
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Dalton showed us what we already know. Put the ball in his hands, he will score.
He has to work on his handle, and get his NBA body and that will start to improve everything else.
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If he had been drafted where he was supposed to he'd have averaged 20-25 ppg and been likely ROY. That's why Charlotte wanted him so bad and why they want to get rid of Mark Williams before the wheels fall off him. Because had they been able to pair Knecht with Lamelo and sold us a lemon they'd have had their duo of 25+ PPG scoring back court for the next decade. |
He has an NBA body and plays at NBA speed. DK's issue is BBIQ - knowing what to do and where to go when he's not shooting the ball. He is a 3-level scorer . . . but if he wants minutes with us, his model should be Michael Redd - a pure scorer, solid passer and decent team defender. |
Yeah, agree completely.. It's not remotely set in stone at all that he will get that much better on defense with just reps alone as it's mostly a BBIQ issue.. There's been endless good shooters that remained awful defenders their entire Careers. His size and body are one of the few clear positives he has in the NBA along with his shooting and having a decent offensive bag for a Rookie which I think the vast majority of people will agree with. Being a decent team defender and simply not making wrong reads consistently absolutely needs to be his top priority in the off Season. I think he has it in him but it's more than just a simple inexperience issue. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| He would definitely be a ROY candidate if the trade went through. |
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The dude scores 27 when he isn't shooting particularly well and there's no competent point guard and zero gravity on the floor.
He's playing with some of the worst players in the NBA against some of Portland's good players.
I said he's a 20 PPG player easily and he's scoring without Bron, Luka, AR on the floor.
I can't wait til some of these players are gone though.
How we ended up with the Len/Jemison/Koloko crew I'll never know. |
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The Dame Lillard Award for Best Rookie Shooter: Dalton Knecht
| Quote: | | Knecht has had an unforgettable rookie season filled with highs, lows, and a whirlwind trade fiasco that saw him briefly leave Lakerland for Hornetville. Through it all, the Lakers’ 23-year-old has put up the best 3-point numbers among his rookie cohort. Knecht ranks third in his class in total 3s made, but his conversion rate from downtown—37.6 percent—is outstanding for any rookie. He’s caught fire a few times this season; in a November win over Utah, he hit nine 3s. While Knecht may or may not be a big part of the Lakers’ playoff rotations, his sharpshooting from downtown is a valuable option for coach JJ Redick—and will keep him in this league for a while. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Played in 78 games as a rookie and he was traded for a couple of the ones he missed.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Played in 78 games as a rookie and he was traded for a couple of the ones he missed. |
As for his rookie class, he's also:
12th in total minutes played
6th in total points
tied for 10th in PPG
7th in 3PT% (with no higher-ranked played playing more than 44 games)
6th in Win Shares
I like the kid, and really hope he continues to improve, especially on the defensive side. |
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We need more than 3 people scoring…. Yet the kid can’t crack the rotation smh
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Tell me why Dalton led the bench in scoring with only 3minuted played in garbage time 😂
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Tell me why Dalton led the bench in scoring with only 3minuted played in garbage time 😂 |
Wow, I didn't watch the game, but nobody can tell me there's not at least a little action for a rookie who led all rookies in three point shooting.
The irony for me is that it's Coach JJ who can't find time for a sharpshooting rookie, in an important playoff game, who looks like a taller and more athletic version of himself. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Tell me why Dalton led the bench in scoring with only 3minuted played in garbage time 😂 |
Garbage time Klay Thompson |
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I get that Dalton isn't a good defender, but if the better defenders like Gabe aren't scoring and the starters are afraid to shoot because they missed a few then you put him in when you fall 20 behind.
Is JJ that afraid about losing by 30?
It's better to have some chance of coming back if Knecht goes on a heater than zero chance and just keeping the score respectable.
All the stars except Luka were overpassing because they didn't want to take the threes after they missed a few.
You can't beat a team that's on fire from three without using your best three point weapon.
It's not like Vincent was stopping anyone on defense anyway. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:07 am Post subject: |
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It is BS our coaching staff cannot find ways to utilize this guys skillset
I would take his shot going in vs the chance someone slips by him for their potential bucket..plus IF he gets even slightly hot defense cannot sag... opening up others opportunities
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| JJ needs to give this kid some love. We could have used him tonight. Luka was sick and AR is what he is. Kid Knecht could have boosted our moral with some deep 3's. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| troy wrote: | | JJ needs to give this kid some love. We could have used him tonight. Luka was sick and AR is what he is. Kid Knecht could have boosted our moral with some deep 3's. |
I can’t believe that they are not playing him right now. Outrageous. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Been a long time since I posted. Haven't been this excited about this team in a long time. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| No playing time for DK when we need offense. This is totally on JJ Reddick. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Like I said and have been saying
We need bench scoring in the Playoffs
5 ppg isn't going to cut it.
Our best run was with Dalton getting minutes with the bench and scoring.
The bench has been fine defending but not scoring and eventually it always catches up to us.
JJ should have been banking on Dalton instead of betting on Goodwin.
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