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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:04 am    Post subject:

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With all my heart screw mavs fans.

1. Because of the piss poor treatment of AD and Max. It's been damn near three (bleep) months you whining pricks.

2. Stay with your (bleep) team. Dont be those (bleep) fans that leave when the going gets tough acting like that team isn't good when healthy. Acting as if they're a bottom dwelling team now.


Seriously (bleep) them. Acting as if they got scrubs in return.

I hope you guys blow it up and have Spencer lead that team to oblivion for six straight years.

Post of the century

And you could tell it rattled AD big time. Sure we were doubling him and not letting him get easy post entry passes but he wasn’t playing with a motor. Something was mentally off there.

Really weird game - never seen that before. Actually I’ll get no respect for this post and take but I think Dallas plays or is trying to play a much better brand of basketball than we are. They had a number of things going their way - they had a mid post/mid range wing like AD who was drawing doubles off the ball and they have some really good 5s that can finish. Max looked really good. However they have no point guard, Dinwiddie is a joke for a PG and the team is completely different looking with a star like Kyrie at point. If you compare talent we cook them at the perimeter, as do most teams in the West but with Kyrie that entire balance would have changed. Our defensive tactics only worked because they don’t have a point/attack guard to make teams pay for doubling AD off the ball as soon as he moved into the mid range and mid post.

AD makes 60M and is a proven champ so I won’t say I feel sorry for him, but I do wish him well. Mavs fans are filled with Luka first zealots but that’s pretty much what you get when homegrow such a special scoring talent like Luka. Some fans become more about the player. He deserved the recognition pregame but the stuff during the game was disrespectful to the Mavs team that was trying to play for their home base. I personally could never cheer for an opposing jersey even in the worst of times during the Jim Buss era. Or Westbrook era.


The problem is I don't think they will have a star at point next season. Because an ACL tear, you'll need about a year before getting back to somewhat normal and even after that his lateral movement will likely be affected, which is a big deal for Kyrie.

They're probably a bust for next year at which point AD will be 34


You can get back in 6-9 months with some luck and proper rehab. I was playing 5 months after my ACL reconstruction.


Klay was out for the entire 19-20 season due to ACL rehabbing, but he tore it in the Finals which gives less time to recover. You can get back playing in 6-9 months, but to play well at the highest tiers of the sport I think it will take a year. Especially because Kyrie isn't young anymore either which affects recovery.


True statement, he can try to manage it during the season and by the time the playoffs come around he should start feeling more like his normal self. All I am saying is there is a chance!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:38 am    Post subject:

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With all my heart screw mavs fans.

1. Because of the piss poor treatment of AD and Max. It's been damn near three (bleep) months you whining pricks.

2. Stay with your (bleep) team. Dont be those (bleep) fans that leave when the going gets tough acting like that team isn't good when healthy. Acting as if they're a bottom dwelling team now.


Seriously (bleep) them. Acting as if they got scrubs in return.

I hope you guys blow it up and have Spencer lead that team to oblivion for six straight years.



What about Lakers fans piss poor treatment of AD upon his departure?

I dont recall a whole lot of tears being shed. In fact fans were celebrating


Dude we got Luka out of it of course we're celebrating

Im talking more about the way Mavs fans act as if AD is complete trash. That fanbase is imploding.

I've seen plenty of folks including myself praising AD for his time here. He won a chip. But the criticism is valid. He couldn't mantle the #1 so we went and got one.

Im an AD fan so it sucks to see him being handed a rotten deal. They'll always look at him and see Luka.



So then the point is Luka is several levels above AD. It has nothing to do with the Mav fans being a crappy fan base.

One fan base is pissed off for losing Luka, the other fan base is elated and celebrating for getting him.


If your going to call the Mavs a sh**y fan base, then we have to be a trash fan base as well.


I mean if I was AD, I would be more pissed at us for not lamenting his departure after 6 years of service.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:51 am    Post subject:

I think people upset at Mavs fans for not embracing AD and Max with Glee are not willing to put the shoes on the other feet

If for some reason Kobe got traded mid season 2009 the year after
Pau and Kobe lost to the Celtics??

For a young player in Max who is serviceable
And for a player who IS a generational Defensive talent BUT was still on the injured list and has some history of injury

Prime Kobe got ripped from Lakers fans hearts by a ruthless vindictive general manager RIGHT AFTER MAKING IT TO THE FINALS

Their King stolen.
Mavs fans didn't deserve this and neither would have Lakers fans had the same thing happen to them/us..
I guarantee you Lakers fans would go nuclear if some shady trade got Kobe shipped out and they would not give a (bleep) who management put on the court to replace him.
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I think people upset at Mavs fans for not embracing AD and Max with Glee are not willing to put the shoes on the other feet

If for some reason Kobe got traded mid season 2009 the year after
Pau and Kobe lost to the Celtics??

For a young player in Max who is serviceable
And for a player who IS a generational Defensive talent BUT was still on the injured list and has some history of injury

Prime Kobe got ripped from Lakers fans hearts by a ruthless vindictive general manager RIGHT AFTER MAKING IT TO THE FINALS

Their King stolen.
Mavs fans didn't deserve this and neither would have Lakers fans had the same thing happen to them/us..
I guarantee you Lakers fans would go nuclear if some shady trade got Kobe shipped out and they would not give a (bleep) who management put on the court to replace him.


Very little comparison. Kobe already had 3 rings. Kobe didn't have questions about fitness/health. Anyway Laker fans are toxic too, so I'm not sure what I'm arguing.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:11 am    Post subject:

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With all my heart screw mavs fans.

1. Because of the piss poor treatment of AD and Max. It's been damn near three (bleep) months you whining pricks.

2. Stay with your (bleep) team. Dont be those (bleep) fans that leave when the going gets tough acting like that team isn't good when healthy. Acting as if they're a bottom dwelling team now.


Seriously (bleep) them. Acting as if they got scrubs in return.

I hope you guys blow it up and have Spencer lead that team to oblivion for six straight years.


I don’t know what’s gotten into you, but I’m liking this energy. I lived in Dallas for a while, and trust me there’s a deep rooted bias against the Lakers. It’s not just casual sports rivalry either; it’s personal for a lot of people there. They’ll go out of their way to downplay anything positive about the Lakers and hype up any little misstep. I’ve talked to plenty of people out there who’ve straight up said they hope Luka leaves L.A. the same way Dwight Howard did, like they’re wishing it into existence. It’s wild how much space the Lakers rent in their heads.



It's probably the soccer fan in me

I cant count how many rebuilding years i've watched through because of piss poor managment. How many times i've watched star players get sold because the team needed money. I dont watch my teams because of a player.

Sure i started liking the team first because i saw certain players but in the end it evolves beyond that.

Did Mavs get enough in the Luka trade? No they didn't. But to act as if that team is trash is ridiculous.

The only problem they've had is that the trade coincided with them being ravaged by injuries to literally everyone.

And i've seen posts like you said as well. Dallas fans hate laker fans. I've seen plenty posts of them wanting him to leave LA.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:15 am    Post subject:

Zillethai wrote:
TMG wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
TMG wrote:
With all my heart screw mavs fans.

1. Because of the piss poor treatment of AD and Max. It's been damn near three (bleep) months you whining pricks.

2. Stay with your (bleep) team. Dont be those (bleep) fans that leave when the going gets tough acting like that team isn't good when healthy. Acting as if they're a bottom dwelling team now.


Seriously (bleep) them. Acting as if they got scrubs in return.

I hope you guys blow it up and have Spencer lead that team to oblivion for six straight years.



What about Lakers fans piss poor treatment of AD upon his departure?

I dont recall a whole lot of tears being shed. In fact fans were celebrating


Dude we got Luka out of it of course we're celebrating

Im talking more about the way Mavs fans act as if AD is complete trash. That fanbase is imploding.

I've seen plenty of folks including myself praising AD for his time here. He won a chip. But the criticism is valid. He couldn't mantle the #1 so we went and got one.

Im an AD fan so it sucks to see him being handed a rotten deal. They'll always look at him and see Luka.



So then the point is Luka is several levels above AD. It has nothing to do with the Mav fans being a crappy fan base.

One fan base is pissed off for losing Luka, the other fan base is elated and celebrating for getting him.


If your going to call the Mavs a sh**y fan base, then we have to be a trash fan base as well.


I mean if I was AD, I would be more pissed at us for not lamenting his departure after 6 years of service.


Dude i can say we got the better end of the deal whilst still point out that what the Mavs fans are doing is piss poor for three months.

Luka is the better player but AD isn't a scrub. He's a top 10 player imo when healthy.

The only reason Mavs are poor right now is because of injuries.

I agree with you i dont like the blatant disrespect AD has gotten on this board ever since the trade happened.

I criticize AD plenty i thought he was way too passive at times when we needed a #1.

But he is still a great two way player who gives you 25/12.

I hope next season he shuts everyone up and then promptly asks out of Dallas because he'll never be accepted. He'll always be compared to Luka.


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defense wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
I think people upset at Mavs fans for not embracing AD and Max with Glee are not willing to put the shoes on the other feet

If for some reason Kobe got traded mid season 2009 the year after
Pau and Kobe lost to the Celtics??

For a young player in Max who is serviceable
And for a player who IS a generational Defensive talent BUT was still on the injured list and has some history of injury

Prime Kobe got ripped from Lakers fans hearts by a ruthless vindictive general manager RIGHT AFTER MAKING IT TO THE FINALS

Their King stolen.
Mavs fans didn't deserve this and neither would have Lakers fans had the same thing happen to them/us..
I guarantee you Lakers fans would go nuclear if some shady trade got Kobe shipped out and they would not give a (bleep) who management put on the court to replace him.


Very little comparison. Kobe already had 3 rings. Kobe didn't have questions about fitness/health. Anyway Laker fans are toxic too, so I'm not sure what I'm arguing.



I know he had 3 rings. I was giving some perspective of having made it to the finals the previous year and then traded...losing out a Huge what if!!
What happened after that Boston loss.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:30 am    Post subject:

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Mavs fans are real ones. I can't imagine what they're going through. I'd feel like why am I still a fan of this team. I thought for sure Luka was going to be like Dirk and be a maverick for life, and win at least one championship


If they're real fans, then they wouldn't abandon their team over a player. If Luka left the Lakers, I would still be a Laker fan.


Blind loyalty is great and all, but it can get you taken advantage of. At some point you have to realize some ownership groups really seem like they're just milking their fanbase. Sometimes going there and cheering for them to get rid of the GM is the way to go to affect positive change. After all, why would they make a change if they're still selling out and fans are happy?

They're not giving out all those Luka shirts because they love him, they trashed him. They did it because they want their fans to be okay with having moved him.

Remember, there is a lot of talk about them potentially moving the team to Vegas. Imagine we traded Kobe and then the media was talking about the Lakers moving the team to Boston. Should we still support them? Should we still go and cheer for them? I think people would be mad, and understandably so.
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ContagiousInspiration wrote:
defense wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
I think people upset at Mavs fans for not embracing AD and Max with Glee are not willing to put the shoes on the other feet

If for some reason Kobe got traded mid season 2009 the year after
Pau and Kobe lost to the Celtics??

For a young player in Max who is serviceable
And for a player who IS a generational Defensive talent BUT was still on the injured list and has some history of injury

Prime Kobe got ripped from Lakers fans hearts by a ruthless vindictive general manager RIGHT AFTER MAKING IT TO THE FINALS

Their King stolen.
Mavs fans didn't deserve this and neither would have Lakers fans had the same thing happen to them/us..
I guarantee you Lakers fans would go nuclear if some shady trade got Kobe shipped out and they would not give a (bleep) who management put on the court to replace him.


Very little comparison. Kobe already had 3 rings. Kobe didn't have questions about fitness/health. Anyway Laker fans are toxic too, so I'm not sure what I'm arguing.



I know he had 3 rings. I was giving some perspective of having made it to the finals the previous year and then traded...losing out a Huge what if!!
What happened after that Boston loss.


Shaq was traded after the 2004 NBA Finals. He was still a dominant force at the time. Lakers fans didn’t cheer for him when he returned to play at Staples Center.


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Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.
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BEazy wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
defense wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
I think people upset at Mavs fans for not embracing AD and Max with Glee are not willing to put the shoes on the other feet

If for some reason Kobe got traded mid season 2009 the year after
Pau and Kobe lost to the Celtics??

For a young player in Max who is serviceable
And for a player who IS a generational Defensive talent BUT was still on the injured list and has some history of injury

Prime Kobe got ripped from Lakers fans hearts by a ruthless vindictive general manager RIGHT AFTER MAKING IT TO THE FINALS

Their King stolen.
Mavs fans didn't deserve this and neither would have Lakers fans had the same thing happen to them/us..
I guarantee you Lakers fans would go nuclear if some shady trade got Kobe shipped out and they would not give a (bleep) who management put on the court to replace him.


Very little comparison. Kobe already had 3 rings. Kobe didn't have questions about fitness/health. Anyway Laker fans are toxic too, so I'm not sure what I'm arguing.



I know he had 3 rings. I was giving some perspective of having made it to the finals the previous year and then traded...losing out a Huge what if!!
What happened after that Boston loss.


Shaq was traded after the 2004 NBA Finals. He was still a dominant force at the time. Lakers fans didn’t cheer for him when he returned to play at Staples Center.



He demanded a trade.. right? And was sent to the exact destination he wanted to go to.
Shaq even went so far as to disrespect Dr Buss demanding they negotiate his next contract while the current one had a year and half left iirc

Not quite the same
and I am certain there were still fans cheering for him -- just got a good laugh at the Lakers introductons.. no way was this coincidence.. at about 2:34 mark Lakers intros begin
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:37 am    Post subject:

The oddity of this thread casts a spotlight on how much online sports discussion has changed over the years. Ten years ago we may well have imagined some Mavs fans drifting over here. But Reddit has now overwhelmed old-style discussion forums, and it's also a very easy place to pop across different team subreddits.

It will be a sad day when LakersGround closes shop, but I can see it happening in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:32 pm    Post subject:

dallas wings just drafted paige bueckers. does that takes the sting out of losing luka? lol
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Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.


Why do you think the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders already have?
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The irony of trading Kobe comparison is that the guy that traded Luka did so in large part because he wanted Kobe like mentality in his star and didn’t see it ever happening. Pretty sure Nico was a big Kobe guy. Of course the argument there is it’s foolish to hold anyone to Kobe like mentality and if you have a Joker type as Denver showed eventually you will get the ring. Luka likely is another Joker type if the team is built well down the road. His floor in his prime is Harden and his ceiling is Joker.

I do think Luka has all time level upside on offense but as a winner and all that 5 rings and near GOAT status is a bit of a stretch. Kobe by 26 was well on his way to GOAT debates and all that was needed to prove is that he can win as a leader. Even then if Mark Cuban gave us Dirk, we would have traded Kobe lol!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:28 am    Post subject:

the only logical Kobe trade comparison is trading a young Kobe for aging Scottie Pippen in the early 2000s. i'm waiting on the 30/30 ESPN show on the real reason why Dallas did the Luka trade. all the reasons Mavs threw out there just don't make any sense. you just DON'T trade away a 25 year old (at the time of the trade) superstar for a 32 year old injury prone no. 2.
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The reason I brought up Kobe is because I feel Luka was "Their Kobe"
He was the Mavericks Messiah Savior so to speak
As much as Lakers fans loved Kobe / Mavericks fans love(d) Luka the same way.

I don't care what year of Kobe but I would have been Mega Sad if he were ever traded
Whoever would have replaced him would be a (bleep) Bum in my eyes for the longest time
The grudge would be Volcanic
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:25 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
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With all my heart screw mavs fans.

1. Because of the piss poor treatment of AD and Max. It's been damn near three (bleep) months you whining pricks.

2. Stay with your (bleep) team. Dont be those (bleep) fans that leave when the going gets tough acting like that team isn't good when healthy. Acting as if they're a bottom dwelling team now.


Seriously (bleep) them. Acting as if they got scrubs in return.

I hope you guys blow it up and have Spencer lead that team to oblivion for six straight years.

Post of the century

And you could tell it rattled AD big time. Sure we were doubling him and not letting him get easy post entry passes but he wasn’t playing with a motor. Something was mentally off there.

Really weird game - never seen that before. Actually I’ll get no respect for this post and take but I think Dallas plays or is trying to play a much better brand of basketball than we are. They had a number of things going their way - they had a mid post/mid range wing like AD who was drawing doubles off the ball and they have some really good 5s that can finish. Max looked really good. However they have no point guard, Dinwiddie is a joke for a PG and the team is completely different looking with a star like Kyrie at point. If you compare talent we cook them at the perimeter, as do most teams in the West but with Kyrie that entire balance would have changed. Our defensive tactics only worked because they don’t have a point/attack guard to make teams pay for doubling AD off the ball as soon as he moved into the mid range and mid post.

AD makes 60M and is a proven champ so I won’t say I feel sorry for him, but I do wish him well. Mavs fans are filled with Luka first zealots but that’s pretty much what you get when homegrow such a special scoring talent like Luka. Some fans become more about the player. He deserved the recognition pregame but the stuff during the game was disrespectful to the Mavs team that was trying to play for their home base. I personally could never cheer for an opposing jersey even in the worst of times during the Jim Buss era. Or Westbrook era. That said it’s their right and their fandom, so to each their own.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:55 am    Post subject:

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Mavs fans are real ones. I can't imagine what they're going through. I'd feel like why am I still a fan of this team. I thought for sure Luka was going to be like Dirk and be a maverick for life, and win at least one championship


If they're real fans, then they wouldn't abandon their team over a player. If Luka left the Lakers, I would still be a Laker fan.


Blind loyalty is great and all, but it can get you taken advantage of. At some point you have to realize some ownership groups really seem like they're just milking their fanbase. Sometimes going there and cheering for them to get rid of the GM is the way to go to affect positive change. After all, why would they make a change if they're still selling out and fans are happy?

They're not giving out all those Luka shirts because they love him, they trashed him. They did it because they want their fans to be okay with having moved him.

Remember, there is a lot of talk about them potentially moving the team to Vegas. Imagine we traded Kobe and then the media was talking about the Lakers moving the team to Boston. Should we still support them? Should we still go and cheer for them? I think people would be mad, and understandably so.


They can be mad at ownership without having to abandon their team. If they disliked ownership, then boycott and demand changes. You don't abandon your team just because ownership is incompetent. I would never abandon the Lakers regardless of what Jeanie does.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:37 pm    Post subject:

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Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.


Why do you think the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders already have?


Um. One reason - they were in Oakland.

Dallas v. Oakland is not a fair fight. The city only appeared to try and make it work with those two teams.
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Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.


Why do you think the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders already have?


Um. One reason - they were in Oakland.

Dallas v. Oakland is not a fair fight. The city only appeared to try and make it work with those two teams.


No, Grasshopper. The NFL, NHL & MLB are in Vegas - and the NBA soon will be - because of the ability to generate additional revenue in the #40 media market that you can't in the #13 (SEA/TAC), #23 (POR), #27 (PIT), #33(KC, #34 (AUS), #37 (CIN) or other markets.

The new revenue model in sports is having an a team as an anchor tenant in a building that will make most of its $$$ on other events.

- 70% of the GSW parent company's revenue comes from non-Warriors events at the Chase Center.

- Stan Kronke didn't bat an eye when the cost of SoFi went from $2 billion to $5 billion. Why? Because SoFi generates $400 million in revenue (and climbing) annually. Kronke will have made his $$$ back in less than 10 years, and he does not have to share the non-football revenue.

Now imagine owning that anchor tenant team. Them imagine owning the arena. Then imagine the arena is in your hotel. Then imagine your hotel is a casino.

THAT'S why EVERYONE wants to own a team in Las Vegas. It's a license to print money.
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Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.


Why do you think the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders already have?


Because Oakland is run by government officials who have done absolutely nothing to support them. As for being in Las Vegas, the A’s will own their field but the Raiders don’t own Alliegent Stadium and the Golden Knights don’t own TMobile. I would be very surprised if we see an NBA team there in this decade.
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Bunch of crybabies who have had to deal with their GM for not even 4 years yet…meanwhile over here, we’ve endured ours for 8 years already

They can choose to do as they wish, as I said. I just found it weird, you can't hate on players that had no part in the trade process. By actively cheering for the opponent, you crapped all over your own team's players. Yes, chant fire Nico all you wish. That's cool. But the game was clearly like a home game for the Lakers vs and away game for Dallas. I don't think I've ever seen that, ever.

As I said fans can do as they wish, but if you go back to all the tough calls Dr Buss made and many times things went bad for us, we still never saw that. Shaq won a title and a ECF while we went lottery and 1and done.
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Dr. Laker wrote:
BEazy wrote:
Dallas-Fort Worth ranks as the 4th largest media and advertising market in the U.S., while Las Vegas sits way down at 40th. The idea of the Mavericks relocating to Vegas is beyond ridiculous. Adelson and Dumont might not excel at running basketball operations, but they’re not clueless when it comes to market value and business sense. Pulling the Mavs out of DFW would be a massive financial misstep. This whole narrative is baseless and doesn’t add up in any realistic scenario.


Why do you think the A's are moving to Vegas and the Raiders already have?


Um. One reason - they were in Oakland.

Dallas v. Oakland is not a fair fight. The city only appeared to try and make it work with those two teams.


No, Grasshopper. The NFL, NHL & MLB are in Vegas - and the NBA soon will be - because of the ability to generate additional revenue in the #40 media market that you can't in the #13 (SEA/TAC), #23 (POR), #27 (PIT), #33(KC, #34 (AUS), #37 (CIN) or other markets.

The new revenue model in sports is having an a team as an anchor tenant in a building that will make most of its $$$ on other events.

- 70% of the GSW parent company's revenue comes from non-Warriors events at the Chase Center.

- Stan Kronke didn't bat an eye when the cost of SoFi went from $2 billion to $5 billion. Why? Because SoFi generates $400 million in revenue (and climbing) annually. Kronke will have made his $$$ back in less than 10 years, and he does not have to share the non-football revenue.

Now imagine owning that anchor tenant team. Them imagine owning the arena. Then imagine the arena is in your hotel. Then imagine your hotel is a casino.

THAT'S why EVERYONE wants to own a team in Las Vegas. It's a license to print money.


So do, or are, the Dallas Mavericks owners own or buying a stadium in Vegas?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:35 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
The oddity of this thread casts a spotlight on how much online sports discussion has changed over the years. Ten years ago we may well have imagined some Mavs fans drifting over here. But Reddit has now overwhelmed old-style discussion forums, and it's also a very easy place to pop across different team subreddits.

It will be a sad day when LakersGround closes shop, but I can see it happening in the future.


It's life. BBS started in 1978 - 47 years ago - and the group that popularized them are in their 70s and older. Delphi Forums started in 1983 - those of us who were in college then are in our 60s now. Web based forums started 30 years ago - the original users are in their 40s and 50s.

My 14 year old grand daughter can go on reddit on her phone, using the app, which is a much better experience than doing a web based forum on your phone.
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