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Zillethai
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Kobetan wrote: | | What bench |
Both DFS and Gabe made their only shot in the 1st quarter. Didn’t make any for the rest of the game.
I rather play Knecht in there than Goodwin.
AR/Gabe/Goodwin is just too small out there. |
Gabe took 3 shots the entire game. They're not getting involved in the offense |
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Vin
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Zillethai wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Kobetan wrote: | | What bench |
Both DFS and Gabe made their only shot in the 1st quarter. Didn’t make any for the rest of the game.
I rather play Knecht in there than Goodwin.
AR/Gabe/Goodwin is just too small out there. |
Gabe took 3 shots the entire game. They're not getting involved in the offense |
Honestly in the second half we had no penetration and kick out opportunities. They locked in on us and we looked lethargic out there. No transition basket and they mostly played us one on one. |
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LakerDYnasty72
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I did not watch the game yesterday. I'm at the point of my basketball life in which I don't like to watch the ups & downs of my favorite Lakers playing, only for us to lose in the end. I had a strong feeling yesterday would be a loss before the game started.
Why? Because Pelinka did an excellent job obtaining our next leader in Luka. However, even before the trade, and it's still painfully apparent after the trade, that we have some serious holes to fill.
The Williams trade, and it's subsequent revocation, in my estimation, doomed our chances for a serious shot at a ring. The acquisition of a talented 7footer to pair w/Hayes at the 5 would have been the one element I believe would have changed our trajectory.
After the failed trade, and as it stands now, I've always felt we're just waiting to be exposed. I do love our future prospects, but our present prospects are only vital for us to pinpoint what we need to do post playoffs. |
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parsons777
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| Big Game James wrote: | I really can't believe I keep hearing the same sentiment on here and in other threads, to play Hayes more. Hayes is the only player that can make Gobert relevant in this matchup, since Hayes cannot spread the floor, but keeps Rudy in the paint where Rudy is most effective.
JJ pulled Hayes after just 4 minutes into the first quarter because he saw the same thing. My biggest concern was Naz Reid over Gobert. If you want Hayes to play more, maybe JJ decides to put him in when Rudy is pulled. Otherwise, we get better matchups with Hayes on the bench. |
So, you set a pick and get Goby off Jax. Then Jax goes close to the rim. I think someone on our team wanted something like this...What is that guy's name? Cannot remember. Oh yeah, Luka Doncic! |
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LakerFan1987
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It's times like this I wish we had a strong bench player like Karl Kuzma
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LakersMD
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | Because Pelinka did an excellent job obtaining our next leader in Luka. However, even before the trade, and it's still painfully apparent after the trade, that we have some serious holes to fill.
The Williams trade, and it's subsequent revocation, in my estimation, doomed our chances for a serious shot at a ring. The acquisition of a talented 7footer to pair w/Hayes at the 5 would have been the one element I believe would have changed our trajectory.
After the failed trade, and as it stands now, I've always felt we're just waiting to be exposed. I do love our future prospects, but our present prospects are only vital for us to pinpoint what we need to do post playoffs. |
Pretty much. |
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slavavov
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This is why some of us have wanted Hachimura to be made the sixth man and for DFS to start instead.
Hachimura has some iso skills, and when the Lakers utilize him, they're a much better team.
This article pointed out how different the Lakers are when he takes at least 10 shots versus when he takes fewer than 10 shots in a game: https://lakeshowlife.com/key-statistic-shows-lakers-rui-hachimura-2025-nba-playoffs
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| I really wish that we had converted Jemison's contract, just to have another big to look at during the series. |
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SGV-Laker fan
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Our bench sucks, when they missing threes they stop play defense. Look at warriors bench, even seldomlu used Santos came in and delivered.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| slavavov wrote: | This is why some of us have wanted Hachimura to be made the sixth man and for DFS to start instead.
Hachimura has some iso skills, and when the Lakers utilize him, they're a much better team.
This article pointed out how different the Lakers are when he takes at least 10 shots versus when he takes fewer than 10 shots in a game: https://lakeshowlife.com/key-statistic-shows-lakers-rui-hachimura-2025-nba-playoffs |
DFS was the starter on those Dallas team with Luka they made deep playoff runs. Rui was starting on a sorry arsenal Wizard team. I don’t get it why Rui is starting over DFS. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | This is why some of us have wanted Hachimura to be made the sixth man and for DFS to start instead.
Hachimura has some iso skills, and when the Lakers utilize him, they're a much better team.
This article pointed out how different the Lakers are when he takes at least 10 shots versus when he takes fewer than 10 shots in a game: https://lakeshowlife.com/key-statistic-shows-lakers-rui-hachimura-2025-nba-playoffs |
DFS was the starter on those Dallas team with Luka they made deep playoff runs. Rui was starting on a sorry arsenal Wizard team. I don’t get it why Rui is starting over DFS. |
DFS starting over Rui has some merit.
But using their roles from two different teams + years ago as reasoning?
What the hell |
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I still think Rui and Austin would be better off the bench.
Hayes
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Gabe
Vando
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Reaves
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Hanging from Rafters
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | I still think Rui and Austin would be better off the bench.
Hayes
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Bron
Luka
Gabe
Vando
Rui
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Reaves
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Gabe/AR/Rui/Hayes would be excellent reserves for a 9 man playoff rotation. The problem with benching AR/Rui tho is that Gabe/Hayes aren’t consistent NBA playoff quality starters who just don’t provide enough contributions to send the others to the bench. If Gabe could make plays and drive to the hole, and Hayes could rebound better, provide some post moves and spread the floor, then maybe it would work. As is tho, the roster is at least 1 starter…and maybe even 2…short of a legitimate playoff contender.
To make do with what they have tho, they may not have a choice but to try Gabe/Luka/DFS/LBJ/Hayes as starters. Maybe they could get by and make it work if just one of AR/Rui starts instead of both.
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| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | I did not watch the game yesterday. I'm at the point of my basketball life in which I don't like to watch the ups & downs of my favorite Lakers playing, only for us to lose in the end. I had a strong feeling yesterday would be a loss before the game started.
Why? Because Pelinka did an excellent job obtaining our next leader in Luka. However, even before the trade, and it's still painfully apparent after the trade, that we have some serious holes to fill.
The Williams trade, and it's subsequent revocation, in my estimation, doomed our chances for a serious shot at a ring. The acquisition of a talented 7footer to pair w/Hayes at the 5 would have been the one element I believe would have changed our trajectory.
After the failed trade, and as it stands now, I've always felt we're just waiting to be exposed. I do love our future prospects, but our present prospects are only vital for us to pinpoint what we need to do post playoffs. |
Doggonnit…I sooo desperately want ^^^ this to not be true but…I see now and saw it then the exact same way. I just hope we’re wrong.
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I don't think you bench Reaves. I think you really, really need to abuse Conley. This is like so much of Rui's value proposition in the first place. I don't know what happened to make the Lakers post up Rui once (and he shot a turn around fade over Conley?) but they need to bully the (bleep) out of Conley. The minute they stick him on Reaves, you are running perpetual LeBron/Reaves PnR actions.
Luka can attack Gobert as he wishes. Reaves should do so sparingly. LeBron should not at all, he has had problems beating bigs on the switch for years now. |
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You can't start DFS because he's the backup 5 and it would screw up the rotations once Hayes goes to the bench. Because of the roster imbalance I think you need to heavily lean on Luka/Bron/Reaves to go berserk offensively especially against this Wolves team that presents a mismatch for this Laker roster. If they had another true center I think this is an example of a matchup where Reaves could really benefit from coming off the bench as the Wolves are one of the few teams who have a 3rd high level defender to stick on AR.
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| manlisten wrote: | | You can't start DFS because he's the backup 5 and it would screw up the rotations once Hayes goes to the bench. Because of the roster imbalance I think you need to heavily lean on Luka/Bron/Reaves to go berserk offensively especially against this Wolves team that presents a mismatch for this Laker roster. If they had another true center I think this is an example of a matchup where Reaves could really benefit from coming off the bench as the Wolves are one of the few teams who have a 3rd high level defender to stick on AR. |
why can't Rui be the backup center? he's bigger and stronger than DFS, why playing Rui in a role which he has to chase skinnier, more athletic wings around? |
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| And the best scorer off the bench is not getting any meaningful playing time. JJ Reddick may be outsmarting himself |
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Really concerned we’re going to run out of juice at this pace. We are more or less playing 5 guys + a dose of Gabe + a splash of Vando + a tiny bit of Hayes and a fraction of Goodwin.
Any chance Kleber returns from injury? He could chew up a few mins. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Another 13 points performance by our bench...
Just glad they were able to slow down Minny's bench tonight. |
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Maxi Kleber can actually be a big addition for us considering we need viable bodies out there. hmm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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4 freaking points tonight..... 
55 total points for the whole series |
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| miggz23 wrote: | 4 freaking points tonight.....
55 total points for the whole series |
I hope this is addressed in the off-season. Extremely hard to win like that. It's a miracle 4 of the 5 games were so close. |
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