Feel bad for him because I think if we were going to lose this series anyways...
I thought JJ should have given him a chance to prove himself in game 5... Maybe Gobert would have never went off like he did tonight.
Agreed, unless Hayes got caught sneaking strippers into the locker room hot tub after curfew…or something…he shouldn’t have got the kind of treatment from JJ. The team looked zoned out, the move could have fractured the chemistry on the team. Gobert killed us from the 1st bucket and got an offense rebound on the second, JJ should have pivoted before it got to 27pts/24rbs. That kind of stubbornness got the last two coaches fired imo. Vogel refused to play Gasol/Trezz and Ham wouldn’t bench Prince while also running 3 guards into losses repeatedly. You gotta put Hayes in before Kleber, and then Knecht should have got some run too. It looked like foolish coach stubbornness.
I don’t think anything would have made a difference without a starting C so JJ was probably just grasping at straws trying to make things work but still, you can’t just let a mediocre offensive player go for 27 in a close out game by sticking with what’s not working. _________________ When reasonably possible, I expect the Lakers to go after a ship like it can’t be denied. I haven’t seen a completely committed effort by the GM for the last 2 off seasons nor the last 2 trade deadlines. What is going on?
Hard to get over the fact that JJ Redick built him up in the regular season only to humiliate him and destroy his confidence in the playoffs. If this is a sign of things to come, Lakers are screwed. Even Maxi Kleber, a guy who didn't play a single minute in a Laker uniform prior to this game, got time over him. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
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There was no building up. He was losing more and more playing time as the season ended. In game 1, he did nothing. After that, he started games but had a very short leash… and still did nothing. Too weak to compete against a big wolves team.
He’s a g league player imo. _________________ "He may say it's not you, it's him.... but it's really you."
I have been critical of JJ, but not in this case. Jaxson was given the opportunity and he failed. He was in a nice position ($$$$) and failed miserably. I always said he was nothing more than an average back up at best. The he can catch lobs committee did not want to look at the rest of his game (lack thereof) and his low IQ.
Ah .. how things change .. just a month ago the kid could do no wrong.
I felt bad for him when JJ made the comment pregame about he wouldn’t play him. Then Gobert dominated and tnt cut to his face twice as the lakers subbed in Kleiber who hadn’t even did a 5 on 5 practice according the broadcast
JJ let perfect be the enemy of good. Hayes was bad in the series but he provides size and athleticism, two things we were sorely lacking. You might as well play Hayes if you're giving Maxi Kleber two stints.
Well the game JJ decided not to play him, Gobert got 30/20. All he proved was that no matter what we go nowhere without him. Whether he's on or off. He brings things we need.
JJ not going back him when he realized it was a mistake was the biggest faux pas. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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Ah .. how things change .. just a month ago the kid could do no wrong.
I felt bad for him when JJ made the comment pregame about he wouldn’t play him. Then Gobert dominated and tnt cut to his face twice as the lakers subbed in Kleiber who hadn’t even did a 5 on 5 practice according the broadcast
Rudy went off because the pit bull known as Jaxson did not play his average minutes (7.5 pg) in the series.
Rudy played about 39 minutes, maybe we should have given Jax
a chance out there. I mean Rudy did destroyed the small ball
team, why not give Jax a shot? What was there to loose
we didn't already loose? _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team !
Rudy went off because the pit bull known as Jaxson did not play his average minutes (7.5 pg) in the series.
Rudy played about 39 minutes, maybe we should have given Jax
a chance out there. I mean Rudy did destroyed the small ball
team, why not give Jax a shot? What was there to loose
we didn't already loose?
If any of those rebounds that Rudy got off a Minnesota miss while the Lakera had the lead had been gotten by Jax or tapped out to a teammate by Jax, the outcome of the game could have been swayed.
As much as I hate the Celtics their Coach says it's always about the little things that add up. And JJ ignoring the rebounding deficit and keeping Hayes out is what caught up. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
I just don't think we'll get a big with Hayes length/size abilities and experience for the vet min, but maybe I'm wrong. You guys saw Len. You've seen Bamba, Woods, etc. Those guys weren't even impact in the RS. At least we got impact from Hayes in the RS.
Hayes is better than any role playing starting 5 we've had in the last few years. Since we have his early bird rights and he showed in the RS at least he can be a quality starter, we absolutely should keep him as a depth piece.
Rudy went off because the pit bull known as Jaxson did not play his average minutes (7.5 pg) in the series.
Rudy played about 39 minutes, maybe we should have given Jax
a chance out there. I mean Rudy did destroyed the small ball
team, why not give Jax a shot? What was there to loose
we didn't already loose?
If any of those rebounds that Rudy got off a Minnesota miss while the Lakera had the lead had been gotten by Jax or tapped out to a teammate by Jax, the outcome of the game could have been swayed.
As much as I hate the Celtics their Coach says it's always about the little things that add up. And JJ ignoring the rebounding deficit and keeping Hayes out is what caught up.
Rudy went off because the pit bull known as Jaxson did not play his average minutes (7.5 pg) in the series.
Rudy played about 39 minutes, maybe we should have given Jax
a chance out there. I mean Rudy did destroyed the small ball
team, why not give Jax a shot? What was there to loose
we didn't already loose?
If any of those rebounds that Rudy got off a Minnesota miss while the Lakera had the lead had been gotten by Jax or tapped out to a teammate by Jax, the outcome of the game could have been swayed.
As much as I hate the Celtics their Coach says it's always about the little things that add up. And JJ ignoring the rebounding deficit and keeping Hayes out is what caught up.
No reason JJ couldn't have played him after he saw Rudy having a field day. Maxi Kleiber? Come on! Would it have mattered? Probanly not but the rationale here sucks
Yep. I mean, are we going to get a better player via the vet min?
We have his early bird rights, he seems like at least a solid starter in injury situations. Why not have some depth at the 5?
The real issue may be the tax. Once the team upgrades for a starting 5, uses the TP-MLE then what's their situation? How many more dollars can they add to Hayes' salary. He ain't coming back for a vet min.
I think any deal within 5-7M is solid. You can't let him walk as he's shown he can start in the RS and give you quality for short periods.
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 8:19 am Post subject:
If you bench me in the playoffs, I’m not coming back. Best believe he’s going to be on a team like the Warriors or Clippers. Lot of people think he going to sign a vet min with us, but I don’t see it happening. JJ literally pulled him within 4 min in GM4. He gave you 2/2/1 and was +1 and Lakers were up. He got into early foul trouble, but to not play him at all rest of the game is really outrageous. Then to not play him at all in game 5? Beyond stupid. Bro ain’t gonna sign back with us.
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