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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:49 am    Post subject:

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We didn’t apply for a Wood DPE, which would have been valued at 1.52m and does not prorate down like other exceptions do. You can only for one if your med staff believes and can prove that it is not likely that can return by June 15th of that season.

If that’s the case, it’s possible the reason we did not apply for one earlier in the season is cause he was projected to likely return well before that June 15th date.

Does the DPE even matter considering we had our tMLE? Seems like the issue was being close to the 2nd apron so DPE or otherwise would not be useful
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:02 am    Post subject:

^Currently, we are 1.62m (~900k after the official Len signing takes place) away from the hardcap, so hypothetically, we wouldn’t have needed to dip into a prorated MLE if we had a DPE. We had till Jan 15 to apply for one if a better candidate than Wood did not present themselves (@DrL).

The only benefit really is that a DPE doesn’t prorate down, so technically if we wait till the last day of the season to sign a player, it would have been that full 1.52m Wood DPE compared to 30k (via tpMLE) or 12k (via vet min; up to an additional 7k paid in difference by league based on tenure).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:24 am    Post subject:

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Bye C Wood

We hardly knew ya


Seriously. Between Ham's sporadic minutes last season and the injuries this season we never really got to see what he could bring.

I read earlier it was Reddish that was getting waived.


Which is why if you were going to waive him for anyone, it shouldn't be Alex 'been a garbage time player for the last 3 years' Len..

Luka and Christian also had chemistry...



Alex Len isn't better than this.


We have no use for a player that won't be able to play this year.


If that’s the case…Wood is a player that won’t be able to play this year…then I agree it makes sense to dump Wood. Len however is a useless addition, we have no use for him either. He is as unlikely to contribute on the active roster this year as Wood is to contribute being out on the injury report. Jemison or Koloko can probably give everything Len could and also allow for the continued wait on Wood.

I don’t think it’s a good thing to add Len under almost any circumstance and especially not worth it to waive a player to do so. If they found out Wood isn’t coming back then Waive him but not for Len, maybe Theis, or Bamba, even one of the GLeaugers would probably be better. I hate to be so down on Len, hope he proves me wrong, just take a look at his career tho, it’s what it looks like.
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anth2000 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
KingKobe20 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
eureca wrote:
Christian Wood replied to someone on twitter and said
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@Chriswood_5
Progressing.. I’ll be back soon .
this has that AD saying he was ok after the first game with Dallas vibes...
AD just trying to win one more and I could see him going on permanent chill mode. DPOY would be the last trophy he’d want

CWood never put together a long stretch of good health. Unfortunately , this could be it for him
Never liked his attitude and to not be available for even one game this season... and he hasn't played a game in a year?

Come on... short of an ACL tear there's no excuse if you're a pro.

Buh BYE Wood!
So its his fault he needed surgery...well what did you want him to do? lol
I mean, not his fault. He did have surgery last March and then a second surgery in September, 7 months later. I just don't know why it took 7 months to know the first surgery sucked. I feel he has a bad knee that may never be the same again....

But wasting a roster spot when its clear he's not coming back is why we needed to waive him for Len.
Vando had two surgeries and provided updates while nobody knows where CWood is at in his recovery.

Has anybody noticed if CWood has been on the bench?

Since Cam is healthy - maybe he will have one “Lonnie Walker” moment in the playoffs - and CWood is not playing this season. If he does comeback late this season, he will have a lot of rust and not effective.

Since Len is replacing a player that won’t play this season, this was a no-brainer move
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:29 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
KingKobe20 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
eureca wrote:
Christian Wood replied to someone on twitter and said
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@Chriswood_5
Progressing.. I’ll be back soon .
this has that AD saying he was ok after the first game with Dallas vibes...
AD just trying to win one more and I could see him going on permanent chill mode. DPOY would be the last trophy he’d want

CWood never put together a long stretch of good health. Unfortunately , this could be it for him
Never liked his attitude and to not be available for even one game this season... and he hasn't played a game in a year?

Come on... short of an ACL tear there's no excuse if you're a pro.

Buh BYE Wood!
So its his fault he needed surgery...well what did you want him to do? lol
I mean, not his fault. He did have surgery last March and then a second surgery in September, 7 months later. I just don't know why it took 7 months to know the first surgery sucked. I feel he has a bad knee that may never be the same again....

But wasting a roster spot when its clear he's not coming back is why we needed to waive him for Len.
Vando had two surgeries and provided updates while nobody knows where CWood is at in his recovery.

Has anybody noticed if CWood has been on the bench?

Since Cam is healthy - maybe he will have one “Lonnie Walker” moment in the playoffs - and CWood is not playing this season. If he does comeback late this season, he will have a lot of rust and not effective.

Since Len is replacing a player that won’t play this season, this was a no-brainer move


Strangely enough, I saw Wood behind the bench during the Pacers game. It’s the first time I can remember seeing him in what seems like forever. He was interacting with the teammates and so I got the impression things were going good. If the team found out he’s not coming back then dump him, I get that, I just see no value…with Jemison/Koloko able to be added from the 2way…in adding Len.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:31 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
KingKobe20 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
eureca wrote:
Christian Wood replied to someone on twitter and said
Quote:
@Chriswood_5
Progressing.. I’ll be back soon .
this has that AD saying he was ok after the first game with Dallas vibes...
AD just trying to win one more and I could see him going on permanent chill mode. DPOY would be the last trophy he’d want

CWood never put together a long stretch of good health. Unfortunately , this could be it for him
Never liked his attitude and to not be available for even one game this season... and he hasn't played a game in a year?

Come on... short of an ACL tear there's no excuse if you're a pro.

Buh BYE Wood!
So its his fault he needed surgery...well what did you want him to do? lol
I mean, not his fault. He did have surgery last March and then a second surgery in September, 7 months later. I just don't know why it took 7 months to know the first surgery sucked. I feel he has a bad knee that may never be the same again....

But wasting a roster spot when its clear he's not coming back is why we needed to waive him for Len.
Vando had two surgeries and provided updates while nobody knows where CWood is at in his recovery.

Has anybody noticed if CWood has been on the bench?

Since Cam is healthy - maybe he will have one “Lonnie Walker” moment in the playoffs - and CWood is not playing this season. If he does comeback late this season, he will have a lot of rust and not effective.

Since Len is replacing a player that won’t play this season, this was a no-brainer move


Yes. I've seen CWood on the bench plenty of times this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:20 pm    Post subject:

Christian appears to POSSIBLY be on the way back. Cut Len and pick him up?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:43 pm    Post subject:

Jenn wrote:
Christian appears to POSSIBLY be on the way back. Cut Len and pick him up?


Can he even come back to the team? I think there's a rule where a player can't return to the same team that trades/waive him for 1 year/season(?).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:59 pm    Post subject:

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Christian appears to POSSIBLY be on the way back. Cut Len and pick him up?


Can he even come back to the team? I think there's a rule where a player can't return to the same team that trades/waive him for 1 year/season(?).


Just trades. And even then there is a loophole to that.

Dennis for instance went from Brooklyn to Warriors. Then from warriors around the world to the pistons. But if they pistons cut him, he could sign with the nets again since they were not the team to trade him.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:06 pm    Post subject:

Kblo247! wrote:
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Jenn wrote:
Christian appears to POSSIBLY be on the way back. Cut Len and pick him up?


Can he even come back to the team? I think there's a rule where a player can't return to the same team that trades/waive him for 1 year/season(?).


Just trades. And even then there is a loophole to that.

Dennis for instance went from Brooklyn to Warriors. Then from warriors around the world to the pistons. But if they pistons cut him, he could sign with the nets again since they were not the team to trade him.


Ah that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:11 am    Post subject:

This guy could have helped big time in this series.

Really needed a rebounder out there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2025 8:21 am    Post subject:

He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:04 pm    Post subject:

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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


I mean no other teams signed him... I don't think he has fully recovered. So don't understand this post.
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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


I mean no other teams signed him... I don't think he has fully recovered. So don't understand this post.


Oh yea, you understand the post, denial doesn’t get you off that easily lol! 😂

Basically what was tired didn’t work, Alex Len, so perhaps something else should have been tried. Wood may not have made a difference, he recovered too late to be added by another team but he did recover and perhaps he could have reintegrated into an existing situation where he had been familiar such that perhaps it would have made a difference.

Disagree or agree, I get that, but there’s nothing to be confused about to block understanding. Len was so washed and useless that the team should have gambled on Wood possibly not being as washed or useless as Len.
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Hanging from Rafters wrote:
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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


I mean no other teams signed him... I don't think he has fully recovered. So don't understand this post.


Oh yea, you understand the post, denial doesn’t get you off that easily. lol! Basically what was tired didn’t work, Alex Len, so perhaps something else should have been tried. Wood may not have made a difference, he recovered too late to be added by another team but he did recover and perhaps he could have reintegrated into an existing situation where he had been familiar, and perhaps made a difference. Disagree or agree, I get that, but there’s nothing to be confused about to block understanding.


I just really don't think Woods has recovered at all... But hey go off about Woods the difference maker.

In that case, we could have used Cam Reddish to guard Ant.


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miggz23 wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


I mean no other teams signed him... I don't think he has fully recovered. So don't understand this post.


Oh yea, you understand the post, denial doesn’t get you off that easily. lol! Basically what was tired didn’t work, Alex Len, so perhaps something else should have been tried. Wood may not have made a difference, he recovered too late to be added by another team but he did recover and perhaps he could have reintegrated into an existing situation where he had been familiar, and perhaps made a difference. Disagree or agree, I get that, but there’s nothing to be confused about to block understanding.


I just really don't think Woods has recovered at all... But hey go of about Woods the difference maker.


Now that makes sense

See, I knew would you understand! 😂

Now back to the point, gambling on Wood…and perhaps losing the gamble…is thought to possibly have been a better gamble than gambling on Len since the gamble on Len definitely was a loss. Maybe Wood didn’t recover, maybe he did, either way the worse case of gambling on Wood would have not been worse than the complete uselessness of Len. There were reports that he recovered but I don’t think it would have made a difference anyway, hey, maybe it would have. But at least now we understand. 😅
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2025 4:07 pm    Post subject:

CW was trash- JKidd couldnt get rid of him fast enough prior to us.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 6:36 am    Post subject:

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CW was trash- JKidd couldnt get rid of him fast enough prior to us.


How? How you know? You see him play?
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CW was trash- JKidd couldnt get rid of him fast enough prior to us.


How? How you know? You see him play?

Yes I’ve seen him play

Yes iirc Zach Lowe wrote about Kidd part
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 11:57 am    Post subject:

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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


They didn’t gamble on Kleber, he was salary needed to make the trade. Len isn’t good but at least he can play if you need him to.
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Hanging from Rafters wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
MJST wrote:
He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


I mean no other teams signed him... I don't think he has fully recovered. So don't understand this post.


Oh yea, you understand the post, denial doesn’t get you off that easily. lol! Basically what was tired didn’t work, Alex Len, so perhaps something else should have been tried. Wood may not have made a difference, he recovered too late to be added by another team but he did recover and perhaps he could have reintegrated into an existing situation where he had been familiar, and perhaps made a difference. Disagree or agree, I get that, but there’s nothing to be confused about to block understanding.


I just really don't think Woods has recovered at all... But hey go of about Woods the difference maker.


Now that makes sense

See, I knew would you understand! 😂

Now back to the point, gambling on Wood…and perhaps losing the gamble…is thought to possibly have been a better gamble than gambling on Len since the gamble on Len definitely was a loss. Maybe Wood didn’t recover, maybe he did, either way the worse case of gambling on Wood would have not been worse than the complete uselessness of Len. There were reports that he recovered but I don’t think it would have made a difference anyway, hey, maybe it would have. But at least now we understand. 😅


Gambling on Woods for 2 seasons was a losing gamble.
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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


They didn’t gamble on Kleber, he was salary needed to make the trade. Len isn’t good but at least he can play if you need him to.


I'm talking about that if you were gambling on waiting on Kleber to play him in the Playoffs when he hadn't even played 5 on 5 then you Kay as well have waited on Woods recovery as opposed to removing him for Len whom was useless and didn't even play at all so you basically got rid of Wood for nothing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2025 6:41 am    Post subject:

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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


He was never going to play this season
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He was worth gambling on more than Kleber and letting him go for freaking Alex Len was a monumental stupid move.


He was never going to play this season


Maybe you’re right, maybe not but…JJ played Maxi Kleber in his 1st game back after the injury kept him out 3 months, over Len…Len proved for sure he was never going to play in the post season whereas there still was a chance that Wood might have played had he still been on the team. The opposing center, that for the regular season averaged 12/11, abused the Lakers for 27/24 yet Len still got DNP-CD. It is just speculation to say that Wood wouldn’t have played, but even if he would not have, Wood was still worth gambling on more than Len since Len proved he was a no-go but Wood was a possibility. I’m not saying it would have made a difference…we don’t know for sure, it’s just speculation…but the better gamble because of the possibility was on Wood over Len since Len definitely ended up not playing and showed that he was gonna be useless almost immediately after being added to the team.
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