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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:26 am Post subject:
Dr. Laker wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
FWIW, Byron's 1st wife was a good church girl. She might not have been performing the particular service that Byron wanted.
To try and force a random girl in a janitor's closet, however, is sick.
That's a stretch. Because a person is a good church person doesn't mean they will or will not do certain things.
If I read your posts' implication correctly, you have tried and convicted Byron using a media story as evidence. Quoting a Chris Rock line from the movie Head of State, That Ain't Right.
I'm using Byron's statement as evidence:
"Our client is devastated by this complaint, a basketball event that took place in 1987," Bauermeister wrote in the statement. "Our client believed the plaintiff to be over 18 and had no idea she would claim otherwise until 35 years later. He respects girls and women, and the claims have blindsided him and his family."
Byron's defense is that he believed she was 18, which puts the burden on him to prove that she lied to him about her age. Notice his statement doesn't claim she lied about her age, which would be a stretch since he was in her high school at the time of the incident.
Age is not a concern of mine. My last post reveals my concern. Our system says one is innocent until proven guilty. I get the impression you've judged him already without all the facts.
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Age isn't a concern of mine. What is, is the unfolding of events. If he's found guilty of forcing her into a janitor's closet and trying to force her to copulate orally, he should face the full force of the law. If he's found innocent, the stigma will follow him. This is a lose, lose for Byron.
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Believed she was "over 18"? As a student high school?
I mean I am not defending him but you can graduate at 18 or 19 if your birthday is during certain months or if you repeat a grade right? its just very unlikely.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 5:00 pm Post subject:
dj1337 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Believed she was "over 18"? As a student high school?
I mean I am not defending him but you can graduate at 18 or 19 if your birthday is during certain months or if you repeat a grade right? its just very unlikely.
Even if she was 18-19 she is in HIGH SCHOOL and he is an NBA player. Predatory dude.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 5:34 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
FWIW, Byron's 1st wife was a good church girl. She might not have been performing the particular service that Byron wanted.
To try and force a random girl in a janitor's closet, however, is sick.
That's a stretch. Because a person is a good church person doesn't mean they will or will not do certain things.
If I read your posts' implication correctly, you have tried and convicted Byron using a media story as evidence. Quoting a Chris Rock line from the movie Head of State, That Ain't Right.
I'm using Byron's statement as evidence:
"Our client is devastated by this complaint, a basketball event that took place in 1987," Bauermeister wrote in the statement. "Our client believed the plaintiff to be over 18 and had no idea she would claim otherwise until 35 years later. He respects girls and women, and the claims have blindsided him and his family."
Byron's defense is that he believed she was 18, which puts the burden on him to prove that she lied to him about her age. Notice his statement doesn't claim she lied about her age, which would be a stretch since he was in her high school at the time of the incident.
Age is not a concern of mine. My last post reveals my concern. Our system says one is innocent until proven guilty. I get the impression you've judged him already without all the facts.
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Age isn't a concern of mine. What is, is the unfolding of events. If he's found guilty of forcing her into a janitor's closet and trying to force her to copulate orally, he should face the full force of the law. If he's found innocent, the stigma will follow him. This is a lose, lose for Byron.
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He was also doing something in the official capacity as an NBA player if not a Laker - I forget what exactly the news story said about why these players were at the school. So it's inappropriate behavior in the workplace at the very least. Were you running off smexing up with your coworkers in the closet during work activities? I mean come on now he admitted that this happened so it's not a question of whether or not it took place. And if it took place it was entirely inappropriate no matter how you try to spin it. (Did Donovan Mitchell just high five air right now after that free-throw? that was classic lol)
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 5:43 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Age isn't a concern of mine. What is, is the unfolding of events. If he's found guilty of forcing her into a janitor's closet and trying to force her to copulate orally, he should face the full force of the law. If he's found innocent, the stigma will follow him. This is a lose, lose for Byron.
You're not concerned about an adult male having sex with a 15 year old girl at her high school? Why not?!
Is it because he's a famous NBA player that won titles for the team that you root for?
What if he was an adult janitor at the school? Or a teacher at the school?
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 7:08 pm Post subject:
strong9 wrote:
dj1337 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Believed she was "over 18"? As a student high school?
I mean I am not defending him but you can graduate at 18 or 19 if your birthday is during certain months or if you repeat a grade right? its just very unlikely.
Even if she was 18-19 she is in HIGH SCHOOL and he is an NBA player. Predatory dude.
Even putting technical legality aside, he’s there at a school as a Lakers ambassador and he uses it as an opportunity to have sex with a student in a janitor’s closet? It’s just downright weird. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 7:10 pm Post subject:
I wasn’t alive when Byron played for the Lakers. Who is a more recent Lakers that had status equivalent to Byron with fans? Derek Fisher? Trevor Ariza? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
I wasn’t alive when Byron played for the Lakers. Who is a more recent Lakers that had status equivalent to Byron with fans? Derek Fisher? Trevor Ariza?
Austin Reaves. After 86-87, he was the 2nd or 3rd best player for a couple of seasons. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 7:50 pm Post subject:
Dr. Laker wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
I wasn’t alive when Byron played for the Lakers. Who is a more recent Lakers that had status equivalent to Byron with fans? Derek Fisher? Trevor Ariza?
Austin Reaves. After 86-87, he was the 2nd or 3rd best player for a couple of seasons.
Never second. Third at most when Kareem was over the hill. Magic and Worthy was always 1 and 2. _________________ "The game is MORE than just one player. Without Luka, DFS would have been more than enough to replace him based on what we've seen," LakersFever714, the greatest casual of all time.
Byron led the '87-88 team in scoring, at nearly 22 per game. For the era he was a good three point shooter, once led the league in three point percentage.
Believed she was "over 18"? As a student high school?
I was very young in the 80’s but based on my memory of things, high school girls being with older guys was a regular thing on tv shows and stuff. And it didn’t really cause outrage when people said creepy stuff about waiting for the day the Olsen twins turned 18. All of the Karl Malone stuff seemed to be largely ignored too.
It seems like it was more recent when society rightfully started frowning on that stuff more. I think it’s more likely that he simply didn’t care that she was under 18.
^ Not even worth responding to that besides that the fact that you think sleeping with a child should be less weird than sleeping with an adult who has a sex/gender identity you are not interested in... you've got issues. Let consenting adults do what they want to do
Insane to see someone say "Age is not a concern of mine" while trying to present their position as some considered take. Madness. _________________ "I got Wheaties!"
^ Not even worth responding to that besides that the fact that you think sleeping with a child should be less weird than sleeping with an adult who has a sex/gender identity you are not interested in... you've got issues. Let consenting adults do what they want to do
I don't have a problem with people who want to be trans. People should be happy. All I said is one thing seems more natural than the other.
One thing happened from the dawn of man until the last few decades, the other just began a few decades ago.
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this. Trans people have always existed, and trying to equate an adult being trans and another adult consenting to sex with someone whom is trans being accepted, whilst asking sympathy for the person deemed a 'sicko' for dating a minor, is not the hill you want to stand on. And I'll leave it at that.
dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
MJST wrote:
Believed she was "over 18"? As a student high school?
Have you ever seen those pedos getting caught on instagram? The first thing they always say is, “I thought she was 18”.
That's always been essentially the joke in every TV series and every movie X_X In this scenario at a darn high school it's even less likely to believe. Because he even says he thought she was 'over 18' as a student. I don't think his or his lawyer's statement helped any. Byron always been a Coach that has been judgemental of young players doing stupid stuff on a far lesser scale, from New Jersey to New Orleans to LA, and then you see the stuff he got down to at 26 _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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I was very young in the 80’s but based on my memory of things, high school girls being with older guys was a regular thing on tv shows and stuff. And it didn’t really cause outrage when people said creepy stuff about waiting for the day the Olsen twins turned 18. All of the Karl Malone stuff seemed to be largely ignored too.
