LeBron on the media narratives following the Lakers losing to the Timberwolves:
āIāve definitely learned over the years that teams win championships. Alwaysā¦ I donāt lose sleep over that like, āF***, how did me and Luka lose?ā Well, thereās 8 other guys on the floor.ā
The ā . . . ā in your quote is doing a lot of work. It skips over the context. And heās pretty clearly praising the Wolves - not throwing dudes under the bus.
No - itās not āliterallyā his quote. He says things where those ellipses are. Watch the video. Also way not to include the question by Nash he was responding to or any of the context of the conversation. You should work for First Take.
Iām also not sure what the relevance of an old video from back in 2018 has to a totally different situation and different team.
Looking at some clips from his podcast with Nash, sure doesnāt sound like heās done being a Laker. Think heās opting in. Hopefully they donāt do a 1+1. The only reason I donāt wanna do a 1+1 I feel we may be able to clear significant cap next season to add some quality free agents.
Total contracts for Summer 2026, right now: $76.5, Cap Max $170, Cap Space $93.5
Doncic $49
AR $15
Vando $12.5
Now, let's say, we pick up Dalton's $4.2 and extend Rui for something like $20 and DFS for $17 and 8 min holds ~$10. Contracts: $117.7 Cap Space $43.3
and maybe whoever our tpMLE this summer is, if it is more than a 1 year deal
But yeah, once Bron leaves and Gabe and Maxi come off, lots of cap space in Summer 2026
Expect that capspace to drop $25-$40m.
Luka and AR most likely opt out of those deals and sign for a new bigger contract... Unless they just sign an extension.
LeBron on the media narratives following the Lakers losing to the Timberwolves:
āIāve definitely learned over the years that teams win championships. Alwaysā¦ I donāt lose sleep over that like, āF***, how did me and Luka lose?ā Well, thereās 8 other guys on the floor.ā
The ā . . . ā in your quote is doing a lot of work. It skips over the context. And heās pretty clearly praising the Wolves - not throwing dudes under the bus.
Context and halflife
I donāt get it.
I mean, if Lebron isnāt your cup of tea, fineā¦but damn why be active in a Lebron thread and post about him so much then? I couldnāt stand Kuzma as a laker and probably only went into a kuzma thread a couple of times cuz I didnāt want to read/see anything that had to do with him as much as possible.
LeBron on the media narratives following the Lakers losing to the Timberwolves:
āIāve definitely learned over the years that teams win championships. Alwaysā¦ I donāt lose sleep over that like, āF***, how did me and Luka lose?ā Well, thereās 8 other guys on the floor.ā
The ā . . . ā in your quote is doing a lot of work. It skips over the context. And heās pretty clearly praising the Wolves - not throwing dudes under the bus.
No - itās not āliterallyā his quote. He says things where those ellipses are. Watch the video. Also way not to include the question by Nash he was responding to or any of the context of the conversation. You should work for First Take.
Iām also not sure what the relevance of an old video from back in 2018 has to a totally different situation and different team.
in context:https://x.com/WITNESSKJ/status/1920532871971795206-
-Its team when he loses- Its him when he wins-
When they beat GSW- That win made me the goat- yes he said that on his barber show.
-when they lost to mavs in finals- āWe (front office) didnāt fill out the complimentary guys ENOUGH. We had Rio we had Udonis. But we didnāt have ENOUGH. Enough complimentary guys to make it all work.ā - mind you they had wade and bosh along with solid cast - even joked that dirk wasn't sick.
Two weeks ago, his agent on Pat Macafee, said Miami wasn't a big threeāSaid Bosh didn't make them a big three.
So now the "team guy" has an opportunity to take less money ( maybe he will) and be part of the solution vs just being a guy. As dave McMenamin recently said he has had an "underwhelming career" as a laker.
Why celebrate a guy who has been underwhelming? _________________ Trade Bronny East.
How do you finish -53 on a 50-win team?
This game today is a little bit more soft, to call anybody a GOAT nowadays is disrespectful to ... the awards and accolades [MJI and Kobe have won.
LeBron doing all this talking about "There's 8 other players out there(on the team)" and "This MCL injury is unlike anything I've ever had, it's hard to even get out of bed" but he's gonna walk into the negotiating room still asking for 50 million a year?
He doesnāt need to, he can just opt in
If he opts in doesn't he lose his No Trade Clause
No he has an actual no trade clause like Beal. Itās not a because I signed a 1+1 like someone like Dlo could have had had Pelinka not made him sign those rights away when they negotiated. Bron has the real ntc and it travels like Beal
It's good if LeBron is playing hardball, because maybe Jeanie will finally wake up from her slumber and move on.
He deserves his farewell tour for what he's done for the league.
But if he agrees to take lower salary, then we owe him, and then the saga could drag on for years. (We draft Bryce and then have old Bron for three or four years instead of one)
Let him opt in. Let's try to get a center without gutting the team and we can still have a tiny shot at the title next season.
But if we keep doing multi year extensions we are going to blow Luka's window also.
Maybe Luka wants to keep Bron for three or four years, which would complicate things considerably, but he has to understand you can't have a fat and old star taking up all the salary cap.
If only Bron was young, then those two could really do damage.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 145794 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 12:57 pm Post subject:
BILBJH wrote:
It's good if LeBron is playing hardball, because maybe Jeanie will finally wake up from her slumber and move on.
He deserves his farewell tour for what he's done for the league.
But if he agrees to take lower salary, then we owe him, and then the saga could drag on for years. (We draft Bryce and then have old Bron for three or four years instead of one)
Let him opt in. Let's try to get a center without gutting the team and we can still have a tiny shot at the title next season.
But if we keep doing multi year extensions we are going to blow Luka's window also.
Maybe Luka wants to keep Bron for three or four years, which would complicate things considerably, but he has to understand you can't have a fat and old star taking up all the salary cap.
If only Bron was young, then those two could really do damage.
Luka isnāt old _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
It's good if LeBron is playing hardball, because maybe Jeanie will finally wake up from her slumber and move on.
He deserves his farewell tour for what he's done for the league.
But if he agrees to take lower salary, then we owe him, and then the saga could drag on for years. (We draft Bryce and then have old Bron for three or four years instead of one)
Let him opt in. Let's try to get a center without gutting the team and we can still have a tiny shot at the title next season.
But if we keep doing multi year extensions we are going to blow Luka's window also.
Maybe Luka wants to keep Bron for three or four years, which would complicate things considerably, but he has to understand you can't have a fat and old star taking up all the salary cap.
If only Bron was young, then those two could really do damage.
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 24941 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 2:05 pm Post subject:
venturalakersfan wrote:
BILBJH wrote:
It's good if LeBron is playing hardball, because maybe Jeanie will finally wake up from her slumber and move on.
He deserves his farewell tour for what he's done for the league.
But if he agrees to take lower salary, then we owe him, and then the saga could drag on for years. (We draft Bryce and then have old Bron for three or four years instead of one)
Let him opt in. Let's try to get a center without gutting the team and we can still have a tiny shot at the title next season.
But if we keep doing multi year extensions we are going to blow Luka's window also.
Maybe Luka wants to keep Bron for three or four years, which would complicate things considerably, but he has to understand you can't have a fat and old star taking up all the salary cap.
If only Bron was young, then those two could really do damage.
Luka isnāt old
Not everyone will have Bron, KD, Steph longevity... His window now is probably 26 to 32. After a few years here, we'll know more about what's beyond 32 depending on what we see in terms of dedication. I'm hoping and optimistic he shuts everyone up in the next few years. People are just chompin at the bit for him to fail. Supposed Laker "fans" around here too. A minority of our fanbase are pretty pathetic. _________________ "The game is MORE than just one player. Without Luka, DFS would have been more than enough to replace him based on what we've seen," LakersFever714, the greatest casual of all time.
LeBron on the media narratives following the Lakers losing to the Timberwolves:
āIāve definitely learned over the years that teams win championships. Alwaysā¦ I donāt lose sleep over that like, āF***, how did me and Luka lose?ā Well, thereās 8 other guys on the floor.ā
The ā . . . ā in your quote is doing a lot of work. It skips over the context. And heās pretty clearly praising the Wolves - not throwing dudes under the bus.
No - itās not āliterallyā his quote. He says things where those ellipses are. Watch the video. Also way not to include the question by Nash he was responding to or any of the context of the conversation. You should work for First Take.
Iām also not sure what the relevance of an old video from back in 2018 has to a totally different situation and different team.
in context:https://x.com/WITNESSKJ/status/1920532871971795206-
-Its team when he loses- Its him when he wins-
When they beat GSW- That win made me the goat- yes he said that on his barber show.
-when they lost to mavs in finals- āWe (front office) didnāt fill out the complimentary guys ENOUGH. We had Rio we had Udonis. But we didnāt have ENOUGH. Enough complimentary guys to make it all work.ā - mind you they had wade and bosh along with solid cast - even joked that dirk wasn't sick.
Two weeks ago, his agent on Pat Macafee, said Miami wasn't a big threeāSaid Bosh didn't make them a big three.
So now the "team guy" has an opportunity to take less money ( maybe he will) and be part of the solution vs just being a guy. As dave McMenamin recently said he has had an "underwhelming career" as a laker.
Why celebrate a guy who has been underwhelming?
According to TMG 40 YO lebron is better than Donovan Mitchell?
It's good if LeBron is playing hardball, because maybe Jeanie will finally wake up from her slumber and move on.
He deserves his farewell tour for what he's done for the league.
But if he agrees to take lower salary, then we owe him, and then the saga could drag on for years. (We draft Bryce and then have old Bron for three or four years instead of one)
Let him opt in. Let's try to get a center without gutting the team and we can still have a tiny shot at the title next season.
But if we keep doing multi year extensions we are going to blow Luka's window also.
Maybe Luka wants to keep Bron for three or four years, which would complicate things considerably, but he has to understand you can't have a fat and old star taking up all the salary cap.
If only Bron was young, then those two could really do damage.
Luka isnāt old
The eye test tells me he is.
Perhaps you ought to consider a visit to the optometristā¦
26.9 (@20) (7th in league),
27.5 (@21) (5th in league),
28.6 (@22) (3rd in league),
22.5 (@24) (? in league, out of top 10), and
21.5 (@25) (? in league, out of top 10) .
I don't know why such a drop-off at ages 24 and 25, and I don't think he is getting old, but something is up. _________________ Hey Doge, ever hear of āmeasure twice, cut once?ā It is not cut first and measure later.
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 37959 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -ā„ā„ā„ā„ā„Berkeley, CA
Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 10:50 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
Luka's playoff PER's have been:
26.9 (@20) (7th in league),
27.5 (@21) (5th in league),
28.6 (@22) (3rd in league),
22.5 (@24) (? in league, out of top 10), and
21.5 (@25) (? in league, out of top 10) .
I don't know why such a drop-off at ages 24 and 25, and I don't think he is getting old, but something is up.
Heās an old 26. Lots of mileage from playing professionally since 16. Damage from playing through injuries. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
All I said is we don't have three or four years to f&ck around with Luka's window.
I never said he's old, I said he's fat and you can't win with an old and fat set of stars.
Everyone keeps focusing on shipping out Reaves but ignoring the elephant in the room which is LeBron's age.
I haven't said we can win with Reaves and Luka.
I've said we need a better number two yet everyone acts like getting rid of our third option will solve everything.
All that trading Reaves away for a better defender is trade better defense for worse offense.
So now we become stuck without a number two or a number three in two years.
Do you really think we are going to win without Bron and Reaves and make a run with Luka, Herb Jones, and Yves Missi?
Bron is old and some of you are planning a long term future with him.
If Bron was 30, then yes it makes sense to build a team with Luka, Bron, Herb Jones, Missi.
But he's going to be 41.
You all are going to ship out Austin and Dalton and then be minus two shot creators and one sharp shooter and be more like Houston or Detroit who have plenty of athleticism but only Cade and Fred who can create their own shot.
This team would have been fine if Austin didn't choke. Will he choke again?
Maybe, but this is life in the playoffs, you are always one bad series or game from defining your legacy.
I personally think Austin will bounce back.
Kobe had 6 for 24 game seven we all remember.
Ant had a 6 for 24 game seven as well.
People don't remember these chokes because they won anyway.
Ant just went 0-11 from against us from three but he lucked out because Austin went 2-10 and Luka 2-8
Ant also went cold against the Warriors the first game but Steph's injury bailed him out.
I understand Kobe and Ant are at a higher level than Reaves, they are both number one options, but my point is that you don't chuck out good players because of a bad game or series.
You all wanted to trade everyone for Bam and he's had three horrible series in a row.
Reaves is a good third option. You at least see if you can sign a reasonable extension. If you can't then maybe you move on.
But stop making long term LeBron plans.
He's still a great player but he can't put a team on his back anymore.
We need to plan for life after LeBron which is why I think we should keep Reaves for the time being unless the price becomes ridiculously high.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 145794 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 11:44 am Post subject:
Actually they do have 3-4 years to retool around Luka and it will likely take longer to be title worthy, if they even get there. 1 or 2 years will be trying to plug holes working with $50+ mil of LeBron salary. It will take mortgaging the future and pool of young players and picks, with not a lot to offer. They have to completely rebuild a defense, starting with Luka puts that in a hole. Then there is the CBA, ownership has shown they will spend to a limit for a contender but two home playoff games this offseason hardly bolsters team revenue. So Pelinka will be dealing with LeBronās salary, limited future assets and financial restraints. It can happen but Iāll be surprised if itās less than 4-5 seasons. I hope Iām wrong. Iām tired of rooting for Jokic because no LA teams are playing in the second round. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Looking at some clips from his podcast with Nash, sure doesnāt sound like heās done being a Laker. Think heās opting in. Hopefully they donāt do a 1+1. The only reason I donāt wanna do a 1+1 I feel we may be able to clear significant cap next season to add some quality free agents.
Total contracts for Summer 2026, right now: $76.5, Cap Max $170, Cap Space $93.5
Doncic $49
AR $15
Vando $12.5
Now, let's say, we pick up Dalton's $4.2 and extend Rui for something like $20 and DFS for $17 and 8 min holds ~$10. Contracts: $117.7 Cap Space $43.3
and maybe whoever our tpMLE this summer is, if it is more than a 1 year deal
But yeah, once Bron leaves and Gabe and Maxi come off, lots of cap space in Summer 2026
Expect that capspace to drop $25-$40m.
Luka and AR most likely opt out of those deals and sign for a new bigger contract... Unless they just sign an extension.
I think Luka's contract is a max for his years of service (9 years for 2026-27). So, not sure his summer 2026 number can go up? AR is another matter. Does he take an extension this summer or wait, opt out and sign a new contract? If he opts out, we would face, i think, a 190% cap hold before we sign him (since he is bird rights). I think that means we would see a drop from the hold of ~$14 M. So, i don't think cap space in these circumstances would drop by $25-40 M, but i am no cap expert.
Actually they do have 3-4 years to retool around Luka and it will likely take longer to be title worthy, if they even get there. 1 or 2 years will be trying to plug holes working with $50+ mil of LeBron salary. It will take mortgaging the future and pool of young players and picks, with not a lot to offer. They have to completely rebuild a defense, starting with Luka puts that in a hole. Then there is the CBA, ownership has shown they will spend to a limit for a contender but two home playoff games this offseason hardly bolsters team revenue. So Pelinka will be dealing with LeBronās salary, limited future assets and financial restraints. It can happen but Iāll be surprised if itās less than 4-5 seasons. I hope Iām wrong. Iām tired of rooting for Jokic because no LA teams are playing in the second round.
I consistently advocated for not trading away all our young players and yet we had four or five useful players on our own bench.
Josh Hart, Caruso, Randle, Zubac to name a few.
Let's not add Reaves and Knecht to that pile.
Again I'm happy to trade them for actual stars or difference makers.
If you make lateral moves for defenders then you aren't changing anything which is why I pointed out Houston and Detroit's dilemma.
If we had kept those quality defenders (not Randle, but maybe the others plus KCP) then we wouldn't need to trade Austin for defense because he could do his offense with some cover.
All I said is we don't have three or four years to f&ck around with Luka's window.
I never said he's old, I said he's fat and you can't win with an old and fat set of stars.
Everyone keeps focusing on shipping out Reaves but ignoring the elephant in the room which is LeBron's age.
I haven't said we can win with Reaves and Luka.
I've said we need a better number two yet everyone acts like getting rid of our third option will solve everything.
All that trading Reaves away for a better defender is trade better defense for worse offense.
So now we become stuck without a number two or a number three in two years.
Do you really think we are going to win without Bron and Reaves and make a run with Luka, Herb Jones, and Yves Missi?
Bron is old and some of you are planning a long term future with him.
If Bron was 30, then yes it makes sense to build a team with Luka, Bron, Herb Jones, Missi.
But he's going to be 41.
You all are going to ship out Austin and Dalton and then be minus two shot creators and one sharp shooter and be more like Houston or Detroit who have plenty of athleticism but only Cade and Fred who can create their own shot.
This team would have been fine if Austin didn't choke. Will he choke again?
Maybe, but this is life in the playoffs, you are always one bad series or game from defining your legacy.
I personally think Austin will bounce back.
Kobe had 6 for 24 game seven we all remember.
Ant had a 6 for 24 game seven as well.
People don't remember these chokes because they won anyway.
Ant just went 0-11 from against us from three but he lucked out because Austin went 2-10 and Luka 2-8
Ant also went cold against the Warriors the first game but Steph's injury bailed him out.
I understand Kobe and Ant are at a higher level than Reaves, they are both number one options, but my point is that you don't chuck out good players because of a bad game or series.
You all wanted to trade everyone for Bam and he's had three horrible series in a row.
Reaves is a good third option. You at least see if you can sign a reasonable extension. If you can't then maybe you move on.
But stop making long term LeBron plans.
He's still a great player but he can't put a team on his back anymore.
We need to plan for life after LeBron which is why I think we should keep Reaves for the time being unless the price becomes ridiculously high.
If Reaves wants a big contract which im sure he will....It wont be with the lakers. If it's reported that he opts out and can land a deal that lets him make 42M a year thats ridiculous. In no way should Rob pay that sum unless Reaves takes MAJOR strides and damn near becomes a legit #2
He wont ever become a #2 since his physique and overall athleticism wont let him.
Anybody who thinks Lebron was the problem in the playoffs is purely agenda driven. We know who they are since they all regurgitate the same old stuff for about 2 weeks now.
But he's 40 and doesn't fit Lukas timeline thats true. But we wont ever get a haul for him due to his age so im good with him playing with Luka because there isn't a 1 for 1 trade that makes us better.
All I said is we don't have three or four years to f&ck around with Luka's window.
I never said he's old, I said he's fat and you can't win with an old and fat set of stars.
Everyone keeps focusing on shipping out Reaves but ignoring the elephant in the room which is LeBron's age.
I haven't said we can win with Reaves and Luka.
I've said we need a better number two yet everyone acts like getting rid of our third option will solve everything.
All that trading Reaves away for a better defender is trade better defense for worse offense.
So now we become stuck without a number two or a number three in two years.
Do you really think we are going to win without Bron and Reaves and make a run with Luka, Herb Jones, and Yves Missi?
Bron is old and some of you are planning a long term future with him.
If Bron was 30, then yes it makes sense to build a team with Luka, Bron, Herb Jones, Missi.
But he's going to be 41.
You all are going to ship out Austin and Dalton and then be minus two shot creators and one sharp shooter and be more like Houston or Detroit who have plenty of athleticism but only Cade and Fred who can create their own shot.
This team would have been fine if Austin didn't choke. Will he choke again?
Maybe, but this is life in the playoffs, you are always one bad series or game from defining your legacy.
I personally think Austin will bounce back.
Kobe had 6 for 24 game seven we all remember.
Ant had a 6 for 24 game seven as well.
People don't remember these chokes because they won anyway.
Ant just went 0-11 from against us from three but he lucked out because Austin went 2-10 and Luka 2-8
Ant also went cold against the Warriors the first game but Steph's injury bailed him out.
I understand Kobe and Ant are at a higher level than Reaves, they are both number one options, but my point is that you don't chuck out good players because of a bad game or series.
You all wanted to trade everyone for Bam and he's had three horrible series in a row.
Reaves is a good third option. You at least see if you can sign a reasonable extension. If you can't then maybe you move on.
But stop making long term LeBron plans.
He's still a great player but he can't put a team on his back anymore.
We need to plan for life after LeBron which is why I think we should keep Reaves for the time being unless the price becomes ridiculously high.
If Reaves wants a big contract which im sure he will....It wont be with the lakers. If it's reported that he opts out and can land a deal that lets him make 42M a year thats ridiculous. In no way should Rob pay that sum unless Reaves takes MAJOR strides and damn near becomes a legit #2
He wont ever become a #2 since his physique and overall athleticism wont let him.
If Houston or Detroit paid him, we'd all be in trouble.
I understand his shortcomings and I don't disagree.
I feel like you guys underestimate his scoring and playmaking.
When he doesn't score, he's pretty useless, but he does most of the time and if it's for another good team, we will regret it.
All I said is we don't have three or four years to f&ck around with Luka's window.
I never said he's old, I said he's fat and you can't win with an old and fat set of stars.
Everyone keeps focusing on shipping out Reaves but ignoring the elephant in the room which is LeBron's age.
I haven't said we can win with Reaves and Luka.
I've said we need a better number two yet everyone acts like getting rid of our third option will solve everything.
All that trading Reaves away for a better defender is trade better defense for worse offense.
So now we become stuck without a number two or a number three in two years.
Do you really think we are going to win without Bron and Reaves and make a run with Luka, Herb Jones, and Yves Missi?
Bron is old and some of you are planning a long term future with him.
If Bron was 30, then yes it makes sense to build a team with Luka, Bron, Herb Jones, Missi.
But he's going to be 41.
You all are going to ship out Austin and Dalton and then be minus two shot creators and one sharp shooter and be more like Houston or Detroit who have plenty of athleticism but only Cade and Fred who can create their own shot.
This team would have been fine if Austin didn't choke. Will he choke again?
Maybe, but this is life in the playoffs, you are always one bad series or game from defining your legacy.
I personally think Austin will bounce back.
Kobe had 6 for 24 game seven we all remember.
Ant had a 6 for 24 game seven as well.
People don't remember these chokes because they won anyway.
Ant just went 0-11 from against us from three but he lucked out because Austin went 2-10 and Luka 2-8
Ant also went cold against the Warriors the first game but Steph's injury bailed him out.
I understand Kobe and Ant are at a higher level than Reaves, they are both number one options, but my point is that you don't chuck out good players because of a bad game or series.
You all wanted to trade everyone for Bam and he's had three horrible series in a row.
Reaves is a good third option. You at least see if you can sign a reasonable extension. If you can't then maybe you move on.
But stop making long term LeBron plans.
He's still a great player but he can't put a team on his back anymore.
We need to plan for life after LeBron which is why I think we should keep Reaves for the time being unless the price becomes ridiculously high.
If Reaves wants a big contract which im sure he will....It wont be with the lakers. If it's reported that he opts out and can land a deal that lets him make 42M a year thats ridiculous. In no way should Rob pay that sum unless Reaves takes MAJOR strides and damn near becomes a legit #2
He wont ever become a #2 since his physique and overall athleticism wont let him.
If Houston or Detroit paid him, we'd all be in trouble.
I understand his shortcomings and I don't disagree.
I feel like you guys underestimate his scoring and playmaking.
When he doesn't score, he's pretty useless, but he does most of the time and if it's for another good team, we will regret it.
I dont think he's useless if he doesn't score though. Reaves is pretty complete when it comes offense. He can handle,playmake and score. But when post season comes around and physicality is allowed he folds due to his own shortcomings when it comes to physique and athleticism. He cant power through physical play like other guards can.
If you cant even get past a wash wash washed mike conley we've got problems.
In an ideal world he's a sixth man. We dont have that kind of roster though so we're asking a lot of him. Credit to him he's exceeded everyones expectations and balled out in the regular season.
But you cant have a #3 who's a pick and choose mathcup type of player. Not with the roster we have.
I dont think he's useless if he doesn't score though. Reaves is pretty complete when it comes offense. He can handle,playmake and score. But when post season comes around and physicality is allowed he folds due to his own shortcomings when it comes to physique and athleticism. He cant power through physical play like other guards can.
If you cant even get past a wash wash washed mike conley we've got problems.
In an ideal world he's a sixth man. We dont have that kind of roster though so we're asking a lot of him. Credit to him he's exceeded everyones expectations and balled out in the regular season.
But you cant have a #3 who's a pick and choose mathcup type of player. Not with the roster we have.
Of course I know about his playmaking, I misspoke when I said offense as I meant his whole offensive game.
Minny was a bad matchup for him.
He did fine against Denver even with KCP
The difference between myself and others is that I don't think Bron is good for much longer.
I've been wrong for two or three years (about his age) so I can't blame people for ignoring me but this year he really looked older even though his stats were good.
I wouldn't pay Reaves 40 million based on that playoff perfomance but I'd still pay him a lot.
If one of those long defensive teams want to pay him 40 million plus then I suppose you have to let him go, but I think on the right team he's going to come back to haunt us, just like Julius did this year.
If Houston or Detroit paid him, we'd all be in trouble.
I understand his shortcomings and I don't disagree.
I feel like you guys underestimate his scoring and playmaking.
When he doesn't score, he's pretty useless, but he does most of the time and if it's for another good team, we will regret it.
I dont think he's useless if he doesn't score though. Reaves is pretty complete when it comes offense. He can handle,playmake and score. But when post season comes around and physicality is allowed he folds due to his own shortcomings when it comes to physique and athleticism. He cant power through physical play like other guards can.
If you cant even get past a wash wash washed mike conley we've got problems.
In an ideal world he's a sixth man. We dont have that kind of roster though so we're asking a lot of him. Credit to him he's exceeded everyones expectations and balled out in the regular season.
But you cant have a #3 who's a pick and choose mathcup type of player. Not with the roster we have.
Pretty much agree with this. In an alternate universe where we sent out Knecht instead of Christie, you could imagine starting Christie and having Reaves basically play 28-32 mpg off the bench. Then all you need is a real starting C and you have a contender.
But the Lakers lack the assets to revamp their roster in this way. Barring getting a "free" asset via a LeBron paycut (seems unlikely) it seems to me like the Lakers aren't gonna be able to get a C and a 3&D PoA guy without trading Reaves as they lack the assets.
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